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Xbox DVD Firmware Hacked

Yes! I've just played a backup DVD on a XBOX 1 without any modchip/softmod, just a hacked firmware :-) This completes our work on the XBOX 1. The drive I modded was a 8050L. The good news is that the firmware in this drive is very similar to the firmware in the GDR3120, used in the XBOX 360. I think it's time for me to buy one now :-)
Thanks to all the contributors in the firmware hacking thread!


This hacked firmware will fake the disc detection (will trick drive to detect disc as DVDXBOX media), the xbe must still be signed though (for DVDXBOX media), so this hack will not allow to run homebrew stuff, atleast not directly (if there are possible font or other exploit in retail games, this could be used as alternative to game save exploits to install a dashboard exploit for example).
The hacked firmware (for the H-L 8050L drive) will boot any MS-signed xbox executables (xbe) with DVDXBOX mediaflag and with correct regionflag (in case it's region locked) from recordable media.
The 8050L is the Hitachi-LG DVD drive found in newer Xboxes



lol
 
The big question is will this allow me to play them on Live or is it still going to get me Banned.

My Virgin Xbox dont want no mod chip yet :lol

EDIT: And Wario64 link please :P
 
metdroid said:
And if you dont you suck.
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I don't have one because I have no interest in piracy (don't tell me you use it for emus or divx, because that's piracy in 99,9% of the cases aswell).

Region Locking sucks, but that's the reason why I have an American and a PAL version of each console.
 
johnjohnson said:
I don't have one because I have no interest in piracy (don't tell me you use it for emus or divx, because that's piracy in 99,9% of the cases aswell).
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So, basically, you don't know jack and you're making up libelous assumptions defending your choice...

Region Locking sucks, but that's the reason why I have an American and a PAL version of each console.
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Well, whoop de doo. Sorry, but that's what most people would rather not do, as that has way more negatives than positives. Many people might even lower their perception of you for doing so...
 
johnjohnson said:
I don't have one because I have no interest in piracy (don't tell me you use it for emus or divx, because that's piracy in 99,9% of the cases aswell).

Region Locking sucks, but that's the reason why I have an American and a PAL version of each console.
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You don't have ot use it for piracy, you can use it to safeguard your legit games, run them off HDD and make them load faster, preserving your discs in the long run. (Play Advent Rising!)

If people use their PS2s for this reason, why can't Xbox owners do it too?

I also use mine to watch the UK shows I normally cant see in Americas, I also rip legit DVDs (yes legit, want me to PROVE IT FUCKERS) onto there to again -- preserve them. Also with modded Xbox I think you can upscale or whatever to 720p now? So it's like a cheap(er) DVD player now? I dunno, I just run them off the HDD.

Emulators and Piracy are just a quirk, you can use it for a Media Center, similar to X360 -- only oodles and oodles better.
 
demi said:
Emulators and Piracy are just a quirk, you can use it for a Media Center, similar to X360 -- only oodles and oodles better.
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Thats what I want to use mine for but dont want to give up the Live Functionality yet...
 
The Abominable Snowman said:
So, basically, you don't know jack and you're making up libelous assumptions defending your choice...
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Prove me I'm wrong. But I don't think you can.

demi said:
(Play Advent Rising!)
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Already did.

demi said:
I also rip legit DVDs (yes legit, want me to PROVE IT FUCKERS) onto there to again -- preserve them.
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That's one of the things I really don't understand. Why should I rip a DVD to preserve it (no dvd ever failed on me) and watch it in lower quality, when I can just watch it directly from the DVD as it was meant to be?
 
Maybe I said the wrong word.

I also said you can run the regular DVD on the Xbox...

Having it on the HDD just saves you the trouble.

It's your choice though, I don't want to force my opinion on you
 
johnjohnson said:
Prove me I'm wrong. But I don't think you can.
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You also cannot prove yourself right. In fact, there is better proof as to prove you wrong than there is to prove you right.

Check the biggest torrent sites

Torrentspy
Mininova
Xbox-torrentz

all the Xbox torrent sites, and add up the 3, no, 5 most downloaded ISO torrents.

Now compare them to the XBMC downloads

Compare them to the amount of modchips and softmods out there

Compare them to the amount of downloads on Xbenz (Spelling altered)

ISOs and whatnot are just the teeniest little fraction of it, and you cannot prove anything further about MP3s/roms either, as you do not know who owns what. It seems, at least to me, that you made up something to feel better about your decision, or try to cast shame upon others who feel differently from you.
 
Oh come on now. You're really saying that the majority of mod chip owners don't use them for game piracy but for fancy multimedia stuff? Sorry, but you can't be serious. Maybe it's not a 99,9%, but 99% for sure.
 
That can be said for all things, especially PC users really
It's all basically an honor system
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An honor system where the vast majority of people using it have no honor. It's fine to say that you personally don't pirate, but the vast majority of mod chip fans do pirate, whether it is new games, roms or movies doesn't matter, it is piracy.
 
There is no point in arguing for/agaist modchips/piracy, it's a necessary evil, it will always be there. As with any commodity, there will always be a black market for it.

I suspect a large number of people on this very board are involved in piracy at some level, wether it's a dumped Xbox game, or a dodgy copy of Microsoft Word. It's an unspoken truth, and this is a place where admiting such information will get you a kick out the door.

I have a modded Xbox, and while I won't admit to running copied games on it, I use my Xbox for everything it was never intended for far far more than what it was. I don't feel bad about using such programs such as XBMC, I feel no twang of guilt. I own the hardware, and the software is in a legal grey area (open source, compiled illegaly), which is far as I'm concerned, is red tape I'm prepared to break.

Really, it comes down to what lines you are prepared to cross.
 
Well, I don't have a modded Xbox either. That's probably because I barely touch the thing, except to play the odd game that comes out for it that I want.

I really haven't touched my Xbox at all since I picked up my 360, but stranger things have happened.
 
johnjohnson said:
I don't have one because I have no interest in piracy (don't tell me you use it for emus or divx, because that's piracy in 99,9% of the cases aswell).
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STFU. People mod their shit for XBMC more than anything else.
 
wow, talk about derailed...

i don't know if you guys noticed, but the dvdrom firmware is what tells the console if games are on dvd+/-r or xboxdvd...

this is huge as signed xbes on dvdr will run as if they were retail games...

and if what the guy says about the 360 firmware code being similar is true, that's doom and gloom in the express lane!
 
This is pretty much the future of such things right here. A group also released a modchip for the gamecube that you solder to the actual gc drive's pcb, and it allows you to run backups, imports, without interfering with the rest of the system. I guess that this will make modified consoles actually undetectable and this will lead to problems on things like xbox live. I wouldnt be surprised if this kind of method is gonna be used for the x360 and future consoles :(
 
"I don't have one because I have no interest in piracy (don't tell me you use it for emus or divx, because that's piracy in 99,9% of the cases aswell).

Region Locking sucks, but that's the reason why I have an American and a PAL version of each console."


What does what other people do with it have to do with what you choose to do with it?
 
I guess that this will make modified consoles actually undetectable and this will lead to problems on things like xbox live.
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Actually this isn't a big a problem for Xbox Live as one might think. They still wont be able to alter the actual code itself. All it can do is run the exact game code that was on the disc.

This will be useless for people wanting XBMC and emulators. The code still must be signed. You won't be able to use it to run items off your hard drive. The only real reason for this hack is either "backups", or piracy.
 
zabuni said:
Actually this isn't a big a problem for Xbox Live as one might think. They still wont be able to alter the actual code itself. All it can do is run the exact game code that was on the disc.

This will be useless for people wanting XBMC and emulators. The code still must be signed. You won't be able to use it to run items off your hard drive. The only real reason for this hack is either "backups", or piracy.
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It's possible a softmod could come out of this - I believe only the executables are signed, so if someone monkeys with the data files on a game in such a way that it takes control of the machine, hacking the firmware on the DVD drive would be a way to get a disc like that to boot.

I remember hearing about all kinds of crazy stuff built into the 360 to prevent similar exploits, but apparently MS is worried about it enough to disable that kiosk disc in the latest firmware (it was signed to be bootable from DVD-R media, and people started playing with the data files)...
 
conker said:
modchips are for piracy.
case closed.
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For most of the users they are.
But not for everyone.

So i guess is really silly to express numbers.

Most mod chips are used for illegal copies,
but not everyone does it.
 
The Abominable Snowman said:
all the Xbox torrent sites, and add up the 3, no, 5 most downloaded ISO torrents.

Now compare them to the XBMC downloads
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New games get released every day. XBMC gets released maybe once or twice a month, and doesn't really need to be upgraded by normal users. What made you think this was even a remotely fair method of comparison?
 
johnjohnson said:
Oh come on now. You're really saying that the majority of mod chip owners don't use them for game piracy but for fancy multimedia stuff? Sorry, but you can't be serious. Maybe it's not a 99,9%, but 99% for sure.
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You're retarded and very narrow minded :lol

I use my Xbox to watch anime off it as it's networked with my computers. It's not illegal either.

I at first wanted to play burned games on it too, but stopped caring like a week after I got it. Now it's just anime and trying to get friggin' StepmaniaX working :lol
 
johnjohnson said:
I don't have one because I have no interest in piracy (don't tell me you use it for emus or divx, because that's piracy in 99,9% of the cases aswell).

Region Locking sucks, but that's the reason why I have an American and a PAL version of each console.
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Are there any emus that actually run well, that are for anything but dead systems?
 
XBMC with SMB is the shiz, i use my modded xbox for 90% xbmc to watch about 90% more or less legally anime fansubs and us tv shows (which arent broadcasted over here in Germany) and 10% illegally downloaded pr0n.
 
Are there any emus that actually run well, that are for anything but dead systems?
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GBA? Besides, piracy of games on a dead system is still piracy, if you worry about that stuff.
 
border said:
New games get released every day. XBMC gets released maybe once or twice a month, and doesn't really need to be upgraded by normal users. What made you think this was even a remotely fair method of comparison?
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XBMC has nightly builds almost every night...

They have 'stable' releases about 2-3 times a month
 
Most people don't even update the freaking official XBMC releases, much less daily builds. I haven't touched my XBMC install since October at least. Comparing the downloads of a single media player release with that of every game on the system doesn't make any sense. ....at least not if you're looking to get an idea of what people are using most.
 
johnjohnson said:
I don't have one because I have no interest in piracy (don't tell me you use it for emus or divx, because that's piracy in 99,9% of the cases aswell).

Region Locking sucks, but that's the reason why I have an American and a PAL version of each console.
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Piracy may be the motivation for modding one, but once a person experiences XBMC they rarely use an Xbox for games AGAIN.
 
The Abominable Snowman said:
So, basically, you don't know jack and you're making up libelous assumptions defending your choice...
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No. He is correct. This is just like the people who defend P2P applications because there are legal uses for them but 99.99% of the time it is used for piracy. Anyway, I have a modded Xbox and play emus all the time. I have the original Xbox hard drive.
 
demi said:
You don't have ot use it for piracy, you can use it to safeguard your legit games, run them off HDD and make them load faster, preserving your discs in the long run. (Play Advent Rising!)

If people use their PS2s for this reason, why can't Xbox owners do it too?
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This is a stupid scenario. Who in their right mind is going to keep their disks if they don't need them anymore? Your scenario does not happen in the real world. Only the most hardcore of geeks who care about having their precious disk that makes them feel funny inside would keep the disk. I'd trade it for $40 credit and so would 99% of people.

And XBMC sucks. I don't care what anybody says. This is like Linux geeks thinking that their half asses Linux desktop programs rival those found on Windows.
 
Tain said:
GBA? Besides, piracy of games on a dead system is still piracy, if you worry about that stuff.
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I have a rather large collection of old games. Most (95% or greater) of the old games I emulate on my Xbox are games that I own. It allows me a great amount of convenience in playing the games I have purchased legally. There is less clutter in the living room, I don't have to go pull the carts from the shelf, and I can upsample them to 1080i so that they don't look horrible on my HDTV.
 
Last Hope said:
This is a stupid scenario. Who in their right mind is going to keep their disks if they don't need them anymore? Your scenario does not happen in the real world.
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Every hear of a 50 disc CD player? Ever hear of an iPod? Maybe no one has thrown a disc changer ot iPod in your dumper yet.

Having every game avaliable at the push of a button is something every console maker should invest in.

Last Hope said:
And XBMC sucks. I don't care what anybody says.
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Give use five reasons on why it 'sucks'. You can use the terms 'sucks' and 'blows' only once.

Last Hope said:
This is like Linux geeks thinking that their half asses Linux desktop programs rival those found on Windows.
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No, this is more like some dumbass trying to justify getting ripped off from buying a new O/S that only does a fraction of what XMBC can do.
 
Last Hope said:
This is a stupid scenario. Who in their right mind is going to keep their disks if they don't need them anymore? Your scenario does not happen in the real world. Only the most hardcore of geeks who care about having their precious disk that makes them feel funny inside would keep the disk. I'd trade it for $40 credit and so would 99% of people.

And XBMC sucks. I don't care what anybody says. This is like Linux geeks thinking that their half asses Linux desktop programs rival those found on Windows.
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i actually had a serious reply typed up here, then i realized i was just wasting my time feedling the troll...
 
DaCocoBrova said:
:lol
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Unless the modders have figured out how to speed up the Xbox CPU, it sucks. It can barely even play a lot of DIVX/Xvid in real time because the CPU is too damn slow to decode the video. Forget about fast fowarding it or rewinding because the player will just choke and freeze up on you. When it finally comes to, you will not be anywhere near where you wanted to be. And have they fixed the damn trigger buttons yet? Are they still so sensitive that when I put the controller down, it will register as a press and start fast fowarding? I really gave up on XBMC a long time ago. My PC and my nice 20" LCD is better for watching video on anyway.

And to clarify becaise I was misunderstood by so many, XBMC does not suck but rather the platform it is running on does. The CPU in the Xbox is just too slow to make XBMC an enjoyable media center. But if they have not fixed the sensitivity on the triggers, then that is certainly one aspect of XBMC that does suck and should have been fixed years ago.
 
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