Xbox One: Details on Connectivity, Licensing (24 hour check-in) and Privacy Features
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Remember this particular line of bollocks from EA:
Really? How do you think 'players will respond' to it on a whole title basis? Will you be 'listening to the feedback' then?
The first time they pull this pre owned tax on the Xbone, the gaming media has to be all over them.
Really? How do you think 'players will respond' to it on a whole title basis? Will you be 'listening to the feedback' then?
The first time they pull this pre owned tax on the Xbone, the gaming media has to be all over them.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
About as odd as the KINECT ALWAYS WATCHING YOU
oOOoooOooO Conspiracy...
It sucks being a "fanboy", i guess. I want to like this console, I want gaming to move forward, I want Gamestop to fuck off... But until PS4 comes out with their policies i'm questioning myself.
Lol
Don't make me dig into my post history. I've been accused of being an Xbot on GAF since 2001. Well, until it started to look like MS was dropping the ball on Xbone, at least. I even defended Kinect. Eww.
And why do you want to like it? You haven't even bought it yet. Who cares?
Like something because it's likeable, not because of self-hypnosis.
But, but.. but!
So I've been reading all the fallout over the last couple of weeks and am so glad I'm a PC gamer.
I reckon I could almost live with the draconian rules surrounding used/lent games but the killer for me is always on internet for the unit and always on Kinect.
Actually scratch that first part of the sentence above. As a PC gamer using Steam I can't lend games or buy used games but the fact is games are less than half the price of console games so it's not a problem to drop some cash on a game I might not like.
And Steam isn't the only place for games, I can still find physical second hand games
There is just no need for it.
I reckon I could almost live with the draconian rules surrounding used/lent games but the killer for me is always on internet for the unit and always on Kinect.
Actually scratch that first part of the sentence above. As a PC gamer using Steam I can't lend games or buy used games but the fact is games are less than half the price of console games so it's not a problem to drop some cash on a game I might not like.
And Steam isn't the only place for games, I can still find physical second hand games
There is just no need for it.
I'm a big fan of the Xbox but I just don't think I can buy into this... If the PS4 is the same then I'll just have to use the Wii U as my primary console & stick to the PC.
My household internet goes down all the time & sometimes for more than 24 hours. My connection wont be impoved until I move homes (which isnt going to happen anytime soon).
My household internet goes down all the time & sometimes for more than 24 hours. My connection wont be impoved until I move homes (which isnt going to happen anytime soon).
amstradcpc
Member
Will be interesting to compare pricing with PC gaming vs console gaming this new generation with its game prices, online fees, rental blocks etc.
It's already obvious that the new consoles are still incredibly behind PC. With all the new restrictions it makes me reconsider if PC isn't really the way to go forthright
It's already obvious that the new consoles are still incredibly behind PC. With all the new restrictions it makes me reconsider if PC isn't really the way to go forthright
A junior that gets it. They aren't all bad. ;-)
This is the best solution, but sadly the masses will still support MS and Sony(if they go full DRM) regardless and they'll continue to take our consumer rights and the mass majority will just be okay with it.
Which isn't okay AT ALL.
No. There is not some anti Microsoft agenda here. Simply people voicing their concerns over anti consumer practices. I'm quite certain if Sony did the same, we'd have as much disappointment with their policies.
Probably more because they have already mentioned a few things that suggest the opposite.
Just read the OP and wow.
So if I give a game to my friend (who has been in my list for 30 days), once they activate the game on their console it can't be moved anymore? What if I would like that game back?
How big is this console? So on Monday, people at work are going to be exchanging consoles instead of games to avoid this. Hilarious.
Unless I misinterpreted and the "loaning" party can get the game back.
And families have library access? What is the verification process for family? If it's found I gave access to a non-family member (or an in-law, or a cousin with a different surname) do I get banned and lose all my games?
If I'm banned, can the console still do the 24h check-in?
See, I don't want to be asking these questions. If I have a console and a disc, the disc should play in the console. Now I gotta have piles of discs. This is the family pile, the friends pile, the used pile, the bought new pile.
Yeesh.
Sorry if this has been answered but I just got up and this thread is too massive and fast.
So if I give a game to my friend (who has been in my list for 30 days), once they activate the game on their console it can't be moved anymore? What if I would like that game back?
How big is this console? So on Monday, people at work are going to be exchanging consoles instead of games to avoid this. Hilarious.
Unless I misinterpreted and the "loaning" party can get the game back.
And families have library access? What is the verification process for family? If it's found I gave access to a non-family member (or an in-law, or a cousin with a different surname) do I get banned and lose all my games?
If I'm banned, can the console still do the 24h check-in?
See, I don't want to be asking these questions. If I have a console and a disc, the disc should play in the console. Now I gotta have piles of discs. This is the family pile, the friends pile, the used pile, the bought new pile.
Yeesh.
Sorry if this has been answered but I just got up and this thread is too massive and fast.
bigbaldwolf86
Banned
I'm hoping that they will come and restrict the rest of my life as well.
Come and get me Microsoft! My mind and body are ready!
graywolf323
Member
why would EA be rewarding Microsoft with exclusives if Sony was doing it too?
So that's it, I'm done with Microsoft consoles. It's gonna be PS4 for me, unless they go a similar route. In that case, I'll save up money for a gaming PC. This 2009 xkcd comic more or less describes my philosophy on gaming:
http://xkcd.com/606/
(And I actually am playing Portal for the first time this summer, lol.)
I've been buying one or two new games a year, otherwise it's all older used games on the cheap. So this DRM thing affects me big time - but not for a few years. In the meantime, I have an extensive backlog of games from this gen to play. It doesn't stem my outrage or concern, though. This is gonna end up hitting me where it hurts - in the wallet. I simply cannot afford this hobby if I have to buy all my games new.
http://xkcd.com/606/
(And I actually am playing Portal for the first time this summer, lol.)
I've been buying one or two new games a year, otherwise it's all older used games on the cheap. So this DRM thing affects me big time - but not for a few years. In the meantime, I have an extensive backlog of games from this gen to play. It doesn't stem my outrage or concern, though. This is gonna end up hitting me where it hurts - in the wallet. I simply cannot afford this hobby if I have to buy all my games new.
milkham
Member
:lol
Bish, plz, press the big shiny red button!
That's an amazing gif.
I wonder if it would be unethical for the mods to just lay it all out for us, or point the way for some intrepid journalist willing to piss a whole bunch of people off.
No dependence on having discs.
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Wow. I always though all that talk about viral marketers infiltrating this place was paranoia, but this is pretty special.
If its like this here I'd hate to see how it is on the Reddit gaming sub. That place was already a hotbed of marketing employees, and it seems they're going all out on damage control here.
Messypandas
Member
This news ensured I will never buy another Xbox related product.
Sapphire Dreams
Member
Just read the OP and holy shit wow this awful.
You've just eliminated many sales on your part Microsoft, that's just wow. You've put the convenience of your partners over the convenience of your consumers, that's awful.
I just hope Sony won't do it too.
You've just eliminated many sales on your part Microsoft, that's just wow. You've put the convenience of your partners over the convenience of your consumers, that's awful.
I just hope Sony won't do it too.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Pretty much not, unless you count the virals. (several of them confirmed)
scytherage
Member
I just hope all this negative hype actually does something. I think the problem will be if everything is business as usual when Microsoft launches and gamers still buy their console anyway.
Unless we see some kind of crazy revolution where the system is literally boycotted, I don't think MS is going to change their minds.
..either that OR Sony has some completely insane exclusive sitting in the back which will compel every gamer to just forget about Microsoft and switch sides.
The drama, man, this is one crazy E3.
Unless we see some kind of crazy revolution where the system is literally boycotted, I don't think MS is going to change their minds.
..either that OR Sony has some completely insane exclusive sitting in the back which will compel every gamer to just forget about Microsoft and switch sides.
The drama, man, this is one crazy E3.
I'd go with the latter.
amstradcpc
Member
VEX only.
Arjen
Member
Summary?
Microsoft wants to fuck people in the ass.
Most of us say, "no thanks. fuck off."
Some, "Sure, here's the lube"
Green Yoshi
Member
IdiotMyshkin
Banned
Oh and don't forget to fuck the servicemen, and anyone in a rural area....not like those hicks drink beer and play madden all day or anything...
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
My friend hasn't got the internet. What do I tell him?
- Xbox One funeral party
- Tons of juniors banned over being viral marketers (and this paid wave still didn't stop yet)
- BenKuchera is a dick
- Kaz and rest of Sony probably now dancing naked.
Killing_Joke
Member
The trolls and shills are sickening. How can anyone defend this?
- Online check ins
- Can't borrow games
- Can't rent games
- You can ONLY share and play on 10 other consoles using your account. Yeah, because MS will TOTALLY let you and your buddies take advantage that. lol
- Can only trade in your games at certain stores..........Only if crazy nice companies like EA and Ubisoft let you. L..O...L
People happy for no fees...there's no fees because you can't fucking do anything! The rumor before was if you let your buddy borrow the game to play on his account there will be a fee... Well now you can't borrow at all! Yeah, sounds great.
So MS, keep your console, keep your moneyhats, exclusive DLC, your experiences, and all your timed exclusives. I will not buy the X1 ever unless they drop these restrictions. Honestly hope and pray it flops hard. The gaming industry does NOT need to go into this direction.
- Online check ins
- Can't borrow games
- Can't rent games
- You can ONLY share and play on 10 other consoles using your account. Yeah, because MS will TOTALLY let you and your buddies take advantage that. lol
- Can only trade in your games at certain stores..........Only if crazy nice companies like EA and Ubisoft let you. L..O...L
People happy for no fees...there's no fees because you can't fucking do anything! The rumor before was if you let your buddy borrow the game to play on his account there will be a fee... Well now you can't borrow at all! Yeah, sounds great.
So MS, keep your console, keep your moneyhats, exclusive DLC, your experiences, and all your timed exclusives. I will not buy the X1 ever unless they drop these restrictions. Honestly hope and pray it flops hard. The gaming industry does NOT need to go into this direction.
Sidewinder
Member
Buy digital only then, no need to castrate discs for that.
Does Xbox Live Gold still count as a fee?
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
is there a reason yoy blurred your avatrar
I love this quote from time magazine http://techland.time.com/2013/06/06/microsofts-xbox-one-access-requirements-create-an-odd-double-standard/#ixzz2VW5ODxx5
He's your friend not mine. Think of your own conversation starters.
How do you feel about buying Steam games on discs in retail?
Wickerbasket
Member
Dude, you can't just ask that outright.
Although, I've been thinking, if there's Sony shills amongst the new juniors, they're doing a much better job at hiding than the MS ones.