I H8 Memes
Member
If they were doing it as part of prism that certainly wouldn't tell anyone about it. That would be illegal and they would go to jail.
And as I edited in to my post, the Xbox One includes Skype which is already part of the program.
Xbox One: Details on Connectivity, Licensing (24 hour check-in) and Privacy Features
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If they were doing it as part of prism that certainly wouldn't tell anyone about it. That would be illegal and they would go to jail.
And as I edited in to my post, the Xbox One includes Skype which is already part of the program.
SkoomaSuckinSwit
Member
Hmm...I wonder what the Xbox One's screen message will look like, when that 24-hour offline time limit is met. Gonna be an instant meme, like the RROD.
Maybe we can think up a good XBONED OFFLINE screen pic for them...
Maybe we can think up a good XBONED OFFLINE screen pic for them...
casinoman921
Member
I'm worried Sony will have something similar to this. If third parties decided to lock out used games on the Xbox One, they would have to do it on PS4, too.
Pretty much guaranteed if the PS4 eclipses the Xbox One in sales. My lack of faith in the general public tells me the XB1 will sell gangbusters though
Opus Angelorum
Member
Thanks, always interesting to see that people don't have internet access in places. I take it for granted I guess.
RobbieNick
Junior Member
Oh, good point. I feel like Amazon Digital though has been trying to become a premier store, I just don't feel like Microsoft be as frequent.
freenudemacusers
Member
by then we will have our apple xbox one hundred to play with
Hiding it? I always assumed everything stored in servers was inherently unsafe, and able to be accessed by government agencies. Why do you think there was the commotion before about MS potentially storing Skype messages on their servers?
But this is different. Microsoft is saying that the data from the Kinect is not being uploaded to the server, and I don't see why that would be untrue.
But PRISM is about accessing data that Microsoft already collects, not collecting data specifically for the purpose of PRISM.
Skype's privacy policy tells you that they store some of your data on servers. That's not the case with Kinect data, where they're saying the opposite.
NullPointer
Member
Look what happened to original Xbox games.
MS has mentioned supporting the 360 for what, another 5 years?
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
It's already a meme. There was a great gif of the famous Daigo vs Justin SFIII match being interrupted right in the middle of that insane parry barrage.
Pft, I doubt they will support it for 10, let alone 50.
Except there is only on transfer
for you.. Once the retailer has it back im sure they'll have the ability to 'reset' the game for the next chap.
Randolph Freelander
Member
I'll be surprised if 360 games can still be played online in a few years.
And if that gets turned off, you know the writing is on the wall for One games.
Yeah. I'm not a gold subscriber, I only occasionally play SP games on 360, it's never online. The ps3 is on and off, depending on whether I actually do need a connection to do what I want/need to do (download stuff, play MP, etc).
Treechopper
Member
I read this in Aziz Ansari's voice and it got funny fast.
When I was at uni, we were restricted on what we could link to the internet. if we wanted to connect a laptop to it for example, it'd send us to a intranet page where we could enter in details to log in. Consoles and other devices were automatically blocked by this system.
so yeah. We had internet - the best internet in the entire fucking country to be precise. And the Xbone still wouldn't work on it. Absolutely insane.
Mr. Enigma
Member
The comment outrage on Major Nelson's blog is hilarious. That guy has to be hating his life right now.
Yes. I haven't connected my 360 in 2 months. I completed both Tomb Raider and Bioshock: Infinite without ever connecting the 360 to the internet.
Why is it so hard to believe?
Hmm some of the conditions on the xbone sound like its gonna be really hard to use if you actually turn of your appliances ( with a socket switch).
But the fact that you never need a disc and can play your games at any console sounds cool. Wonder how smart that feature is though. games will probably be around 10gb and if you have progressed a bit it could lead to the fact that you need to download 5gb or so before you can continue your game?
Still switching camp though, my psvita sealed that deal..
But the fact that you never need a disc and can play your games at any console sounds cool. Wonder how smart that feature is though. games will probably be around 10gb and if you have progressed a bit it could lead to the fact that you need to download 5gb or so before you can continue your game?
Still switching camp though, my psvita sealed that deal..
And what if I don't want to trade it in to the retailer Microsoft has chosen? What if I want to sell it on eBay or sell it privately?
oh, I can't. That's going to go down well with the EU.
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>No renting, no loaning. No private sales (unless selling to someone who has been on your >friends list for 30 days)
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>Console Checks in Every 24 hours
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>Trade-ins are up to the publisher and only at participating retailers
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>You can give a game to a friend only if they have been on your friends list for 30 days, and >then it is stuck with them.
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>Up to 10 family members can play your games from any console at any time
I actually (right today prior to this revelation) want an Xbox One over a PS4. That's saying a lot considering I've owned every playstation since launch. Turning on my xbox and skyping with friends without using a controller is very appealing.
I'm concerned about renting, loaning, and private sales in addition to trade-ins. If we apply this logic to current gen then this seems even more ridiculous. Imagine purchasing Madden for PS3 at launch and having these rules attached. There would've been hell to pay.
I don't want to overreact because Microsoft hasn't spoken on these issues in-depth. They have a lot of explaining to do. I hope Sony learns from this and doesn't implement the same policies.
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>No renting, no loaning. No private sales (unless selling to someone who has been on your >friends list for 30 days)
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>Console Checks in Every 24 hours
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>Trade-ins are up to the publisher and only at participating retailers
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>You can give a game to a friend only if they have been on your friends list for 30 days, and >then it is stuck with them.
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>Up to 10 family members can play your games from any console at any time
I actually (right today prior to this revelation) want an Xbox One over a PS4. That's saying a lot considering I've owned every playstation since launch. Turning on my xbox and skyping with friends without using a controller is very appealing.
I'm concerned about renting, loaning, and private sales in addition to trade-ins. If we apply this logic to current gen then this seems even more ridiculous. Imagine purchasing Madden for PS3 at launch and having these rules attached. There would've been hell to pay.
I don't want to overreact because Microsoft hasn't spoken on these issues in-depth. They have a lot of explaining to do. I hope Sony learns from this and doesn't implement the same policies.
E3 is not the type of thing you can really "boycott". It's for game journalist and industry professionals who need to be there to cover the junket as their job. Even if half of the people there agreed with you, they'd still have to cover it. You know, because...jobs.
I will love it, absolutely love it, if EA refuses to allow trade in on previous year's Madden games.
Boy, won't the casual "TV!, SPORTS!" gamer be in for a rude awakening when Madden 2015 comes out and they find they are stuck with Madden 2014. And oh no, there go the server shutdowns....
Money well spent.
Boy, won't the casual "TV!, SPORTS!" gamer be in for a rude awakening when Madden 2015 comes out and they find they are stuck with Madden 2014. And oh no, there go the server shutdowns....
Money well spent.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
My Xbox is often hooked up to one of the monitors at various public venues that run local fighting game tournaments. For much of the rest of the week, it's often in my car or a box because I don't always feel like going to the trouble of hooking it back up to my home setup only to tear it down again next weekend.
My entire circle of friends that meet up for these events are pretty much writing off the Xbone altogether.
Haha.
Hmmm, now I wonder if they haven't just provisioned all of this cloud computing to ensure they have a decent authentication system for all these 24hr check ins. Probably just a tangential or peripheral 'bonus' to the cloud.
oh crap... they should have made a deal before today... wow
I've only ever connected my Xbox 360 and PS3 to the internet when I needed to download an update or make a purchase. I don't play multiplayer games.
You mean the implication that you haven't been paying attention for the past few months? This question has been asked and answered many times over ever since the rumors started about the XBO DRM/Online requirements.
Eh, I was expecting worse. The rumor was $35 reactivation fee, so at least there's that.
Jake Tower
Banned
I just did that laugh that turns into sobs.
IdiotMyshkin
Banned
Is this real life?
Oh hey, shouldn't they give Adam Orth his job back now?
Oh hey, shouldn't they give Adam Orth his job back now?
shanshan310
Member
It really is. This is going to be a huge pain in the butt presumably for a whole heap of different consumer groups.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
The console industry does not need this hunk of shit. Hope it does not become an industry standard. Nintendo and Sony I believe in you.
BumbleBee Castle
Member
The sad thing is M$ knew the level of hate they would incite from this nonsense.
Why else would they cancel their post conference Q&A session other than to scurry off the stage before the inevitable onslaught by the gaming press?
Why else would they cancel their post conference Q&A session other than to scurry off the stage before the inevitable onslaught by the gaming press?
Didn't think about it but damn the yearly sport trade in crowd is fucked.
Randolph Freelander
Member
Not likely.
"Deal with it" and "who wants to live there?" are not appropriate ways to introduce customers to your policies, particularly a month before Microsoft is ready to vaguely address those policies.
exactly there is lots of data being collected on the web about all of us but the Kinect is not one of those places... that just needs to be put to bed...
NullPointer
Member
Burn the god damn ship down, scatter the ashes and then get to work building a next gen games console.
Lynd7
Member
A couple of year ago when I was renting in Sydney I did not have my 360 connected. When I took it home every now and then I would update and download a couple of things. If that had been the One I wouldn't have been able to use anything.
For me good games aren't enough to sway me on this. I'm afraid many will fold and buy in once enough games come out though sadly. I hope these problems gain a lot of steam in the mainstream, although I doubt many will see the implications right away or even care.
For me good games aren't enough to sway me on this. I'm afraid many will fold and buy in once enough games come out though sadly. I hope these problems gain a lot of steam in the mainstream, although I doubt many will see the implications right away or even care.
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
I had 0 intentions on buying an xbone, but I'm slightly concerned sony will follow suit (or at least 3rd party pubs will make their games use these restrictions).
This is gonna be the 1st e3 where instead of being excited about the games, I'm nervous about how I'll be negatively impacted. Makes me even happier I bought a Wii U last week.
This is gonna be the 1st e3 where instead of being excited about the games, I'm nervous about how I'll be negatively impacted. Makes me even happier I bought a Wii U last week.
OmnipotentO
Member
Me. I don't currently have mine connected. Recently moved and I mostly play local UMVC3 anyway. Find really no need. Just turn it on, grab the arcade sticks and go. No outside world, no distractions, no nothing. Just me and my little bro enjoying our Mahvel by ourselves for hours on end. I love it. The feel to be connected doesn't even cross my mind.
I'd think the backlash on May 21st woulda made them rethink. I just can't figure out how they thought gamers would take these restrictions. They can try and reword it all they want as it just makes them out of touch.
Their entire business model is built around cutting deeper into the market for selling new games, and getting a cut into the used game market. They're not going to change strategy at this point.