BigBadGiantHand
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Would someone please invite me to whatever I need to be apart of to into get the beta early? Would greatly appreciate it.
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Xbox One Preview Members get early access to the Halo 5: Guardians Multiplayer Beta
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Dylan Sexbang
Banned
A working Multi-player was also part of the MCC package, we have yet to get that properly. They should've just given MCC free and two weeks early to the preview program folks if they're that worried about giving us something that had to be properly tested.
And it's not entitlement to the people screaming entitlement. It's selling is the game, the game not working 100%, taking forever to get it somewhat functioning, and then giving a sample of our included beta to a whole other user base.
It's not entitlement, it's not even anger. At this point it is just frustration. It's been frustration for over a month now. For some, it's been frustration since Halo 4.
A.D. Skinner
Member
Not at all. They're still going to get the beta they expected at the time they were told they would.
bananafactory
Banned
Isn't the point of a beta itself to test the game? I don't think anyone expects a beta to be problem free.
Yeah but why not select a few MCC users and let them try it instead of Preview members. Or make it preview members who also have MCC only. There is a ton of ways they could have gotten early testing without ignoring the people who bought and put up with a broken game.
RowdyReverb
Member
Nah, it just feels good to get mad. I owned MCC since day one and I ain't mad.
Betas nowadays is a feature of a game rather than to test something. This "alpha" is the new beta, lol.
Steverulez
Member
You know you're still getting the beta as advertised on the 29th for 3 weeks or whatever right?
Nothing has changed, closed betas to a small group aren't new.
The issues MCC has are separate to this and I'm sure they are waiting until that is fully fixed (if it happens...) to offer some sort of compensation.
TheShocker
Member
The preview program for XBL? Or the preview program known as MCC?
There are hundreds of thousands of MCC owners versus a relative handful of preview program participants. If you gave it out randomly to MCC owners, you'd have the exact same complaints from people upset they didn't get in
Giving something to preview members is not taking anything away from MCC owners. Frankly, as an MCC owner (which I am, as well as a preview participant), I would be disappointed if they tried to use a limited 1-weekend beta to "make things right"
Finally, the feedback/screenshot tool they are asking people to use is tied to the preview program
justsomeguy
Member
One last attempt to explain from me: Your suggestion is to do early testing of a beta which may need further tweaking, on a group of people already pissed off that mcc doesn't work, instead of to a group that already said "Hey yeah give us the broken stuff!"?
Can you see any flaw in that idea?
So why does it matter if it's taking anything away. Also I doubt people upset about preview members getting it would be upset if it went to a random selection of MCC owners instead. Also I doubt every single member of the press and Friends and family of 343 employees all have the preview program. Clearly they don't really need that feedback. Why not give MCC owners more value for all the shit that went on with the collection.
I doubt it would bother most people if the H5 beta has some bugs since you know its a beta. I am sure most people would just appreciate getting to try it out. Also I doubt most people with MCC are furious. Most are just upset or sad about all the trouble it has had.
justsomeguy
Member
Yes - but why go from "small handful of professional games testers" to "everyone who owns mcc" without anything in the middle? That's just bonkers and high risk. The group in the middle help ensure the beta works smoothly enough for the larger group.
Compsiox
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bananafactory
Banned
justsomeguy
Member
MCC owners who get a beta that works will be happy
Thursday War
Banned
That's just plain sad.
Dylan Sexbang
Banned
Yes we are, but it wouldn't be so bad to throw the MCC purchasers a small bone in letting them participate in this little sample. A small little "hey, sorry you had to put up with this, we're still working on MCC but here have a small taste of what's to come with the Halo 5 beta". While they get to stress the servers we get a preview to tide us over.
It is just rather frustrating, as I said, that we don't get access to this slight preview of the beta despite beta access being a part of MCC. Yes, we still get the one on the 29th, but this small sample should come with it considering beta access came with our purchase of MCC. And I have no faith in whatever 343i is planning for compensation, but that's for a different thread.
It's probably going to be some aesthetic option for Halo 5
that will later be paid DLC
Foolishfellow
Banned
I'm not shitting on anyone in the thread and I feel like I'm being completely reasonable. Those of us who purchased Halo MCC bought a fundamentally broken product. Now the Beta which is literally the only reason I haven't returned the MCC is going to be given to preview members this weekend, instead of the people who can't play more than a couple of matches of Halo MCC before getting the "failed to join session" error.
Additionally, Microsoft marketing a beta by releasing a trailer and continuing to market a game (with that stupid We Will Rock You trailer) that isn't anywhere remotely near stable. This Halo 5 beta is nothing more than another advertising scheme to get more people to buy the MCC.
I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but after all of the broken promises this company has made I am certainly not buying that they will be listening to community feedback regarding the Halo 5 beta. I'm certain the maps, modes, agilities available in the Halo 5 beta will be mostly similar to what we get in the final game. Again, this beta might help them work out some minor networking issues, but I just don't buy that they're going to change the game based on our feedback.
If the Halo community unanimously rejects sprint or the promethean guns or any of the other agilities I'm sure they'll still find there way into the final game. This "beta" is nothing more than an advertising gimmick to further promote MCC and a dying brand.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
The message in the beta Dashboard says to EXPECT bugs and issues, it is also asking us to use the BUG REPORT button to file these things. If people expecting a fully perfectly playable beta were to hop onto this, it'd be a shit storm. I think people in the preview program are more than suitable test subjects, since we will go in expecting issues. This will be our second game we're testing as far as I know and that's kind of a great precedent.
MCC owners who get a beta that works will be happy
Any reply? Do you understand why I think it would be appropriate to let owners of MCC get a chance to try this early stress test.
What about the Media and friends and family of 343 employees. Are they expecting a perfectly playable preview and do they all have the bug report button. Clearly this is a stress test for the main beta so why not just open to MCC users as a reward for putting up with the shit around that game.
Of course you would. Just as you're upset now that a small subset of MCC owners are getting access to it -- those that are in the preview program (in addition to those in the program that don't own MCC). You're really telling me that making it random would somehow change that even if you (and other people upset) didn't get in?
This is a gigantic leap. Because some people will not be providing feedback, they shouldn't collect any?
justsomeguy
Member
Yes I do but hopefully you see the other side of the coin too as to why however "appropriate" it might be through one lens, there's already a group that's far more appropriate in terms of getting useful feedback and the amount of support they'll need.
justsomeguy
Member
Tbh I doubt the feedback app is that important - this will be a network test I am sure, all info will be logged automatically.
TPFInferno
Member
I'd love to get an invite to the preview program. It'd be a nice gift for my college graduation tomorrow.
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Dylan Sexbang
Banned
It's a beta, there are going to be bugs and issues no matter what. Preview program are not more suitable, that's like saying no one was prepare for the Halo 3 beta having bugs when it came with Crackdown. Or Halo Reach having bugs when it came with ODST. Or Destiny having bugs when it came with the pre-order. And so on. All these were available to the general public, two of these were Halo games, and shit didn't hit the fan.
justsomeguy
Member
what was the first one?
It's not a leap it's a fact that they don't need to have the Preview program to give feedback or to run the game. This is for testing server performance with a larger number of people. They could easily open this up to others and still get as much feedback.
I understand but really all the mess surrounding MCC should have made them realize they can't treat it like normal. This looks bad because it seems like they are ignoring the people who bought MCC and rewarding other people. Why not offer a few slots to MCC owners or go all out and do a true stress test and let all MCC owners try it on the last day. I think they would get a ton of feedback that way.
Dylan Sexbang
Banned
Halo players have tested previous betas, they know what to expect. They've had Bungie.net which had plenty and plenty of good feedback options on their previous betas. Both previous betas were open to the public and functional, one is not more appropriate than the other.
Steverulez
Member
The point of this smaller test will be to test it in a small number - the preview group likely represents a number that its a good size to test things on and get decent feedback and we already have the screenshot tool they are asking us to use to give them the feedback.
If they wanted to test it in the significant numbers for which Halo MCC has - they would, they clearly don't require at this stage that number of participants for such a short test. The differences should be pretty obvious considering we're comparing what, a few thousand (at most)... vs hundreds of thousands if not over a million people.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
somethingsomethingsomething about living in parents basement, eating doritoes etc etc.. yeah, not insulting in the slightest and completely reasonable.
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I'm not sure what your hang-up is here.
"They're using it to advertise Halo"
Well, yeah. A Halo 5 beta isn't going to move Mario Kart.
I fully agree with the highlighted, because they have already said as much, in so many words. They said the base gameplay has been solidified for two years already and the game is coming out within a year, so it's not like they're going to redo the entire game and all of the maps that were built around this because of the feedback from a beta.
You are delusional if you thought they were going to rework the entire game based off of a beta.
Papasmurf531
Member
So yeah, if someone wants to give me a preview program code I would be eternally greatful!
I would give you an internet high-five, or not if you're not into those things...
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I would give you an internet high-five, or not if you're not into those things...
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Yeah, I can only imagine the shit 343 would get if the first day of the beta was fucked. People would be bitching about having paid for MCC in order to play the beta and it not working.
Conkerkid11
Member
That wouldn't be a problem if MCC weren't in alpha.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
You should all just join the preview program anyways so you don't miss out on stuff life this in the future. It's pretty stable for the most part and if the monthly builds have bugs, the preview gets fixes faster. Win/Win.
I've reported stuff here and there, but there hasn't been anything catastrophic.
Evolve alpha issues definitely had shit hit the fan a bit IIRC.
Drawing a blank here, I'm shot out. It was either Evolve or The Crew, all of my messages are deleted so I can't pinpoint. Probably Evolve.
I've reported stuff here and there, but there hasn't been anything catastrophic.
Evolve alpha issues definitely had shit hit the fan a bit IIRC.
Drawing a blank here, I'm shot out. It was either Evolve or The Crew, all of my messages are deleted so I can't pinpoint. Probably Evolve.
Absolutely. You think it is a coincidence that we are just now hearing about this? Pretty certain this wouldn't be happening if MCC weren't having issues.
Yes, just look at the Evolve beta thread and how many people are turned off by the game because the alpha was busted
Yes, everyone in the preview program got access to EA Access Beta and Evolve Alpha
Welfare
Member
Are you serious or /s?
Dylan Sexbang
Banned
It's a short test, and I just don't agree with 343i not giving it to MCC players. More players won't be the end of the world for it, Titanfall handled rather well, and so did the Destiny Alpha for only being 3 days or whatever it was. This is 343i's decision, I'll argue it til I'm blue in the face, I just feel it's a bunch of honkey that only preview members have access to this smaller test, some of which without MCC.
Evolve was just a bad game that was my issue with it. It took a few days, but once it was up and running properly it was up and running somewhat decently.