CherryFalls
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Maybe this game will finally be back., and people will understand its genius this time:
XboxEra Podcast claims select PS3 games will be native on PS5, no cloud streaming
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balls of snow
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Heavenly Sword, Mgs 4 and Infamous 2. Will buy them full price if I can play it offline on my ps5.
squidilix
Member
Who want to play GT5 and GT6? (6 is the worst GT)
There's some games staying on PS3.
- Siren
- Shadow of the Collosus (original)
- ICO
- Sly Cooper 4
- MotorStorm 1, 2 and 3
- Resistance 1, 2 and 3
- KillZone 2 and 3
- Drakengard 3
- Ratchet & Clank Tools of Destructio, A Crack in Time, Into the Nexus
- Puppeter
- Metal Gear Solid 4
- inFamous 1, 2
- Tales of Xillia, Xillia 2,
- Warhawk
- God of War Ascension
- Tokyo Jungle
- Socom 4
- Rain
- Katamari Forever
And some multisupport title like
- Grand Theft Auto 4
- Portal 2
- Elder Scrolls Oblivion
- Fallout 3
- Deus Ex: Human Revolution
- Dead Space 2
- Nier Gestalt
- Call of Duty (3, MW, WW, MW2, BO, MW3, BO2)
- Max Payne 3
- Dragon Age Origins
- Rayman Origins
- Raibow Six Vegas
- Final Fantasy XIII, XIII-2, Lightning Returns
- SoulCalibur 4, 5
- Tekken 6 and Tag 2
- Castlevania: Lords of Shadow
- Skate
And maybe many others
Of course, all this list never gonna happen, but at least, 50% will be very cool.
Badlucktroll
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Will Ps5 be able to brute force full SPE late stage Ps3 games? probably not, but will it be able to emulate smaller titles, early titles (think genji days of the blade and resistance) probably.
GeorgioCostanzaX
Member
It's kind of moot even if true because remasters would inevitably look better than emulation given Sony's poor track record of just releasing individual titles instead of opening up the store like MS formerly did. I'd be down for spiffed up Resistance, Motorstorm, MGS4, FFXIII, Ridge Racer 7 and Killzone.
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MAX PAYMENT
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Yes? Unless you can pop in your old ps1 disc's
Roufianos
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Ok, so a quick browse of this attention whore's recent claims reveals:
- Fans of 360 JRPGs should be hyped for the recent Xbox Showcase
- Starfield is going to PS5
- Final Fantasy coming to Fortnite
- Gears Collection releasing 2022
- 2021 - Sly and Infamous returning
- Microsoft had no plans to acquire Activision
- Jim Ryan vetoed Kojima's next game (pre DS2 announcement)
EviLore
at what point do we ban giving Shitshow Nick a thread every week.
- Fans of 360 JRPGs should be hyped for the recent Xbox Showcase
- Starfield is going to PS5
- Final Fantasy coming to Fortnite
- Gears Collection releasing 2022
- 2021 - Sly and Infamous returning
- Microsoft had no plans to acquire Activision
- Jim Ryan vetoed Kojima's next game (pre DS2 announcement)
EviLore
at what point do we ban giving Shitshow Nick a thread every week.
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Dr. Samuel Hayden
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Xboxera doesn't know anything.
Grubb claimed this was happening ages ago and there's still been no signs of it.
Yawn.
Grubb claimed this was happening ages ago and there's still been no signs of it.
Yawn.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Ah but we are moving goalposts now. The original claim was games already purchased and added to the PSN account which means digital titles.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
Moving goal posts? No.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
How much of this relates to old purchases working now or in the future?
They've been honoring digital purchases so far. Something that the PS4 classics program did not - so - it relates.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
Fair enough. Maybe they have the capacity to improve.
swaffles23
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Would be cool if some of the games multiplayer comes back as well. A lot of the games Platinum trophies are unobtainable now because of the servers shut down
ViciousAgenda
Member
This would be cool but I don't see it happening.
nial
Gold Member
They've been acknowledging their classic games quite a bit recently, if that means anything.
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TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Honestly?
It's probably the only reason they're bothering.
Which is blessing in disguise
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Yeah. They have been quite focused on nostalgia for a while now, as well as the future.
And even Playstation Productions have some plans for IPs such as Gravity Rush, Days Gone. Twisted Metal was a hit and season 2 is also on the way.
Madserb2023
Member
The PS6 will be able to absolutely brute force PS3 games even at 4k. The PS5 Pro made might also be able to but they won't have a situation where a feature like that would be locked to a mid-gen refresh. The best way forward for now would be to have native ports. Why they haven't released a Resistance Collection, Crack in Time, Killzone games is still mystery.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Coffinbirth: "if the games are tied to the PSN account (aka: you bought them digitally, that is how it works), will they charge for them again on PS5?"
You: "No doubt, they will charge again"
Me: "What? Why are you convinced they will not just let you play the game you have already tied to your account like they did for PSP and PS1 titles added to PSN Premium tier?"
You: "Nope, you cannot insert a PSP or PS1 disc in PS4/PS5 can you?"
Me: " We are talking about digital titles, do not move the goal posts…".
You (while caught carrying the goal posts): "Me?!? I would never move the goal posts".
Gaslighting 101
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MAX PAYMENT
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Nah. It's more an overall statement that tend to continually rerelease and recharge for titles. I'm not sure how many digital games bought on ps3 would carry over and function on ps5.
Coffinbirth: "if the games are tied to the PSN account (aka: you bought them digitally, that is how it works), will they charge for them again on PS5?"
You: "No doubt, they will charge again"
Me: "What? Why are you convinced they will not just let you play the game you have already tied to your account like they did for PSP and PS1 titles added to PSN Premium tier?"
You: "Nope, you cannot insert a PSP or PS1 disc in PS4/PS5 can you?"
Me: " We are talking about digital titles, do not move the goal posts…".
You (while caught carrying the goal posts): "Me?!? I would never move the goal posts".
Gaslighting 101
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
More gaslighting there, again people can read.
So, you were just shouting something random to get back at mean old Sony unrelated to what they actually have done with PSP and PS1 titles released with the PSN BC program now where they have been honouring digital licenses?
Again if they decide to buck the trend with PS3 titles, unless they go with native ports and not just emulation, give them shit as it would be more than fair, but right now you made a statement, were called out on it, and are tripling down trying to persuade you did not actually do just that after being presented with the evidence…
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MAX PAYMENT
Member
Right. My entire digital library from ps3 works on my ps5. Oh wait.... it doesn't.More gaslighting there, again people can read.
So, you were just shouting something random to get back at mean old Sony unrelated to what they actually have done with PSP and PS1 titles released with the PSN BC program now where they have been honouring digital licenses?
Again if they decide to buck the trend with PS3 titles, unless they go with native ports and not just emulation, give them shit as it would be more than fair, but right now you made a statement, were called out on it, and are tripling down trying to persuade you did not actually do just that after being presented with the evidence…
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Again, changing goalposts (trying to change the argument) and gaslighting (pretending it was your argument all along).
PS3 digital back-compatibility is not out yet.
You made the point that for sure Sony was going to charge people to play with their already digitally downloaded games/games they already have a PSN license for.
You were reminded that Sony's most recent relevant example are with PSP and PS1 backwards-compatibility where they honoured people's digital PSN licenses.
You then tried to change the argument to a generic "I was just commenting about how they like to re-release old shit".
You then doubled down on the attempt by trying to checkmate others pointing your finger about not being able to play all your PS3 titles in your PS5 today… which is another argument.
Moving the goalposts again trying to change the topic…
No worries, feel free to talk to yourself as right now with random one liners it is quite clear you are essentially drive by trolling trying to get a reaction out of people
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MAX PAYMENT
Member
Were ps1 and psp digital titles bought on ps3 functional on ps5? You certainly seem worked up about this. Your reactions have been worth the price of admission.
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Badlucktroll
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I wonder what chinese company konami hired to shoddily port mgs4 to modern consoles probably from the rumored xbox 360 beta
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Deleted member 848825
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I didnt stay with PS3 long, but would love access to my Ridge Racer game again on PS5. I forget which one it was, but was 60fps and 1080p. One of if not THE last faithful handling model game in the series.
Badlucktroll
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I think we can count on the first emulated titles being shit like Detuned, Flow, Cash Guns Chaos, Calling All Cars, Gripshift, or Super Stardust.
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Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
Don't forget Super Rub a Dub
EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.001
Could barely keep up with all of Sonys backwards compatibility construction the paying twice for a game thing needs to change they need to find a way to insert an old disc onto a new console.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Yeah, figured as such. I don't think the people interested in PS3 native emulation on PS5 would have a problem paying extra for such a drive, though.
Although it might get to a point where they'd need to offer other features to it, like ports for legacy peripherals. At that point they should also just add PS1/PS2 style ports for I/O and let the drive be a defacto emulation machine.
Maybe they could even let it run on its own without a PS5, but connecting it to a PS5 would give additional features and access to digital legacy games (with enhancement/mod packs to boot).
I think we've had this exact conversation back in PS3 days when Sony first removed PS2 BC from hw lol.
It's something that has been mentioned even for XBox a few times when MS launched without BC - general sentiment has always been these companies could upsell BC (the real kind - not the 'limited to curated online licenses' type) - but alas.
Anyway I don't think it makes much sense to do a PS3 ASIC or whatever now though - the cost ratio just doesn't work - especially given they can't even bother funding a BC software layer, so hw is just not happening, like at all.
I do think software solution is a lot more accessible than people give it credit for (ffs PS1 emulator for PS2 was written in like 6 months by one guy - and that had better compatibility than any homebrew), but when a company doesn't want to spend any $ they just don't.
Bry0
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FullMetalx117
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Maybe i'll give this a go, was one of the few ps3 launch/year one titles
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REDRZA MWS
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Played most and bored to death.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Well be "native" I probably should've been more specific and said non-cloud streaming, the way PS5 handles PS3 BC currently. I don't care if they have to software emulate PS3 on x86-64; that is still a big improvement over the cloud streaming option.
If the total emulation package is attractive, it's not like SIE would need even 50% of the total customer base to take it up, to make emulation efforts worth pursuing. The market interested in emulation are mainly willing to pay a worthwhile price for it so long as it isn't complete garbage. So to those sorts, upselling would work and there'd be good profit margins. Also, considering there are emulators on PC that have come and matured very well with shoestring budgets attached to them (if not less), I don't think solid PS3 emulation on SIE's part is a large cost opportunity.
In fact, it'd probably be in the ballpark of some of the cheaper PC ports they've been doing. I can't see total costs being more than $5 - $8 million to get robust PS3, PS2, PS1 etc. emulation going on PS5 that isn't cloud streaming-based. Now the licenses for certain IP to have their games sold in PS Store could be another issue, but that's why they should let people with original discs for those games (or digital versions purchased back when those games were legally available for purchase on PS4, or PS3 etc.) to play them through emulation.
They could even do something like the PolyMega and let users make ISO rips of their disc games to get validated digitally and open them up to additional options for customization mainly reserved for digital versions on PS+ and the PS Store. And if a small company like PolyMega can do that, there is zero excuse why SIE can't do it either.
Dr. Suchong
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Yes.
user friendly
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If I can slap my KZ2 disc into my PS5 I'll cry real tears 
