Support NeoGAF

[AWizardDidIt]

I'm hoping the reason that they are going with PC exclusive with this is due to doing interesting stuff with the procedural generation. Procedurally generating maps can be a very RAM intensive process which is something the new consoles are a bit lacking in.

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

Looks like XCOM is on sale on Steam.

 

[Tagyhag]

I was really hoping for a Terror From the Deep sequel but I guess I'm still happy...;_;

Heh, yeah that's the only disappointing bit from these news.

I would bet it will come to consoles eventually.

I hope it does, but I also hope they don't think about them while developing the game.

 

[Sijil]

I mean I didn't even think that Divinity or Wasteland 2 would be coming to consoles and here we are.

Divinity and Wasteland 2 were always touted to be coming to Xbox 1 at the least, Larian saying Xbox would be a natural fit and what long long before the announcement. Here we have the game designer from the outset saying it's a PC exclusive.

I'm not saying it's never going to come to consoles, you never know what happens, but different circumstances than your examples I guess.

 

[Shake Appeal]

It'll be interesting to see how air combat is handled in a game where you're not intercepting UFOs from space. Or whether there's air combat at all...

I wouldn't miss it much, and it's fairly trivial in EU2012/EW, but older fans won't like it if the strategic layer becomes even more shallow.

 

[UpDownLeftRight]

Is this like Xenonauts? It looks kinda similar.

 

[FaintDeftone]

Love me some X-Com. Bring it on!

 

[PurpleSquid]

I'd like a "casual" mode where soldiers don't die permanently...i hate perma death. can they just go to the hospital for like 3 missions basically meaning I can't use them for the next 3 missions instead, pls?

 

[jon bones]

i guess i'll play this on my Mac!

 

[TheSeks]

Oh damn. Time to finish Enemy Unknown and the Expansion then. OH LORDY.

 

[Nirolak]

Is this like Xenonauts? It looks kinda similar.

Xenonauts is based on the old XCOM games from the 90s, so quite.

 

[Shake Appeal]

I'd like a "casual" mode where soldiers don't die permanently...i hate perma death. can they just go to the hospital for like 3 missions basically meaning I can't use them for the next 3 missions instead, pls?

This happens when they get injured already.

But death is an essential part of the game's design. It's what gives your decisions weight. It's what makes the combat non-trivial. And it's why Ironman is the only correct way to play.

 

[motorised mallard]

It'll be interesting to see how air combat is handled in a game where you're not intercepting UFOs from space. Or whether there's air combat at all...

I wouldn't miss it much, and it's fairly trivial in EU2012/EW, but older fans won't like it if the strategic layer becomes even more shallow.

There is always Xenonauts if that is your thing.

 

[KimonoNoNo]

As a transitioning (from console) PC gamer.

Procedural maps and mod support should give it plenty of legs.

 

[Armaros]

As a transitioning (from console) PC gamer.

Procedural maps and mod support should give it plenty of legs.

Just imagine a Long War type mod without the current constraints they are put under.

 

[Xplatformer]

I'm hoping the reason that they are going with PC exclusive with this is due to doing interesting stuff with the procedural generation. Procedurally generating maps can be a very RAM intensive process which is something the new consoles are a bit lacking in.

How are consoles even "a bit" lacking in ram so far? 16GB SDRAM is not the standard in PCs yet. No Man Sky has procedurally generated stuff.

I haven't heard many developers complaining that 8GB is too few memory. Maybe next year that'll be more common but I don't see most developers pushing that envelope too strongly.

 

[Reluctant-Hero]

As a transitioning (from console) PC gamer.

Procedural maps and mod support should give it plenty of legs.

Yup, same here. I'm shifting from console to PC as well. It feels like 2015 has been a great year to make the transition.

 

[motorised mallard]

Bit early but any word is this going to be 64-bit OS only?

 

[Fushichou187]

That's Tomb Raider though, there aren't an influx of strategy games on the new consoles which is why I'm disappointed. Oh well I'm sure even if it never comes there's a chance for them to at least remaster enemy within with more content and whatnot

XCOM moved nearly twice the units on PS3 & 360 as it did on PC, so unless XCOM 2 is rotten with F2P mechanics (which is an easier sell on PC & mobile), I would be shocked if this sequel doesn't make its way to current gen consoles eventually. If they are leaning super hard into providing a robust toolkit for modders though, it would make sense that resources are thrown at PC/Mac first, and then a leaner version for consoles later.

 

[Nikodemos]

Why do people like TFTD so much? That game was rather bad, and pretty much the only reason for its existence was a stupid UFO Defense bug nobody found out (until way later).

 

[Lanrutcon]

I want to know if the enemies now actually patrol, or if they still teleport around because programming AI is 'hard'.

Apart from that, I'm keen.

 

[Deleted member 125677]

I should probably try out this video game series

 

[Armaros]

XCOM moved nearly twice the units on PS3 & 360 as it did on PC, so unless XCOM 2 is rotten with F2P mechanics (which is an easier sell on PC & mobile), I would be shocked if this sequel doesn't make its way to current gen consoles.

XCOM sold nearly 6 million on last gen consoles?

receipts now.

 

[perfectsil]

it's not like a platform holder is paying them to make the game "exclusive first", if it's coming out to consoles as well they could have just said it is

 

[Mindlog]

This is good.

I really liked my first few playthroughs of the new X-Com. It wasn't everything I wanted, but I understood the hard decisions they had to make for a new audience.

Long War changed everything. Let's do this.

 

[witchedwiz]

Thanks santa claus, you know what i want now !

 

[Octavianus]

I don't think EW changes anything so drastically such that you would go from not liking it to liking it, but it does add a lot more depth to the game. Definitely worth playing in my opinion, but I loved the original too, even if I felt like I had "cracked it" by the end.

I don't know. I guess my main problem with it was that it just felt really light on content.
I could deal with not having Time Units and aliens getting an extra turn to move when I spot them for some reason (I'm glad that seems to be gone in this sequel though) and I could even forgive them for not including base invasions....
But after a while it just felt like I was doing the same thing over and over again.

It's only 7,50 so I guess I'll give it another try.

 

[UpDownLeftRight]

Xenonauts is based on the old XCOM games from the 90s, so quite.

Awesome, no wonder it looked so similar. I could definitely go for another game like that! And as much as it must suck for console only owners, I gotta admit it's refreshing to see the words 'PC exclusive', especially from a larger publisher.

 

[Ramenman]

How do procedural maps suggest "continued support / service?" Don't they suggest the exact opposite?

I understand your point. I was thinking "procedural maps" means you want people to keep playing "forever", but to keep them hooked and/or coming back, on top of that you'd have 'events' with new loot / weapons / skins / enemies, bump up the level cap or some such, which are a less costly and more 'infinite' way to support a game than to try and pump out new campaigns every 2 months.

So procedural maps take care of the actual moment to moment gameplay, but the "meta" motivation would come from somewhere else.

I may be totally wrong though. But that's why "procedural maps" and mod support etc hinted, to me, "continued support", trying to build a durable community, etc, etc. And so F2P could be an option.

I'm not trying to call doom on this game by the way, I enjoyed the last XCOM, but I also have nothing against free to play in itself (it's the game that matters).

 

[nynt9]

XCOM moved nearly twice the units on PS3 & 360 as it did on PC, so unless XCOM 2 is rotten with F2P mechanics (which is an easier sell on PC & mobile), I would be shocked if this sequel doesn't make its way to current gen consoles.

Uh, what? Earlier posts in this thread cited 100k-ish copies on consoles combined and 2mil+ on Steam

 

[Atolm]

Well, pity, since I won't be able to play it, but I'm sure it will be a great game like the previous one.

 

[AColdDay]

I've wanted another X-Com game for so long now. I'm beyond thrilled and can't wait to buy this.

 

[Maintenance]

Nice, loved the first game, hopefully this one will be good.

Lol at the port begging though.

 

[Xplatformer]

XCOM sold nearly 6 million on last gen consoles?

receipts now.

Wait...Xcom moved 3 million copies on PC? Yes, receipts please.

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

Can't wait for this.

 

[CrunchyFrog]

Loved EU, so I'll definitely dive into this. Graphically though that in-game screenshot looks pretty rough for a PC exclusive about to be released in 5 months.

 

[Xamtheking]

Wait...Xcom moved 3 million copies on PC? Yes, receipts please.

Steamspy put them at 2.6-2.7mil
Been mentioned/sourced earlier in this thread

 

[Leafhopper]

XCOM moved nearly twice the units on PS3 & 360 as it did on PC, so unless XCOM 2 is rotten with F2P mechanics (which is an easier sell on PC & mobile), I would be shocked if this sequel doesn't make its way to current gen consoles eventually. If they are leaning super hard into providing a robust toolkit for modders though, it would make sense that resources are thrown at PC/Mac first, and then a leaner version for consoles later.

No it didn't. It sold almost 3 million on PC and sub 200k on consoles.

http://steamspy.com/app/200510

I really want to know where people keep getting this idea that it did good on consoles let alone better than PC.

You heard "PC games are dead" and ran with it, huh?

 

[KKRT00]

XCOM moved nearly twice the units on PS3 & 360 as it did on PC, so unless XCOM 2 is rotten with F2P mechanics (which is an easier sell on PC & mobile), I would be shocked if this sequel doesn't make its way to current gen consoles eventually. If they are leaning super hard into providing a robust toolkit for modders though, it would make sense that resources are thrown at PC/Mac first, and then a leaner version for consoles later.

Yeah...no.

 

[Adnor]

XCOM moved nearly twice the units on PS3 & 360 as it did on PC, so unless XCOM 2 is rotten with F2P mechanics (which is an easier sell on PC & mobile), I would be shocked if this sequel doesn't make its way to current gen consoles eventually. If they are leaning super hard into providing a robust toolkit for modders though, it would make sense that resources are thrown at PC/Mac first, and then a leaner version for consoles later.

Source, please? The links given by other people in the thread said that the PC version sold more than 10 times than the console versions.

 

[Armaros]

Wait...Xcom moved 3 million copies on PC? Yes, receipts please.

http://steamspy.com/app/200510

 

[Crayten]

XCOM moved nearly twice the units on PS3 & 360 as it did on PC, so unless XCOM 2 is rotten with F2P mechanics (which is an easier sell on PC & mobile), I would be shocked if this sequel doesn't make its way to current gen consoles eventually. If they are leaning super hard into providing a robust toolkit for modders though, it would make sense that resources are thrown at PC/Mac first, and then a leaner version for consoles later.

In what alternate universe did it sell twice the pc sales.

 

[Crono27]

XCOM moved nearly twice the units on PS3 & 360 as it did on PC, so unless XCOM 2 is rotten with F2P mechanics (which is an easier sell on PC & mobile), I would be shocked if this sequel doesn't make its way to current gen consoles eventually. If they are leaning super hard into providing a robust toolkit for modders though, it would make sense that resources are thrown at PC/Mac first, and then a leaner version for consoles later.

Uhhhhhh.....

 

[Hibiki Kurosawa]

Oh wow, those details sound amazing. I wonder what they'll say as their reason this game isn't on console, especially if it eventually does come to console. Also, head-to-head mp again? Awesome! Please let there be 2v2!

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

XCOM moved nearly twice the units on PS3 & 360 as it did on PC, so unless XCOM 2 is rotten with F2P mechanics (which is an easier sell on PC & mobile), I would be shocked if this sequel doesn't make its way to current gen consoles eventually. If they are leaning super hard into providing a robust toolkit for modders though, it would make sense that resources are thrown at PC/Mac first, and then a leaner version for consoles later.

 

[Solid Samus]

XCOM moved nearly twice the units on PS3 & 360 as it did on PC

it's amazing how people just assume that's the case all the time. I mean, are you serious, man? I'm glad to join the pile-on because this post is so crazy it's certifiable.

 

[irfaanator]

graphics look kinda whack in the initial screens, but im hype for xcom.

 

[Steel]

Wait...Xcom moved 3 million copies on PC? Yes, receipts please.

Google steamspy, look for xcom.

Uh, what? Earlier posts in this thread cited 100k-ish copies on consoles combined and 2mil+ on Steam

To be fair, that was 100k in the first month. But yeah i seriously doubt the console versions are anywhere near the PC version

 

[PurpleSquid]

This happens when they get injured already.

But death is an essential part of the game's design. It's what gives your decisions weight. It's what makes the combat non-trivial. And it's why Ironman is the only correct way to play.

but like... i don't find it fun that way. i like the the one that came out a few years ago but eventually stopped playing because i restart the missions all the time if one of my character dies. its just the way i play, which is why casual+hard is the way i play fire emblem! couldn't get into the series before they introduced that mode. besides, you'd still have your Ironman mode, no one is going to take that out(well at least I don't want them to take it out), just give me a "sissy" mode where no one dies permanently.

 

[Fushichou187]

XCOM sold nearly 6 million on last gen consoles?

receipts now.

So this is where I'm currently looking...

[Edit: hmm... VGC h a r t z is a banned site? didn't know that]

Maybe they only report physical sales? It's listing global PC sales as 640k, PS3 sales 510k and X360 with 600k.