You should. EW is a great expansion. Some of the scripted story missions are amazing. Especially the whale town.
Noob sticks? Lol lawd, some people.
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XCOM 2 (PC/Mac/Linux, Firaxis, November 2015) announced [Up: New info/screens in OP]
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You should. EW is a great expansion. Some of the scripted story missions are amazing. Especially the whale town.
Noob sticks? Lol lawd, some people.
If the game is only playable with a mouse and keyboard, then that is a good reason not to have standard controller support. Just because it is an XCOM game and turn based does not mean that it must be exactly the same as the previous version. It entirely depends on what they have done in this new version. For all we know they are using some sort of quick time limit per turn rather than movement and action restriction and targeting the esports scene for multiplayer - who knows
There is a eurogamer video I watched that says Jake Solomon went straight on to this after EU and wasn't involved with EW. That would make a bit of sense with being ready by the end of the year. Civ BE had this same kind of surprise factor to how quick they said it would launch, so it could just be what works out for Firaxis
Is this thread gonna be a retread of "why doesn't Diablo 3 PC version have controller support?"
He was talking about XCOM2.
He was talking about XCOM2.
hooijdonk17
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As much as I am hyped for this game the more I look at it the more I am turned off by the graphics and art style..
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Guaranteed buy from me, 2 snipers in the back 1 heavy and 2 soldiers on the frontline, let's see if this is the ultimate squad again.
Awesome news.
I think we get a shift in the thought process of Publishers.
PC/Steam currently has the "Indie-Problem" (no problem for consumers, but for developers) As in, that there are so many Indie releases, that you have to catch the lightning in the bottle to be successfull. A different scenario than 3 to 5 years ago. Were publishing on steam would mean you got free money.
On Consoles: If your indie game is good and you got a Platform-Holder deal, you will not swim in money, but will have a massive PR and recognition boost. That would mean better sales overall on all Platforms.
Now with big publishers:
On Consoles or with Multiplatform releases, you have to fight the Triple A and Quattro A Industry. Releasing a game in November could be suicide if you dont want to take tens or hundreds of million Dollar in the hand.
But going PC Exclusive? Tending to the strength of the platform? KNOWING your niche Audience (meaning millions of niche gamers) You can survive off of this AND make enough money. All those A and AA Publishers know where there strength and Niche Audience lies. And even AAA Publishers (Take2) with AA Games have the Room to get Millions of Sales instead of being a footnote on consoles.
Paradox would probably have gone bankrupt going Consoles.
I think we get a shift in the thought process of Publishers.
PC/Steam currently has the "Indie-Problem" (no problem for consumers, but for developers) As in, that there are so many Indie releases, that you have to catch the lightning in the bottle to be successfull. A different scenario than 3 to 5 years ago. Were publishing on steam would mean you got free money.
On Consoles: If your indie game is good and you got a Platform-Holder deal, you will not swim in money, but will have a massive PR and recognition boost. That would mean better sales overall on all Platforms.
Now with big publishers:
On Consoles or with Multiplatform releases, you have to fight the Triple A and Quattro A Industry. Releasing a game in November could be suicide if you dont want to take tens or hundreds of million Dollar in the hand.
But going PC Exclusive? Tending to the strength of the platform? KNOWING your niche Audience (meaning millions of niche gamers) You can survive off of this AND make enough money. All those A and AA Publishers know where there strength and Niche Audience lies. And even AAA Publishers (Take2) with AA Games have the Room to get Millions of Sales instead of being a footnote on consoles.
Paradox would probably have gone bankrupt going Consoles.
Could we please start bringing out the ban hammer in this thread, this is getting tiresome.
Alex Connolly
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Dignity?
I'd say Jagged Alliance is doing ok on that front.
Come now, those tepid relics don't count. And as a fellow who actually defends the BiA and Crossfire games to an extent, I'm just morose that X-Com gets the successful reboot and Sirtech's absolute masterpiece in JA2 simply cannot be replicated.
People getting jazzed about XCOM 2 being centred around a guerrilla campaign and who have not played JA2 should do themselves a favour in the interim.
AFAICT the likely plot is:
- world is 'wrecked' by the alien invasion of the XCOM game, governments/cities fall apart, XCOM gets closed down, almost a post-apocalyptic mess etc.
- Advent appear and start making utopian, futuristic cities, curing disease, extending life... people flock to those cities.
The game starts when people realise Advent = aliens, and XCOM is re-created to save the day.
But I haven't seen anything official beyond the original site and the trailers.
Xamtheking
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Close, but no smoke and a pancake
Here's how the site says(paraphrasing):
Aliens come and blow our ass up, making world leaders surrender to them and disbanding XCOM
What's left of XCOM goes into hiding on what eventually becomes The Avenger and starts planning ways to try to take back Earth
GreatestHits
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THE RETURN OF THE PC.. HURRAH..
So I guess if my PC can't run newer games but it can run XCOM1, I'm going to be outta luck
So I guess if my PC can't run newer games but it can run XCOM1, I'm going to be outta luck
Xamtheking
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If it can run XCOM1THE RETURN OF THE PC.. HURRAH..
So I guess if my PC can't run newer games but it can run XCOM1, I'm going to be outta luck
It will probably be able to run XCOM 2
dancrane212
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I really like the premise Firaxis is going for with this sequel, been wanting a "fight the alien oppressors" motif since getting my first game-over in the original X-Com.
Yep, as long as the EU4 expansions keep being great, I'll keep buying them.
I'm a bit unsure of Common Sense though
Yeah, I think they've said as much themselves.
Anyway, XCOM2 sounds pretty great. Think I'll check it out, good modding support is always a huge plus with any game.
Dick Justice
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This is pushing me to go back to Enemy Within again. Think I'll wait for the next release of Long War first, hopefully it won't be too long.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Remember when EU4 was relatively new and you were really negative about their DLC strategy and pining for expansion packs of yore?
I can't imagine how HoI4 will be after a year or two of content.
Shake Appeal
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Can anyone remember what time IGN put up their content yesterday?
Edit: n/m, Stapleton's Twitter has me covered:
Edit: n/m, Stapleton's Twitter has me covered:
Xamtheking
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10AM Central or so, I think
hemtae
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10 AM Central time. So in about 1 hour and 20 minutes.
Everytime you restarted without defeating the final mission, the Aliens win.
Surely you mean Bioshock Infinite? Bioshock 2 came out before Enemy Unknown if I recall correctly. What was it? £22.99 on GMG for Infinite, XCOM, Bioshock 1 & 2? One of the best deals I can remember.
Remember when EU4 was relatively new and you were really negative about their DLC strategy and pining for expansion packs of yore?
I can't imagine how HoI4 will be after a year or two of content.
Yep, definitely can remember that. Very happy they proved me wrong
. EU4 has received far better post-release support than EU3 did, and they've really done a good job of responding to the wants of the community.Except for one thing. Bring back 1399 . Just take away the last few decades of CK2, nobody gets that far anyway with how early starting dates there are now.
. Just take away the last few decades of CK2, nobody gets that far anyway with how early starting dates there are now.strangecloud
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I can run this on my Mac most definitely but im not giving up hope for an alternate version for the Ps4, but if nothing else at least I will be able to play it.
Oh fuck off with that "noob stick" comment.
Fragamemnon
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My questions are really about the mod support the game is promising. Delievery over the Steam Workshop is a given, but the question I have is just what areas are going to exposed to modding at release. Are we going to be getting any source code so that we can reimplement native code? Or is everyone just going to writing their mods to a specific exposed set of interfaces and the mods will be dynamically loaded by the game provided the mods are in place and implement the expected interface?
Yeah meant Infinite...
Yeah it is an interesting one. The website confirms:
"Community-focused tools allow you to create your own campaign, tactical gameplay, aliens, classes, strategy game features, and share within the Steam Workshop."
I'm not sure if that is everything, but I was hoping they will allow for messing with some more assets along with the procedural generation as well. It would be great if people could expand upon it or have specific map types or game modes they create have certain elements be procedurally generated to suit what they want to create
I assume they will try to emulate how it works in CIV 5
I would bet that when this game's Enemy Within comes out (meaning its first major expansion, not actually another thing called "Enemy Within"), it'll hit the PS4/Xbone.
Now, I literally never play games on my PC, so I don't have a benchmark at all, but I'm about to buy a new Macbook Pro for college (majoring in CS, so it needs to be pretty beefy). You guys think I'll be good?
3.1GHz Dual-core Intel Core i7
16GB 1866MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
Intel Iris Graphics 6100
The only thing I'm worried about is the graphics card. Will that be okay?
We don't know really. You'll have ot wait till we get minimum spec info.
Your GPU is an integrated one, and that's nto good, but the new Iris APU's are supposed ot be much better than the old ones.
Just wait and see.
Fragamemnon
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Civ 5 was kind of fragmented though. The basic mod making features were there early, but the library code so we could recompile some of the DLLs in Civ 5 came much much later.
Doesn't the MBP have graphics switching? My 2012 MBPR has a Nividia 650M and it runs the 2012 XCOM fine when I bootcamp on Windows (I haven't tried the Mac port, and don't intend to).
Battle scanners are a band-aid solution. Long War has more pods in most missions than vanilla, so moving up aggressively gives you a higher chance of activating pods. And those pods are actually a threat throughout the game, unlike in vanilla where you can roflstomp them mid-to-late game with 100% crit squadsight double tap snipers. Battle scanners help you plan your engagements, but don't fix the underlying problem that Long War is campier than vanilla. And it's not like battle scanners are unlimited, either.
Long War itself seems to promote a more passive style of play, with its myraid of perks, weapons, etc. that give bonuses to not moving: Infantry, LMG's, Battle/Heavy Rifles, Platform Stability, Rocket Scatter mechanics. Sure, you have Assaults and sometimes Scouts, but pretty much every other class is long-range oriented. When the majority of your squad gets bonuses from staying still, you can't engage properly when moving up aggressively. There's a reason why the most popular strategy for dealing with landed large UFO's in Long War is sitting behind cover and spamming alt-O until most pods are dead. Moving up is a huge risk.
Fragamemnon
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Long War has tools for aggressive, non-campy play. I'm averaging meld can recovery rates of nearly 70% in my current campaign, and while I do have overwatch troops that doesn't mean I sit there and camp waiting for aliens to come to me. Overwatch can be used very aggressively. I double move more than I blue move overwatch without a doubt.
Especially now w/ the command ability in b15e, you have a lot of tools to push forward on maps and constantly be fighting without triggering too many enemy pods at once.
I don't really know what that means, honestly. Is that one of the 15" models? I think the 15" ones have an actual graphics card, but those are considerably more expensive, and I've been told I need a 3.0 gHz+ processor, but you can't get that on the 15". Granted, they're quad core vs dual core, but I don't really know enough about computers to really know what that means.
hemtae
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Fragamemnon
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we fucking lost guys
oh my god movement waypoints, no more tile hunting to find pathing that isn't derp.
oh my god movement waypoints, no more tile hunting to find pathing that isn't derp.
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