KO Traveling Hobo
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This game.And if any of them is injured they actually appear on the infirmaryIt's some nice touches.
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XCOM: Enemy Unknown |OT| Neo GAF is Under Alien Control
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After jumping back into impossible I agree. It really forces you to play at your absolute best on impossible, which classic has moments of, but doesn't last.
rohlfinator
Member
Good to know, thanks. I agree, the balance seems great already. Some of the balance mods on Nexusmods look like they would remove a lot of the chance and consequence from things.
Oppo
Member
What the shit??
My frame rate in this game has just falled through the floor. Nothing changed! I was mid-game!
Like switching between a battle and the base... now it seems permanently fucked. Rebooting doesn't fix it.
Does anyone know what's up with this? I think it patched itself just before I started playing today (has been a little while) and I was playing happily for quite some time until it just decided to start sucking.
Seriously, any light someone can shed on this would be greatly appreciated. I'm mystified. And fucking irritated. We're talking from 45+ to sub-10 FPS. Everywhere.
My frame rate in this game has just falled through the floor. Nothing changed! I was mid-game!
Like switching between a battle and the base... now it seems permanently fucked. Rebooting doesn't fix it.
Does anyone know what's up with this? I think it patched itself just before I started playing today (has been a little while) and I was playing happily for quite some time until it just decided to start sucking.
Seriously, any light someone can shed on this would be greatly appreciated. I'm mystified. And fucking irritated. We're talking from 45+ to sub-10 FPS. Everywhere.
Problem is that some maps on Impossible difficulty are, in fact, impossible to win.
I got a defuse map (first council mission, second mission of the game) on a bit of straight bridge. Almost no cover (certainly not enough for all 4 squaddes), a Thin Man triggered at the second power source, a trio of Sectoids at the next one and then four more at the third one. It's almost impossible to force the game to only activate them one at a time because no-one can get close enough or into flanking position to actually shoot any of the aliens. Plus, bomb timer. My sniper is useless as they don't have squad sight yet. I inevitably end up wasting grenades (two per alien) or my heavy's rocket in order to progress but that leaves me with nothing to take on the further aliens. My assault is useless as any attempt to get close enough to shotgun triggers more Sectoids that I can't handle. There's some scattered cover spots - trucks and a couple of utilities, but more often than not the full cover is worthless and there's nowhere to hide in absolute cover. A squaddie is killed pretty much every turn from about the third on.
So yeah, I'm not enjoying Impossible at all :-(
Yeah, it sucks sometimes for sure. I think what helped me earlier was knowing that there are some games where you can fail even if you do everything really well. In particular getting narrow maps very early on can be a death sentence. Some other things -- getting bomb diffusal when you aren't ready, getting a terror mission when you don't have the troops for it, and really getting shitty luck with the missions (which cause sats to become unavailable) can all screw you over.
But overall I like impossible a lot more, and will probably default to it from this time forward.
weekend_warrior
Banned
Getting a bomb disposal in the first month for me is an automatic skip. No thanks council, keep your rubbish reward, I'm not getting my entire squad wiped out.
I would have said the same thing, but I just came out of 2 impossible games where I got disposal in the first month and survived. That being said I had a full squad of non-rookies for each, both were on non-narrow maps (graveyard with giant crypt in the center for one, Train yard for the other).
These games were a wash for me though because I had already decided to fuck it, since the abduction missions came way to late to build more than 1 sat for month 1. I went in not caring too much, played very aggressively, got lucky, and survived both.
Oh damn. The big graveyard. It was the third map on my current Impossible run. Took cover behind the lanterns, on the edge of the map: still, one of my guy managed to trigger all the goddamn patrols. All of them. Sectoids everywhere. A slaughter. My sniper managed to get out alive, killing the mind mergers. Twenty days in the hospital.
Yeah, this is going to be a tough one!
Problem? Am I reading this right?
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Just according to keikaku.
If you get a first month bomb disposal, your best bet is memorizing where all the spawns are since they are always the same.
New Commander Beagle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_1_Ji7n-xE&feature=em-uploademail
weekend_warrior
Banned
Best one yet.
I've survived other bomb defuses in Impossible at that stage of the campaign, so yeah as you say, it's not just that it's a bomb defuse. It's just the combination of rookies, bomb defuse and narrow map that makes it impossible.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Nice. On that map, I usually just take the rooftops since the thinmen that drop from the sky always do so close to my troops and get slaughtered by overwatch.
I can also set up a pretty easy trap for the last 5 sectoids hanging out at the end.
protip for the escort missions where the VIP starts with you: for the first few turns, just stay put and overwatch since the first couple thinmen will drop right in front of you and you can blast them with overwatch. As you progress through the stage, you will trigger other thinmen drop events, so just take it slow and every once in a while after making progress, just do a couple overwatch turns to see if anything happens to drop out of the sky.
Gully State
Member
I wish there was a good way to record your matches. Sometimes you just set up your guys in perfect position and flush aliens in such a way that they just walks perfectly into your overwatching flanking snipers...
KrM DeLorean
Member
From Beagles latest, lol
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Do I automatically procure weapons from the battle after its over or do I have to enable some action from my soldiers?
Toofcake, hihi.
Last time I did that on the map I got shot through the roof...
You only get fragments and not even those if you use explosives. The only way to procure them is to capture an alien.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Ahh gotcha thanks Rufus.
Time to dive back into XCOM, after taking a short break for Dishonored. I think it's about time I tried out impossible. Rules of engagement nice and simple, no saves mid-mission. No replaying a mission if at least half my squad makes it back. The rest, I'll decide as it goes.
It's no ironman, but I think it strikes a nice balance between frustration and a fair challenge.
It's no ironman, but I think it strikes a nice balance between frustration and a fair challenge.
weekend_warrior
Banned
Does Beagle take Sundays off? Where's my new Ironman Impossible episode??
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Let a lesser UFO get away. A Battleship will show up to destroy your satellite in that area. Make it regret that.
I have been trying to get a good start on a run, but half the time I dont get an abduction until there is 23-24 days left for council, this makes it so my first workshop is completed 13-14 days before council and my satelites cant be launced first month (except 1).
Is this just completely random or can I control it somehow? I'm tired of starting over.
Is this just completely random or can I control it somehow? I'm tired of starting over.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
It's random. While first month 4 sats are a good strat, it's not absolutely necessary.
If the first abduction mission doesn't happen in time, you can do an early OTS, and/or rush an alien capture/scientists instead so you can go for early light plasma rifles.
Yup, it's Steamworks.
w00t, thanks!
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
I'm sure this a dumb question but I can't figure out how to exit flight mode. When I click on the icon it says I can enter or exit it but I can't get it to exit.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Fly back down to the ground.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
I'm a moron. Ha thanks man.
What I would like to see implemented is an option for aliens to play "normally" on their turn.
-remove the scatter animation;
-enemy units play their full individual turns, taking cover, going in overwatch, mind merging, etc.
That would actually make the game harder, since players wouldn't be able to abuse overwatch on scattering aliens, and would most likely run into overwatch shots.
The aliens' turns would take longer, but so were the original x-com's.
-remove the scatter animation;
-enemy units play their full individual turns, taking cover, going in overwatch, mind merging, etc.
That would actually make the game harder, since players wouldn't be able to abuse overwatch on scattering aliens, and would most likely run into overwatch shots.
The aliens' turns would take longer, but so were the original x-com's.
Thanks, that did it.
Also my good argentinian comrade Ernesto Flores just managed to get me the Xavier achievement so I'm just about done with my first playthrough. I've also just noticed that I've been playing on Classic, so I think I'll try doing the "beat a mission with a single soldier" achievement. Not really sure how I'll do it, though, got any tips?
Was taught another lesson on impossible tonight. Funny how it's my 4th time through the game and there is still stuff to learn.
Know the layout of the map people! It's not REALLY relevant on other difficulties, but you gotta take a path through the map that's to your advantage. I'm not talking about high cover by the way, more like knowing how many flanks you're going to be exposed on.
I'm in the second month, so it's that point where there are plenty of floaters and thin men and you're stuck with stock gear save for SCOPEs and nano fibers. The map was one of the smaller ones where you open up at one edge of a rectangle, both of the far walls are buildings and in the middle is a courtyard with a fountain. It's night time... you've probably seen it before.
Well, I stuck to the exterior 3 times and lost all 3 attempts. It doesn't matter if everyone is behind high cover and you've got heavies and a sniper ready. The patrols converge in such a way that you'll have at least 9 of the 12 aliens in your sight in a span of a couple of turns. Finally decided to go around and into a building before engaging, bought just enough time to take care of them 1-2 packs at a time.
I definitely don't have enough experience to know the spawn points and enemy numbers on maps(hey, I've seen videos where people have it down to a T). But yea, if you find yourself in a shitty place on a map, it doesn't matter what your cover looks like or how careful you are about movement. It's a disadvantage, maybe one that's exacerbated on impossible, but it's there.
Know the layout of the map people! It's not REALLY relevant on other difficulties, but you gotta take a path through the map that's to your advantage. I'm not talking about high cover by the way, more like knowing how many flanks you're going to be exposed on.
I'm in the second month, so it's that point where there are plenty of floaters and thin men and you're stuck with stock gear save for SCOPEs and nano fibers. The map was one of the smaller ones where you open up at one edge of a rectangle, both of the far walls are buildings and in the middle is a courtyard with a fountain. It's night time... you've probably seen it before.
Well, I stuck to the exterior 3 times and lost all 3 attempts. It doesn't matter if everyone is behind high cover and you've got heavies and a sniper ready. The patrols converge in such a way that you'll have at least 9 of the 12 aliens in your sight in a span of a couple of turns. Finally decided to go around and into a building before engaging, bought just enough time to take care of them 1-2 packs at a time.
I definitely don't have enough experience to know the spawn points and enemy numbers on maps(hey, I've seen videos where people have it down to a T). But yea, if you find yourself in a shitty place on a map, it doesn't matter what your cover looks like or how careful you are about movement. It's a disadvantage, maybe one that's exacerbated on impossible, but it's there.
Yeah, that Data Center map is brutal if you get stuck out in the open. Like you said, I usually head straight north, with multiple entrances and good cover it's a much better place to be. You can usually engage a pack inside the "cube" area, and then grab the ones in the upper management offices afterwards by sneaking around further.
I finally beat the game a few days ago (just on normal) and while it was pretty good at first, got pretty tiring and repetetive later on. Once the gear upgrades stopped coming in (really, only 3 tiers?) and money is basically useless, it got a bit boring.
I may try playing on Classic so that I actually have to pay attention, but I really dislike the fact that 95% of missions are randomly generated. It just felt like a string of skirmishes against the AI rather than an actual campaign. I did about 40 missions in my playthrough, and only got one bomb mission the whole time and two VIPs. The vast majority were just killing all the aliens in a town/UFO.
I may try playing on Classic so that I actually have to pay attention, but I really dislike the fact that 95% of missions are randomly generated. It just felt like a string of skirmishes against the AI rather than an actual campaign. I did about 40 missions in my playthrough, and only got one bomb mission the whole time and two VIPs. The vast majority were just killing all the aliens in a town/UFO.
electricpirate
Member
Okay Xcom Gaf, this game got me interested in the original so I Dl'd it off steam.
Should I install any of the Mods? I'm kind of shocked how bad the UI is, even for a 1994 PC era game (No hotkeys????), so I'd like to put in one of the mods that fixes that, but I don't want to really change the experience in other ways. If possible, i'd like a vanilla experience with hotkeys, and maybe a few extra bits of UI information. Can any of the mods out there do that? Most seem like they do something along those lines, then contain a bunch of arbitrary gameplay tweaks that I don't really care about.
Should I install any of the Mods? I'm kind of shocked how bad the UI is, even for a 1994 PC era game (No hotkeys????), so I'd like to put in one of the mods that fixes that, but I don't want to really change the experience in other ways. If possible, i'd like a vanilla experience with hotkeys, and maybe a few extra bits of UI information. Can any of the mods out there do that? Most seem like they do something along those lines, then contain a bunch of arbitrary gameplay tweaks that I don't really care about.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
I'm not aware of any mods that do those things.
electricpirate
Member
UFO extender does it, and I'm realizing you can turn everything off. My current game in OG xcom just ate it (AHHHHHHHHHHHH NIGHT MISSIONS), so I'll try it for my second. Sorry to ask a question I answered myself.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
Huh. The more you know.
Night missions are the worst. I always go out of my way to land during the day if possible, and if I absolutely have to go at night then I spam flares all over the map.
Me too, it's really dumb to have the common squad abilities bind to different numbers for each soldier and it just makes me hunker down less.
I do appreciate being able to spam tab+Y