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XCOM: Enemy Within |OT| Your Soldiers Never Asked For This
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that sounds unpleasant.
Fuck!
Lesson of the day : Don't abuse the button to make all items available !
I just got the base invasion mission, and all of my soldiers were as naked as babies save for three of them that did not get injured in the previous mission.
I managed to get through it with only one important loss, and 4 rookies/security agents, thanks to the fact that it was only on Normal/Ironman, I don't think I want to know how this mission is on Classic or Impossible .....
I'm also playing with every second wave options that make soldiers completely random, some weird stuff happened, but there is also some cool combinations that you can achieve if you are lucky enough.
I just got the base invasion mission, and all of my soldiers were as naked as babies save for three of them that did not get injured in the previous mission.
I managed to get through it with only one important loss, and 4 rookies/security agents, thanks to the fact that it was only on Normal/Ironman, I don't think I want to know how this mission is on Classic or Impossible .....
I'm also playing with every second wave options that make soldiers completely random, some weird stuff happened, but there is also some cool combinations that you can achieve if you are lucky enough.
Baron_Calamity
Member
I discovered that too, right after I upgraded my mecs to have grenade launchers. :O
Disabling shot is the best solution to inconvenient mind controls, since whenever the AI gets disabled all it cares about doing is reloading its weapon ASAP.
I wish I understood exactly how the ethereal reflection shield worked though. Seems kinda random? Seems to frequently ruin my alloy cannon run and gun rapid fire gambits and makes me really nervous around ethereals.
Funniest anti-ethereal strat - give a psi soldier combat drugs and a mind shield, and mind control anything.
I wish I understood exactly how the ethereal reflection shield worked though. Seems kinda random? Seems to frequently ruin my alloy cannon run and gun rapid fire gambits and makes me really nervous around ethereals.
Funniest anti-ethereal strat - give a psi soldier combat drugs and a mind shield, and mind control anything.
I finally hit the base invasion mission and it destroyed me. I started with my best sniper, one support and an assault along with the 4 random dudes. Here's what the aliens spawned with: two mechs, two sectiods and one muton. Their second wave was 4(!!) cyberdisks and some drones.This is on a normal play through.
After that was quickly over I went back to a previous save and really decked out my guys to be ready the next time. But it turns out the alien spawns are completely random. they only spawned with one mech the second time around and the fliers that got brought in were just floaters. That time it was a breeze.
After that was quickly over I went back to a previous save and really decked out my guys to be ready the next time. But it turns out the alien spawns are completely random. they only spawned with one mech the second time around and the fliers that got brought in were just floaters. That time it was a breeze.
Boss Riovane
Member
I got mechtoids and a chysallid spawn on my first wave. But after the invasion abuse the hell out of the make everything available button. Your chances are significantly increased when ever something is surpressed. And ghost armor+ arc thrower= profit.
TC McQueen
Member
My initial wave had a bunch of mutons and crysallids. The second or third had cyberdisks.
Slackbladder
Member
There's a bug with the Chryssalid Newfoundland mission. It came really late for me and I have two mechs, one with Proximity mines. Don't put them by the
, it'll make the game CTD.
sharks that the Chryssalids jump out of
Impressive game.
I've played the demo before and i liked it though it didn't feel that special.
After playing the actual game (Enemy Within on 360)... Impressive.
Fun, addictive, challenging (even on normal, though arguably this is because i fucked up tech research and base design).
And that feel when a ten mission veteran gets critically hit from a long range plasma shot and is brutally flung away...
Also, haven't gotten very far yet but based on the description, neurofeedback gene-mod seems rather useless... is my hunch about it correct or am i still too early (and playing on too low difficulty) to appreciate it?
I've played the demo before and i liked it though it didn't feel that special.
After playing the actual game (Enemy Within on 360)... Impressive.
Fun, addictive, challenging (even on normal, though arguably this is because i fucked up tech research and base design).
And that feel when a ten mission veteran gets critically hit from a long range plasma shot and is brutally flung away...
Also, haven't gotten very far yet but based on the description, neurofeedback gene-mod seems rather useless... is my hunch about it correct or am i still too early (and playing on too low difficulty) to appreciate it?
Started a new classic game.
First mission outside the initial tutorial/starter misison was the small car garage map.
I walked forward, spawned 3 groups of sectoids, 7 in total.
4 to the west, 3 to the north, only cover I had was explosive cars.
Thanks XCOM. Never had a mission go so poorly so early on the first move.
First mission outside the initial tutorial/starter misison was the small car garage map.
I walked forward, spawned 3 groups of sectoids, 7 in total.
4 to the west, 3 to the north, only cover I had was explosive cars.
Thanks XCOM. Never had a mission go so poorly so early on the first move.
TC McQueen
Member
Well, the expansion material is integrated into the original campaign, but you can play the original and get it later.
N7_average_azn
Neo Member
The gameplay strategy changes dramatically once you can get your soldiers equipped with carapace armor and laser weapons. Once I had that, I was no longer scared of EXALT, since they go down like flies and can't one-shot you as long as you watch for Heavies and don't be too reckless.
Also, high ground with skeleton suits is badass as hell. You're like freakin Batman with grappling hooks! >D
You could also gene mod your soldiers with the anti-psionic Head gene. You counter attack psionics with space acid from your mind!
N7_average_azn
Neo Member
Damn, what a sticky situation. lol Did you rocket and nade that one guy so that he can make it out even with only a few HP?
I lost my only squad member (stupid rookie) on that mission too.
afreaknamedpete
Member
Newfoundland is a really raw deal. There's a pretty good chance of wiping if you get it early, and the only reward you get is panic reduction, and nothing else, not even the leftover corpses.
Nah, no need, all 4 were catching up with me on their dash move so they couldn't attack, and fortunately you can move diagonally. It did look funny with them grouping up around me each turn.
But yeah, I didn't even made it to the
airstrike
Played the base defense yesterday. I loved it. I was lasered-up, with no armor though. I had one gene-mod major Assault and a MEC Colonel.
Faced mutons, chrysalids, cyberdisks and 3 or 4 Mechtoids (first appearance in my game, too)
I lost a Captain in the process, R.I.P in peace Bev Crusher.
My XCOM HQ defense squad did fairly well. I wish you could keep them. In their honor, I'm going to field 4 rookies in baby blue with hats on, and see how far they go.
I also keep forgetting to scan for EXALT activity. In my 4th extraction, they finally wisened-up and had laser weapons and Gene mods, but they're still mostly pushovers. The exalt misions need to be harder, or to start sooner in the game TBH.
This expansion is crazy good. Hopefully they bring something soon to complement the late game. I'd be down.
Faced mutons, chrysalids, cyberdisks and 3 or 4 Mechtoids (first appearance in my game, too)
I lost a Captain in the process, R.I.P in peace Bev Crusher.
My XCOM HQ defense squad did fairly well. I wish you could keep them. In their honor, I'm going to field 4 rookies in baby blue with hats on, and see how far they go.
I also keep forgetting to scan for EXALT activity. In my 4th extraction, they finally wisened-up and had laser weapons and Gene mods, but they're still mostly pushovers. The exalt misions need to be harder, or to start sooner in the game TBH.
This expansion is crazy good. Hopefully they bring something soon to complement the late game. I'd be down.
I believe so
Aiming angles and absolutely critical aren't bad. Training roulette is really where fun times are to be had though, but it really fucks over snipers
Yes, you need to keep the Foundry. If you deconstruct it you lose all the upgrades you've researched until you build a fresh one.
I tried to get clever like that once upon a time. It didn't end well for me.
Beat a normal campaign the other day--absolutely adored it. Checked the list and realized I only had a couple 'cheivos to go for dat S-RANK,
By Our Powers Combined
An Army Of Four
Guardian of Earth
Tingling Sensation
I figure Guardian of Earth is easy enough; I didn't really understand medals first run and handed them out willy-nilly; I'll just hold back one of each until showtime.
Tingling Sensation too shouldn't be bad, I never did give someone Bioelectric skin or whatever; how does that work?
I welcome our new robot overlords for By Our Powers Combined.
An Army of Four tho. Holy shit. Classic is WAY harder than Normal I'm somewhat embarrassed to admit, and the four-member limit is catastrophic. I guess I just gotta move super super super slow and never uncover enemies unless it's on purpose. I keep fanning out my squad on the first move and all of a sudden I'm up against 6-8 sectoids that can actually hit me in cover from across the map for near-lethal damage...
By Our Powers Combined
An Army Of Four
Guardian of Earth
Tingling Sensation
I figure Guardian of Earth is easy enough; I didn't really understand medals first run and handed them out willy-nilly; I'll just hold back one of each until showtime.
Tingling Sensation too shouldn't be bad, I never did give someone Bioelectric skin or whatever; how does that work?
I welcome our new robot overlords for By Our Powers Combined.
An Army of Four tho. Holy shit. Classic is WAY harder than Normal I'm somewhat embarrassed to admit, and the four-member limit is catastrophic. I guess I just gotta move super super super slow and never uncover enemies unless it's on purpose. I keep fanning out my squad on the first move and all of a sudden I'm up against 6-8 sectoids that can actually hit me in cover from across the map for near-lethal damage...
speculawyer
Member
Yeah, I had a situation like that. A guy got completely surrounded but he was able to dash out of there.
Stronghammer22
Member
Say you're in cover up against the wall of a building and an alien is on the other side of the wall, you will see an electromagnetic field which tells you it is there. It's pretty handy actually. With the stealth strangle things, you can just throw grenades or shoot rockets at them for the achievement. Should be easy enough.
what's the range on bioelectric field anyway?
Stronghammer22
Member
It's not a big area, maybe half of a regular move?
InsaneElite
Member
Haven't posted in here in a while. About to wrap up my Classic playthrough that I dragged out to October, and in mid-May on my latest Ironman Impossible run now.
Definitely liking the expansion a lot overall. It's really reached that sweet spot of replayability for me; I almost feel like booting up another run as soon as I finish this Classic one. Really hope this sold well enough to overshadow The Bureau's failure.
Definitely liking the expansion a lot overall. It's really reached that sweet spot of replayability for me; I almost feel like booting up another run as soon as I finish this Classic one. Really hope this sold well enough to overshadow The Bureau's failure.
Yep fuck that mission I was wiped because of it. If that was on an iron man run it would of cost me the game. Luckily for me it wasn't and I just reloaded and then skipped it. Anyone know if that will have some consequences down the road, because as far as i can tell nothing happened when i ignored it?
ambientmystic
Member
Just got this expac a few days ago, great stuff.
I was wondering if there were any downsides to making all your troopers Genemen. I guess there are none, as it seems like you can stack PSI upgrades ontop of gene upgrades too apparently when you get the Psionic Labs facility after the Base Assault mission. Too bad Meld supplies are limited per mission and sometimes require you to pretty much send troops off on their lonesome to gather them before they self-destruct. Mimetic Skin on Snipers is pretty damned hax since they have that ability that converts any kind of cover to full cover right away, I foresee the ability being nerfed in a patch. The only downside is pretty much cosmetic, they all seem to have sleeveless armor that really looks crappy (why would you wanna expose your bare arms to enemy weapon fire?), even after you've obtained the next tier, i.e. Titan Armor and the like. Any mods for changing it back to the standard sleek armor designs that standard troopers use?
Also went for the MEC Trooper early on just to see how they're like. I converted a male Squaddie for the job as an experiment, thinking that the augmentation just involved installing some neural interfaces/implants for the mechanized robotic suit, ala Mechwarrior/Battletech with the Neurohelmet. Imagine my horror when the cutscene played out later on showing my poor trooper had his arms and legs amputated and replaced with mettalic appendages instead. I almost felt sorry for him lol, but he quickly became my most effective tank/one man wrecking machine after a few missions and promotions. Flamethrower is pretty godlike during the Alien Terror missions, and the endgame Particle Cannon primary weapon is sick. His life after the invasion ends is pretty much over lol.
In terms of the gameplay, it does seem like Normal is way easier now, although Classic is much harder for some reason. There really ought to be a difficulty in between them to bridge the gulf.
I was wondering if there were any downsides to making all your troopers Genemen. I guess there are none, as it seems like you can stack PSI upgrades ontop of gene upgrades too apparently when you get the Psionic Labs facility after the Base Assault mission. Too bad Meld supplies are limited per mission and sometimes require you to pretty much send troops off on their lonesome to gather them before they self-destruct. Mimetic Skin on Snipers is pretty damned hax since they have that ability that converts any kind of cover to full cover right away, I foresee the ability being nerfed in a patch. The only downside is pretty much cosmetic, they all seem to have sleeveless armor that really looks crappy (why would you wanna expose your bare arms to enemy weapon fire?), even after you've obtained the next tier, i.e. Titan Armor and the like. Any mods for changing it back to the standard sleek armor designs that standard troopers use?
Also went for the MEC Trooper early on just to see how they're like. I converted a male Squaddie for the job as an experiment, thinking that the augmentation just involved installing some neural interfaces/implants for the mechanized robotic suit, ala Mechwarrior/Battletech with the Neurohelmet. Imagine my horror when the cutscene played out later on showing my poor trooper had his arms and legs amputated and replaced with mettalic appendages instead. I almost felt sorry for him lol, but he quickly became my most effective tank/one man wrecking machine after a few missions and promotions. Flamethrower is pretty godlike during the Alien Terror missions, and the endgame Particle Cannon primary weapon is sick. His life after the invasion ends is pretty much over lol.
In terms of the gameplay, it does seem like Normal is way easier now, although Classic is much harder for some reason. There really ought to be a difficulty in between them to bridge the gulf.
Imperfected
Member
Can't we just have Richard Branson protect us from the aliens?
That is exactly what i was thinking. Classic went from the perfect difficulty to me to holy shit how I can't even make it past the second month. It caused me to admit defeat and give up any idea of doing another iron man run on classic. I personally blame the new missions the DLC and expansion added. Some of them are pretty unforgiving. I would kill for something between normal which I found to easy and classic which I find too unforgiving now.
TC McQueen
Member
I'd settle for some sort of mod that spread things out a bit. May is an insanely dense month on Normal - I can only imagine how bad it is on Classic since I haven't finished on Normal yet.
Accept protection from a subject of the British monarchy? A minion of the lineage which subjected our nascent republic to taxation without representation?
No, I think I speak for all Americans when I say that I would sooner be probed by a Sectoid than accept aid from the redcoats.
Yeah that is probably it. As soon as you get done with one thing you are hit by the next. The is very little time to recover and if you have suffered casualties(dead or wounded) you may be face with a man power shortage very quickly.
There's a pretty easy solution to your problem, just get better. I think you'll find that if you just take it seriously, Classic isn't very difficult at all.
My total for the base was 31 aliens killed. First group was x1 cryssalid, x2 sectoids, x1 commander, x3 Mechtoids. Second group was x1 Berzerker, x1 cryssalid, x2 cyberdisks, x2 seekers, x4 drones, x2 floaters. Third group was x4 Mutons, x2 cryssalids, and x1 berzerker. Final group was x1 cyberdisk, x2 commanders, x2 mechtoids, and x2 drones.
Hard fights but I had managed to get my people into titan armor and give my supports plasma rifles, and my MEC trooper his final suit. EMP generator is amazing when dealing with robots. I only lost one guy, base security on classic.
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