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Xenoblade |OT| Sorry I Kept You Waiting!
- Thread starter SecretMoblin
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I've played and love Sin and Punishment and am already planning on picking up a copy fairly soon. The small library isn't from a lack of games that I want, I just haven't been able to invest in a Wii library until fairly recently, especially since I don't actually own my own console yet.
Gillian Seed
Banned
Never played DQ VII, but Xenoblade is something special. Just play it and you'll see for yourself
I have not played DQVII either. LOL But DQVIII is my all time favorite rpg with SWKOTOR.
I agree.
I think a lot of the people doing the hyping are also the people who would say there hasn't been any good JRPGs in a very long time.
People here have bought into the hype even though they don't like RPGs. I'm interested in seeing general opinion when people actually get far into it after months and months of GAF declaring this the best JRPG ever in like every category.
But eh... I guess I support the hype. If nothing else, it'll help sales and that can help to tell Nintendo that the west still wants JRPGs.
Trancetronic
Member
There was a story? I just liked the battle system, large pool of characters, magic, attacks and the beautiful visuals and music!
ElectricBanquet
Member
I want to play this game, but my Wii is still kaput. I should probably just pay the 75 bucks and get it fixed already.
Pft. What? Its certainly got that. Lots of it, all over the place. But I don't have a problem with anime so.........
I loved that game, and can resolutely say yes!
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
This should be the Game of the Uear; it was for me last year.
I agree, this game is just filled with over the top battle anime cliches. But I loved the genre, so it falls right into my alley. I ended up wishing Shulk and friends get their own mecha ala Xenogears at one point, but it's great as is. 8)
Pyrrhus
Member
It's not better than Chrono Trigger. But it's arguably the best JRPG since the PS2 era. Its main problem is that it's overlong. The story hits a natural climax and then they expect you to keep playing and dinking around with sidequests and going through extra areas for another seven or eight hours.
Well, any cliches in the narrative don't really have anything to do with anime per say. There's a number of typical rpg story elements in there, but that doesn't mean its not well put together. To me its a pretty straightforward revenge arc for a large part of the game that becomes more as the story progresses. There's nothing in there that stands out as poorly written, but its not particularly unique either, outside of the world that it builds and some of the plot twists.
Please tell me "You will know our names" is the default boss battle theme.
Sounds like FFXII to me. I completely lost the point of the story because I was inundated with clan mark hunts among other things.
Sounds like FFXII to me. I completely lost the point of the story because I was inundated with clan mark hunts among other things.
The Boss theme is different, "You will know our names" is played whenever you encounter a Unique Monster in the field. So you'll be hearing it a lot.
Oh even better then.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
The main boss theme is "One Who Gets in Our Way." But there are several other songs that play during boss fights during story sequences.
Yessir, my 130 some odd hours with my import copy were on Dolphin.
It is very taxing on the system, but my machine was good enough to play it at all full speed. The only real flaw is that audio can potentially glitch out and turn really ugly sounding. It tends to happen most when a whole lot of stuff is going on or when the same song has been playing for a long time without interruption. The fix for if/when it happens is usually simply to change the song that's playing, either by entering battle, initiating a cutscene, changing the time of day, or warping to another zone. There is also an audio option that I'm told works perfectly, but you need to have an absolute beast of a machine to do it. My now two year old i7 rig couldn't handle it.
Other than that, though, it is GLORIOUS on Dolphin. It looks amazing and sharp, and the Xbox 360 controller is the best possible control scheme for the game, since it fixes the CC Pro's only real shortcoming by switching the positions of the D-pad and left stick, thus making it a lot easier to move and select battle commands without having to resort to the dreaded claw.
Cerebral Assassin
Member
I don't really like jRPG's (the only other two that I have played for any decent period of time are FFVII & CT), & I have really enjoyed what I have played of Xenoblade(My characters are around Lv 50), the way the game introduces the different elements without overwhelming the player(outside of the sheer amount of sidequests) makes it a good place to start with the genre , so I think they would be fine.
Pyrrhus
Member
It really can't be said enough how spectacular the soundtrack is. It's got a really great voice track, too. Characters I would normally hate like the meat head Reyn and would-be mascot character Riki are actually pretty endearing in large part because the voice work is so likable.
Yep, and it never gets old. This music is just so good, like all the soundtrack. Unfinished Battle is one of my favorites too, its a shame that you only can hear it once in the whole game. Tragic Decision is a masterpiece.
The only theme that got on my nerves was
Riki
Pyrrhus
Member
Honestly, I think the game has a pretty Phantasy Star vibe in general. A lot of the later weapons and armor would fit in with Phantasy Star no problem. And the story deals with similar sci-fi tropes.
That CPU isn't really necessary unless you really need to run the LLE audio, which is far more intensive than the HLE audio. My machine is a pre-Sandy Bridge i7 running at stock, and it ran at 95-100% at all times, rendering at 3x internal resolution with 4x AA and 16x AF (AA and AF forced through the video card, not through Dolphin settings). I was willing to put up with the minor annoyance of occasionally having to change the time of day every now and then to fix the BGM when it decided to spaz out, though. YMMV
My machine is probably pretty close to the minimum needed to run well while still producing those kinds of results, though.
That's good. Do you like RPGs in general?
I'm not particularly worried about how non-RPG people will take to this after the hype. I'm just interested in seeing whether this will still be perceived as the saviour of video games.
Note that I like the game a lot, but I don't agree with it being the best RPG ever with the best soundtrack ever and the best art ever, etc. People declaring it GOTY when we're just finishing March.
It's been a while since I've seen something so hyped up.
I'm glad if people enjoy it so much though. It would make me very happy if, by some miracle, this was one of the best selling JRPGs of the generation. EDIT: Not because I have stock or anything. But because it would be great if this influenced some future RPG development.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Well, Monolithsoft is supposed to be making a WiiU and 3DS game, IIRC?
SecretMoblin
Member
The colours on this picture are amazing. Is there a desktop sized version?
I uploaded the original for you: http://i.minus.com/ibcoXgqcfeGFbb.png
Yeah, I think it's worthwhile to take a step back and put the hype in perspective. There are plenty of nitpicks here and there with the game; it's hardly "perfect", whatever that means. If folks go into this expecting some sort of mindblowing revelation and/or the saving grace for Japanese role-playing games, they're not going to be happy after 30 hours with the game.
The best advice I can give is for folks to accept the game's (and the system's) limitations, play it at their own pace, and try to get out of it whatever they can. It's a great game and it deserves a lot of love, but it's not above criticism.
Cerebral Assassin
Member
Not really(although I do enjoy sRPG's), but Oblivion is the only wRPG I have put any time into, so I'm probably not the best person to ask. I do disagree about the soundtrack however, it is pretty impressive (
the first time you arrive on the Bionis leg & you walk through the canyon & catch a glimpse of Gaur Plain & the music kicks in is one of my favourite memories in gaming
I'm sure this has been discussed more than likely in the Dolphin thread but thought I'd put it here too for the newcomers to Xenoblade.
There is some modders that have made HD texture packs and redid the UI for whatever controller you are using while playing on Dolphin. Game already looked amazing these mods just make it super amazing!
HUGE SPOILERS IN THREAD BEWARE
http://forums.dolphin-emulator.com/showthread.php?tid=22102
There is some modders that have made HD texture packs and redid the UI for whatever controller you are using while playing on Dolphin. Game already looked amazing these mods just make it super amazing!
HUGE SPOILERS IN THREAD BEWARE
http://forums.dolphin-emulator.com/showthread.php?tid=22102
dancrane212
Member
Fantastic to hear!
Starwolf_UK
Member
Oh yeah if you're going to play on dolphin please remember to save the game regularly as Dolphin is unstable (at least for me) and given how Xenoblade gives you the opportunity to save anywhere outside of a few exceptions (for those I suppose there is savestates).
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Definitely spoilers in that link as soon as the page loads.
And I don't like the texture pack. The fonts are worse, and the official artwork doesn't work very well, especially for the high tension portraits.
Only part that looks better apart from resolution is that ground texture. Edit: on second though, even that doesn't really look better. It makes the draw distance limit more obvious and probably looks terrible when you see the full game.
And I don't like the texture pack. The fonts are worse, and the official artwork doesn't work very well, especially for the high tension portraits.
Only part that looks better apart from resolution is that ground texture. Edit: on second though, even that doesn't really look better. It makes the draw distance limit more obvious and probably looks terrible when you see the full game.
PLEASE edit that post as soon as possible. You probably didn't pay attention, but not only is the HD reskin pretty awful, but there are also huge spoilers...
Empyrean Heaven
Member
Just noticed on Metacritic that basically every site has given this game universal praise. However, there's one biggy missing: G4. I can easily see them giving this game a lower score just to be jerks. I can even imagine what they would say...which is the sad thing
jump_button
Banned
Famitsu contains the readers top fifty Nintendo games of all time
1. Super Mario Bros. NES
2. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time N64
3. Super Mario 64 N64
4. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past SNES
5. Mother 2 SNES
6. Xenoblade Wii
full list here
if it not they must not had played it yet
good to see US are getting hype you should be
Yeah this is easily top 5 for me
Indeed...major spoilers.
I really have to agree with most everything else you said, chaosblade. Those fonts are just...bad. And could they not up the resolution for the portraits instead using the official artwork? (It's not bad art, but it hardly belongs in-game.)
The other stuff does look fairly nice though.
Sorry about that, didn't look through that thread entirely. Marked as spoilers in original post. I think the HD reskin looks great personally though, especially the updated character models and 2d character portraits.
I imported this game and finished it over the summer. Put about 130 hours into it and loved every second of it. I think I'm going to double dip and pick up the NA version again this Friday out of my support of love for the game/genre/cause, whatever. I have been tempted to jump back into my PAL save file and continue questing/100%'ing the game, but now I'm not sure if I should just start fresh with my NA copy. Regardless, I have other stuff on my plate that I've purchased that I haven't completed yet so maybe I'll just hold off a bit.
I will also echo the fellow RPG enthusiasts here on GAF and say Xenoblade probably wouldn't make my top 20 either. I enjoyed the game immensely, but I wouldn't say it's the "end all, be all RPG". It's up there, for sure. Easily one of the best RPGs this generation, but that's not something to be ultra proud about considering the choices we have this gen.
Regardless, enjoy the game for those who have yet to experience its majesty. It's definitely worth getting excited about! =)
I will also echo the fellow RPG enthusiasts here on GAF and say Xenoblade probably wouldn't make my top 20 either. I enjoyed the game immensely, but I wouldn't say it's the "end all, be all RPG". It's up there, for sure. Easily one of the best RPGs this generation, but that's not something to be ultra proud about considering the choices we have this gen.
Regardless, enjoy the game for those who have yet to experience its majesty. It's definitely worth getting excited about! =)
Gianni Merryman
Member
I've been playing this for a just a couple of days - some 20 hours already and I'm on the point of reaching
- and I feel I am starting to enjoy it; it takes a while to get accustomed to the complexity of the game's controls and customization options - and the maps are so huge I got lost quite often, but once you get into it the game is addicting and it was difficult to have a break.
On a side note I must admit some models in the cutscenes are just awful, but it doesn't bother me as long as everything else is nice and they put much work to make the game packed with contents.
the elevator leading to Colony 16 area
On a side note I must admit some models in the cutscenes are just awful, but it doesn't bother me as long as everything else is nice and they put much work to make the game packed with contents.
I dunno, I could see that being accurate depending on the person. If someone has played a significant amount of rpg's since the NES years, it's not hard to think that XenoBlade wouldn't make the top 20. Are we just talking jrpgs, console only rpgs, etc?
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
The only places that really NEED texture packs are those few places around the top of cliffs and "natural formation" bridges (especially in Makna Forest) where the texture is clearly stretched. Otherwise I thought the game looked pretty good for a Wii game, and great in Dolphin.
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