SafeinSound
Member
It's crazy reading how many hours people have put into this game and are no where near as far as I am. Not saying that's a bad thing, just mean that I definitely play differently than a lot of people in this thread.
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Xenoblade |OT| Sorry I Kept You Waiting!
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Holy shit I had so much trouble with the
in Sword Valley. I had to fight it like 4 or 5 times before I won, and I (presumably) only won the last time because I went into my arts and saw I could level stuff up a couple of times yet.
Aaaaand just realized that I didn't even have to fight it (I think). There was just a wall behind it and I thought it was blocking my path forward. -.-
Lightning Ronove
I was even level 54 fighting against it (I thought I was pretty overleveled as I had done a TON of questing before hand.
Aaaaand just realized that I didn't even have to fight it (I think). There was just a wall behind it and I thought it was blocking my path forward. -.-
This might be obvious, but I recently realized(only took 50 hours!) something with the battle system. When you queue an attack that gets a bonus based on where it hits, it will work even if it doesn't physically hit them there. So if I run up behind an enemy from the back and hit a backstab art, but someone else attacks normally and makes the enemy 180 around, the backstab bonus still happens even if the attack hits in the front. Pretty useful.
I was level 48 in that area. Only time I really felt underleveled...I had a lot of rough spots there, haha.
I was level 48 in that area. Only time I really felt underleveled...I had a lot of rough spots there, haha.
This is only for people who finished the game.
A nice video highlighting all the major moments in the game accompanied by the ending song Beyond the Sky.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4cefW8t0Ms&feature=related
Makes those memories come back again
A nice video highlighting all the major moments in the game accompanied by the ending song Beyond the Sky.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4cefW8t0Ms&feature=related
Makes those memories come back again
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I finished the game in 50 hours, supposedly that's crazy. :/
That is pretty fast, I barely did any side stuff and I had almost 70 hours. I will say though, I am someone who explores every corner of the map and looks for every tough enemy to kill and in Xenoblade I am pretty sure that can add quite a bit of time.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I loved the game to death, but I didn't even bother with the side quests... I was in for the beautiful world and story.
I was terribly under leveled at some point and I had to grind like 2 hours to win against a boss (it's the boss everyone bitches about)
This is only for people who finished the game.
A nice video highlighting all the major moments in the game accompanied by the ending song Beyond the Sky.
http://www.youtube.cm/watch?v=O4cefW8t0Ms&feature=related
Makes those memories come back again
That YouTube link is embedded by default if you're using the mobile site. Hopefully not too many people see the image.
Haha, that was sort of my point. I also didn't really do much side questing (only world exploration) and put in almost 70 hours. I've spent too much time with WoW after the past few years to stomach the blatantly grindy mmo-like side quests of Xenoblade unfortunately.
69 hours in now with my party at level 54, heading into
.
I think I just experienced the least enjoyable quest in the game so far in which you have to make it to the
. The actual fight once you get there isn't that bad but
Anybody else have difficulty with that part of the quest or was my timing just extraordinarily poor tonight? Also,
Is would this be considered "that one quest" or are there others in the later parts of the game that will be a pain beyond "collect these rare drops"?
The story events more than make up for that little quest at this point though;
In other news, I just got a five-star rating in
but the area obviously isn't complete yet; I still have some quests outstanding and I am getting some new ones as well. In effect, does the five-star rating actually signify anything is done (e.g. I've improved the affinity between all the residences as much as possible) or does it just mean that the affinity with the area is really high?
I'm still really enjoying the game at about the 70 hour mark even though I'm not yet done the story; the sidequest I mentioned above was definitely the lowest point in the game for me so far. Considering it doesn't happen until this far into the game and it's completely optional, I don't think that's too bad at all. I'm also a little disappointed in the reskinned enemies that appear; given all the nice touches like
and the nice designs that are given to even normal enemies, it would be nice to fight a set of unique monsters in each area. Even though the environments are so vast and different from each other, I find the formulaic parts (such as
) and the reskinned enemies to be somewhat of a letdown in comparison. I know that this occurs in a lot of RPGs and there are probably constraints in terms of disc space for the different enemies and whatnot but for all the great things that Xenoblade Chronicles does, it's a shame that so many enemies are reused throughout the different areas.
Sword Valley
I think I just experienced the least enjoyable quest in the game so far in which you have to make it to the
Antol Den in Valak Mountain
that jump is extremely difficult to make. The hole in the tube led me to believe that I was supposed to jump out there and I actually triggered the fight both times using that method—the first time I didn't make it to the ledge and the second my momentum incapacitated my party on landing. It probably took me three times longer than the fight itself to make it to the ledge.
I'm so glad that Riki accidentally opened the pod in which the Chilkin leader was hiding. I can't imagine what a pain it would have been to search the entire area for him; I had originally thought he would be hiding near whatever spot you said had a better view in the research quest.
The story events more than make up for that little quest at this point though;
the newest villain looks like a pretty big threat and Mumkhar—whose name I just asked for in the thread yesterday—is a pretty despicable person and a fun fight. I can't wait for the final battle with him; it will be a long time coming whenever I finally reach that point. I do wish the game would give me some more bosses that actually die when the fight is over though!
In other news, I just got a five-star rating in
Central Bionis
I'm still really enjoying the game at about the 70 hour mark even though I'm not yet done the story; the sidequest I mentioned above was definitely the lowest point in the game for me so far. Considering it doesn't happen until this far into the game and it's completely optional, I don't think that's too bad at all. I'm also a little disappointed in the reskinned enemies that appear; given all the nice touches like
glowing horns at night
"evil tribe in this area causing trouble for the village"
I'm convinced this game is terrible and you all have horrible taste in games. I just got to
. I was level 43, creatures started to catch up to me but it seemed like pretty even leveling. I basically gave up on side quests because they're all horrible kill/collect padding, even the more important side quests that add to story or
are just basic and bland kill/collect missions.
So I'm chugging along, and all of sudden there is this level jump in mobs and they all out level me 2-3 levels. That was a great sign of things to come because I finally reach
and he out levels me by 5 levels and I can't even manage to land topple during a chain attack because of all the misses. Oh boy.
So now it is back to grinding to play catch up, but combat isn't exactly a strong point for the game. It is a notch below mediocre honestly. The lack of control over your team is beyond frustrating. How am I supposed to feel when I wipe because my healer decided to run into melee range and stand in front of a cone attack that got her killed? Or when my other partners are spamming topple skills on things with no break, wasting their cool downs?
Yes, there is a lot of the game but most of it isn't anything special. You have to grind the affinity system to make good use of the skill trees and crafting is beyond tedious. I would hardly say this is the best JRPG of this generation. I'm starting to believe a good portion of the hype around this game was just from the fact it was a decent attempt at a AAA JRPG on the Wii and not another Just Dance game.
I managed to get up to around 44.5 before turning the game off out of pure boredom. I'll probably give the boss fight another try and hope to hell it isn't still a missfest so I can topple the bastard, but I'm not sure I can put up with grinding in this game and might just have to shelve it. Which is unfortunate because the plot is decently entertaining and I wanted to see it the whole way through.
Hopefully I can get over this hump but if not, I at least have Disgaea 3 on the way.
Valak Mountain
help rebuild Colony 6
So I'm chugging along, and all of sudden there is this level jump in mobs and they all out level me 2-3 levels. That was a great sign of things to come because I finally reach
Mumkhar
So now it is back to grinding to play catch up, but combat isn't exactly a strong point for the game. It is a notch below mediocre honestly. The lack of control over your team is beyond frustrating. How am I supposed to feel when I wipe because my healer decided to run into melee range and stand in front of a cone attack that got her killed? Or when my other partners are spamming topple skills on things with no break, wasting their cool downs?
Yes, there is a lot of the game but most of it isn't anything special. You have to grind the affinity system to make good use of the skill trees and crafting is beyond tedious. I would hardly say this is the best JRPG of this generation. I'm starting to believe a good portion of the hype around this game was just from the fact it was a decent attempt at a AAA JRPG on the Wii and not another Just Dance game.
I managed to get up to around 44.5 before turning the game off out of pure boredom. I'll probably give the boss fight another try and hope to hell it isn't still a missfest so I can topple the bastard, but I'm not sure I can put up with grinding in this game and might just have to shelve it. Which is unfortunate because the plot is decently entertaining and I wanted to see it the whole way through.
Hopefully I can get over this hump but if not, I at least have Disgaea 3 on the way.
Rush2thestart
Member
This is like the go-to line when it comes to trolling the Wii and its games.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
The stars themselves don't really mean anything, they are just a visual representation of your affinity with the area. There are a lot of cases where you might have enough stars for a quest to activate, but your actual affinity with the area is still slightly low.
And most areas in the game introduce some new types of enemies, though they do get recycled later usually. I think that area you were at was the first time you encounter slobos. The next area has
some new mechon enemies, and there is another new type a couple areas beyond that.
Bionis Interior
And regarding Alchemy, I don't see how you can end up so underleveled, especially if you're doing some quests and apparently grinding. I'm having the opposite problem and have temporarily disabled exp gaining altogether since I've been getting more and more overleveled without grinding and before I really even started focusing on quests.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Let me assure you, you're wrong.
So you're just saying that because you totally avoided side quests monsters started outleveling you? That's quite strange... I guess how this could happen :rolleye:
I avoided side quests as well (as pointed out a billion times by now I know, sorry) but I never really found myself under-leveled until the next to last dungeon of the game. In fact at one point I was over-leveled (specifically the part he just finished) and I had no freaking clue how since I was avoiding every sidequest. The only way I can imagine you ever get under-leveled is by not fighting everything you come across. If you constantly walk around enemies instead of rushing through them to attack you will clearly not level as fast (this is precisely why I was such a low level for the final dungeon).
I think I agree with a lot of his points (as pointed out earlier in the thread), but yeah I don't really consider the game mediocre in any stretch of the imagination. Above average, great, a fun time - adjectives I'd use to describe my experience, but certainly not mediocre. I am not sure I can fathom the thought of someone thinking this is mediocre compared to some other stuff to come out this gen like Infinite Undiscovery which is truly the appropriate game to slap a label such as mediocre onto. Tons of systems used once and never touched again, legitimately useless character crafting skills, convoluted combat mechanics not incorporated into the game at all. Things a real mediocre game actually has, but certainly not Xenoblade, at least all the mechanics make sense.
Probably like
10
MagicWithEarvin
Member
Shit, this game is the shit. Just started playing it and I'm in love with it already.
Well, guess I'll do that then. I just want to see the ending at this point
about 40 hours in...and im gonna guess
anyways this game has been great. if i were to complain about something, sometimes the camera gets outta wack when battling. also not really a fan of constant "future seeing" during battle. kinda ruins the flow of the game. wouldn't mind it if it was occasionally, but it's just too frequent for my liking.
dickson is going to be a dick and betray me? the way this guy has been acting has been extremeelyy shady. always knowing where i am, spying at me from corners? if so...fuck you dickson
anyways this game has been great. if i were to complain about something, sometimes the camera gets outta wack when battling. also not really a fan of constant "future seeing" during battle. kinda ruins the flow of the game. wouldn't mind it if it was occasionally, but it's just too frequent for my liking.
As you should, it's.... just so amazing. On a side note for you, though,
I don't believe there are many side quests left for you to do anyway (aside from those you've picked up already, obviously). Most of the last few hours is strictly story stuff with very few new side quests popping up.
Johnlenham
Member
I like running off and finding all the named mobs and messing them up. Only at the "leg" area mind you so that might get abit boring 30+ hours in.
yeah, at least with disgaea 3 you won't have to worry about all that mindless enemy-killing and level grinding!
Starwolf_UK
Member
Ether is the magic stat and healing spells are ether based so yes. Also you can see this in-game by comparing the HP healed in the art description with and without the gems.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
That's one of the things I'm doing on my playthrough, but it's my second one and I'm using a list to make sure I hit them all. I've killed nearly all of them up to level 65 or so (which, if you want a number, is
92 so far, of 157 total, excluding quest-specific enemies.
Honestly, I'm finding the majority of them extremely easy. It's nice when one poses a real threat, but the ones that are just ridiculously powerful (
Mischievious Naberius, Magestic Mordred
Jive Turkey
Unconfirmed Member
I'm 160+ hours in and that still hasn't gotten boring to me.
yes, that was my 1st thought too. Kinda disapointing... at least some of them were better than the original.
wow... I never realized that Oo and I spent at least over 200 hours with the game.
Do you still need that save file?
I got one right at that point befor the 2nd g. fight.
It's in Pal, so you would need to convert it though.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
Two hours in and I still haven't tried to do the main story yet after Reyn left my party. Just running around doing quests and making trades. The open field entices me to venture yonder @_@
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Satorl Marsh: Ice Elemental
Makna Forest: Fire Elemental
Eryth Sea: Lograt Kromar, Thunder Elemental
Valak Mountain: Slobos
Very late game area spoilers:
Bionis' Interior: Jelly Selua, Largo Selua, Chimai Selua
Prison Island: Earth/Ice/Fire/Wind/Thunder Elemental
Prison Island: Earth/Ice/Fire/Wind/Thunder Elemental
The google document has a list of all the Rank V gem drops.
Also, I think I found a glitch/bug that's kind of interesting. Maybe somebody can confirm, but twice I've survived attacks that should have killed me by activating a chain attack right as the enemy uses the attack.
In the first instance I wasn't really watching the numbers and I figured hey, maybe I just HAPPENED to get hit for an amount of damage that left me with 1HP. But then it happened again with an AoE attack that left two characters with 1HP, and the damage dealt should have been more than enough to kill me (Titan Stamp). Instead it let me start the chain attack. And no, I am not using Unbeatable gems.
Edit: And it looks like this is indeed the case and it also protects you from other things like topple and debuffs too. Now that I know about it I'm going to feel the need to take advantage of it...
Head of Vengarl
Banned
Melia's intro cutscene made me laugh a couple times as well.
"Hey Shulk, you're creeping this lady out!" Plus the scene right after where Reyn is giving Shulk a bunch of shit for his "imaginary friend." Hahaha.
Is there a certain threshold where we don't have to spoiler tag stuff? Like I know I've thrown out areas like the Bionis' Knee and character names like Sharla without censoring them -- is this wrong? I saw people mention the names Melia (who I just got in my last 10 minutes of playing last night) and Riki (no idea who he/she is). I don't really feel like knowing Melia's name in advance ruined anything for me, nor did knowing the names of general areas like the Bionis' Knee, Colony 6, etc. But if people want me to, I'll go back and spoiler tag stuff more rigidly.
That said, I'm excited to use Melia; I had to hit the sack last night before I got to use her in a battle. The pacing of her addition was perfect -- I was just starting to wonder when I'd get a new character to use. I also hear she's a little tricky to use effectively, so I'm curious to see how she works.
Thank you. I figured as much, since I haven't seen any "healing arts up" gems or anything.
Going further with gem questions...
What is better for Shulk/non-tanking Dunban: Atk Stability & Atk Plus, or just stacking Strength Up gems?
What is better for Reyn: HP Up, or stacking Muscle Up and Ether Def Up gems?
I completely over looked the gem section of the google doc, thanks.
Ahh, that happened to me once and just like you I thought I simply got lucky with 1hp. That is going to come in handy, nice find.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
I spoiler tag any area after Valak Mountain. And I don't really see a point in spoiler tagging Melia or Riki. I mean, both of them are in the game's manual as far as I remember.
With Dunban and Shulk (and really anybody except Reyn and Sharla) agility is great. Between attack improvement gems, they all basically just raise your average damage. Just use whatever increases it the most.
For Reyn, I'd user HP up first (HP helps against any enemy), then Muscle Up (most of the time defense is more important than ether defense). I'd only use ether defense gems on him if you're struggling against an enemy that's really hurting him with ether attacks.
Speaking of defense, I generally use light or low weight medium armor on pretty much every character except Reyn until you unlock things that would make other setups more beneficial. Reyn gets whatever has the best defense, and Dunban always gets light armor.
According to an analyst firm, Xenoblade Chronicles is expected to be the third best selling title for April! The article states that Mass Effect 3 and Prototype 2 took the top two spots on the software chart. We'll have to wait until May 10 for April's NPD info
http://gamasutra.com/view/news/1697...urn_to_alternative_entertainment__analyst.php
http://gamasutra.com/view/news/1697...urn_to_alternative_entertainment__analyst.php
Hahaha, unreal. April must be a very bad month for Xenoblade to be up there.
StAidan
Member
Man. As much as I'm enjoying this game, this news is really surprising. But if true, it's probably enough to justify the U.S. release, considering how minimal the localization effort must have been.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Same. 200k would probably be really nice for Nintendo given how little effort they put into the release.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
I still can't believe NoA didn't see the potential for this game from the get go, it really is a wonderfully made game.
You can't blame them, it's a risky game. Ignoring the fact JRPGs are pretty niche over here anyway it's a "real" game on the Wii. The perception is that gamers as a whole don't care about their Wiis anymore and then asking them to buy a JRPG? Hah.
I probably would of made a similar decision if I were in their shoes.
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