Stock Android might not be pretty, but it is faster and lighter than customizations.
Xperia Z1 leaks before September 4th introduction
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Stock Android might not be pretty, but it is faster and lighter than customizations.
vivftp
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Juding by the Xperia Z Ultra, it seems just as fast as stock Android phones I've seen. Anyone able to confirm? Sonys UI is very light, so it doesn't seem to slow things down much at all.
SirMossyBloke
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I agree about stock, it is really ugly. Sony's seems to be a nice middle ground. Looks great, and seems fast too. With 4.3 on it and it's specs it should be lightning fast. I doubt putting stock on it is gonna make it faster.
Yep. Sony's UI runs pretty smooth most of the times, I've seen it on Xperia Sola and U, which are both low end devices, so I expect the Z to run faster. At least it's not like Samsung's.
JordanLMiller
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Disjointed appearance between apps is a plus? How many Sony handsets are not running the latest version of the operating system due to the skin?
On my Xperia V, my partners z ultra and my old, now dead HTC one I never notice any ui lag. On my temporary s4 on the other hand ....
Sony's isn't bad but when I've played with the Z I've still noticed stutter say when opening the multitasking or going into the app drawer.
Matt_
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yes.
Good stuff, my upgrade comes in November so hopefully Vodafone UK carries this like they did with the Z
Arondight
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Yeah, I'm planning to either get this or the Iphone this year. Love the design. Bezels for the white phone should be pure white and not a mix of black in the front though since it really doesn't look that great which is why the black Xperia Z1 looks a little better. Really want to see the sample pictures from the camera as well.
zephervack
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So this phone has a bigger sensor than a Canon S100??? Thats just.... Wow
Hope it comes to Canada before year's end
Hope it comes to Canada before year's end
...no
zomgbbqftw
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This will be on T-Mobile before Black Friday.
SirMossyBloke
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HTC One.
If you want a great camera, Lumia 1020 would be a smart choice. It has plenty of apps, great build quality and simply the best camera out there. Plus, it won't feel outdated next year.
True, it'll feel outdated this year.
Dude should get HTC One or Xperia Z1. Z1 being the better choice.
SirMossyBloke
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He said preferably less than 5", so it wouldn't be the better choice.
True, didn't notice that. Then HTC One is really the only flagship phone out there for that size. Also Xperia ZL, because while i'ts 5 inches it's also smaller than many phones with smaller screens.
If he's considering overall size of the phone, the HTC One might not be suitable. Depends what he means. Although the HTC on is slimmer and smaller than the Xperia Z by a bit, and i slimmer than a GS4,
1020 hardware is still solid.
It has a 1280x768p screen, dual core Krait, adreno 225 GPU, 2000mAh battery. It is solid, but those are specs of a mid-end phone, while it's supposed to be a flagship phone. All the money probably went to the camera, which is a awesome piece of tech. To be fair, the specs are more than adequate for whatever people want to do with it.
Though I thought it would be at least rocking a Snapdragon 600 when it's coming this late compared to it's competitors, which all have released their flagship phones for quite a while already.
Lumia 1020 has a 720p screen, with a dualcore S4 processor which, while solid, is nowhere near the flagship status of today's phones. Add to that an OS that lacks the most basic official apps like facebook, gmail or youtube and you've got yourself an awesome portable camera that can make calls and browse the net but not an excellent phone.
The Faceless Master
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but reception, call quality and battery life are great, how is it not an excellent phone?
The Faceless Master
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Nexus 4. now just $199
To be fair we both know that when it comes to picking a phone reception and call quality are a given and you're looking at all the smart features that the phone can offer for you. So I realise you're trying to nitpick what I said, but given the context my statement still works.
Even Sony's mid-end phones has better specs than Nokia's flagship Lumia 1020.
The Sony Xperia SP is quite the decent phone. It's cheap and powerful. It has a faster and newer Qualcomm Snapdragon S4Pro Krait, running at 1.7Ghz and Adreno "Motherfucking" 320! Which is only found in Snapdragon S4 Pro and Snapdragon 600 SoC's. Battery is also quite a bit larger at 2370 mAh. Screensize is 4.6 inch with a resolution of 720p. The only shit thing is the screen, which has bad viewing angles. But other than that, the specs are VERY respectable, if not downright great for a relatively cheap mid-end phone.
The Sony Xperia SP is quite the decent phone. It's cheap and powerful. It has a faster and newer Qualcomm Snapdragon S4Pro Krait, running at 1.7Ghz and Adreno "Motherfucking" 320! Which is only found in Snapdragon S4 Pro and Snapdragon 600 SoC's. Battery is also quite a bit larger at 2370 mAh. Screensize is 4.6 inch with a resolution of 720p. The only shit thing is the screen, which has bad viewing angles. But other than that, the specs are VERY respectable, if not downright great for a relatively cheap mid-end phone.
Kiraly
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Plus it has dat aluminium coldness feel
And the 3.5mm headphone jack doesn't need a cover either IIRC.
Awesome job at bending the truth. Stop hiding behind the word "official".
The Facebook app is official and basically identical feature-wise, and that's ignoring the fact that it has a lot of Facebook's functionality built into the hubs (Having Facebook events and birthdays in my calendar is awesome. Messaging built into the messaging hub is great. Etc.)
Gmail might not have an official app, but since it's built into e-mail, it works like a charm. I use Gmail as my main e-mail provider and I don't have any problems.
There are several superior 3rd party apps for Youtube out there. The fact that there's no official one currently is because Google is fucking around.
I'm a WP user, I'm an internet/FB/Youtube addict, and if any of the services you mention weren't usable, I would've thrown away this phone years ago.
That's the key bit imo. I find it surprising that people will say have a go at WP for not rocking quad core and lots of RAM when the iPhone is the same bar their GPU being miles ahead.
Facebook is there, YouTube was until Google threw its toys out of the pram and as for GMail I've never seen the need to use more than the default client over a specific app.
The screen is still great quality regardless of the resolution, the S4 still ticks along nicely on the WP platform too. Another thing I find odd, specs seemed to matter so much then the Moto X came along and people then rationalise it and make it sound awesome.
And I forgot, it also has a expandable Micro SD slot, pretty cool notification leds which also reacts to pictures you watch (like Philips Ambi light tech in their TVs) and moves with your music etc. and also has NFC.
You'll have your personal disco with you at all times!
iPhone 5 is a year old and still crazy fast. Lumia 1020 has yet to be released. iPhone 5S' performance is gonna obliterate everything until whatever Samsung is gonna use next in S5, next-gen Snapdragon beyoned 800 series and or their own Exynos series.
Also Moto X is rocking the same CPU as 1020, but the upgraded Pro version which has a higher clockspeed and a way faster Adreno 320. The battery is bigger too! Moto X has the better specs and is way cheaper than the Lumia 1020 ever will be.
It really comes down to whether you really want the 41MP camera and/or the Windows 8 OS.
Speedy Blue Dude
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I don't see why specs are a problem on the 1020, considering the specs are fine, they may not be top tier like certain android phones, but they aren't awful.
I haven't noticed a problem with my 1020, everything runs fast and quick, regardless of only having a dual core. Apps run fine and the phone is perfect at handling multitasking, I haven't had a single problem. Battery life is fine, even if it's only 2000 mHz, this phone actually last me a good 10 hours of regular use before it has to be charged, which I think is pretty solid. Battery consumption is non-existent from internet browsing and music listening.
I find the mid tier specs to not be a problem, and If I have mud tier specs for this top tier camera, well, it's well worth it.
and the screen? This OLED screen is beautiful and high quality, may only be 768p, but it looks fantastic and is the best phone I've ever used outside in the sunlight.
I would recommend this phone, not sure why you guys are knocking it, guy asked for recommendations and he was recommended a fantastic Windows Phone, one that doesn't feel outdated to me yet, and doesn't seem to be feeling outdated, If THESE are the phones being released as flagships this year and next year. Well, I still need to see what Apple is bringing to the table.
Anton Sugar
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Uh, there are actually two official Facebook apps (the original, which has been available for years at this point, and the new version which is in "beta" but is pretty much feature-equal to the iOS/Android versions), and Youtube has been available for months (not to mention the great third party offerings). Is a Gmail app really necessary?
Oh, I get it now--you guys are literally trying to not know what you're talking about.
You can't really compare specs of a WP vs iOS/Android unless you're specifically talking about resource-intensive games and apps. WP is a lightweight OS comparatively.
It has been released? My bad, if it did. I'm in Europe and couldn't find anything about it's price or whatsoever. Probably because it hasn't been released in Europe at all. Unless whatever i've said about it's specs are incorrect, please feel free to correct me.
Nowhere in any of my posts did I knock the Lumia 1020. I simply said the specs aren't really that of a flagship phone and other phones has a better SoC inside, which are facts. I even said the specs are more than adequate.
Anton Sugar
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Didn't realize you were talking about Europe, my bad.
As for specs, I've never really understood the discussion unless you're talking about speed to complete a specific task. Yes, absolutely, 1020 has mid-range specs. Yes, I wouldn't mind if it had higher-end specs and a 1080p screen. The lack of these things does not impact the usability or value of the phone for me, because the OS is still stupid smooth/fast with its current specs.
I'm not trying to shit up this thread, it just bothers me when people (not necessarily you, gogogow) criticize without doing any homework.
Speedy Blue Dude
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Not you.
Here I'll quote the posts I was referring to when I said "You guys", my mistake as it seems they were made by the same guy. The Lumia is out and is also be crazy fast considering it's the same internals (bar more RAM) as the 920/925/928.
True the Moto X has that Pro version but what benefit is it bringing really?
And I forgot, it also has a expandable Micro SD slot, pretty cool notification leds which also reacts to pictures you watch (like Philips Ambi light tech in their TVs) and moves with your music etc. and also has NFC.
You'll have your personal disco with you at all times!
iPhone 5 is a year old and still crazy fast. Lumia 1020 has yet to be released. iPhone 5S' performance is gonna obliterate everything until whatever Samsung is gonna use next in S5, next-gen Snapdragon beyoned 800 series and or their own Exynos series.
Also Moto X is rocking the same CPU as 1020, but the upgraded Pro version which has a higher clockspeed and a way faster Adreno 320. The battery is bigger too! Moto X has the better specs and is way cheaper than the Lumia 1020 ever will be.
It really comes down to whether you really want the 41MP camera and/or the Windows 8 OS.
holy shit. that LED notification just sold me on this phone
Matt_
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Woah really? Great news, constantly listen to music on my phone and would probably end up breaking whatever cover is on it
Performance on WP8 does not depend on the biggest processor, it runs just fine, and the camera is truly something else.
Well, speaking generally, having a better CPU and GPU is always better as these OS' are constantly evolving and demands faster CPU's and of course apps also requires higher specs and more memory. If you don't care about 3D games then sure, it doesn't matter that much. If all you use is Whatsapp, Twitter, Facebook etc. But people always complain about snappiness, gaming performances etc. I do think it's less of a problem for a closed system like iOS and W8. But phones aren't just for calling anymore, they are multifunctional and these companies has to think about all the stuff potential customers might do with it, watching full hd videos, playing CPU/GPU intensive games, multitaksing. Or even shooting 4K movies, like this thread's phone can do, i1 Honami. I'm not saying it's important for every single person getting a smartphone, but someone might consider it being important.
zomgbbqftw
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Probably Dragontrail glass like on other Xperia devices.
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