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Yooka-Laylee Toybox being released for applicable backers today
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I've downloaded the Toybox and all but it just doesn't work. Another guy in Reddit seems to have the same problem as I.
Some random shots:
First impression is quite good. Obviously it's on the rough side with models, movement (especially swimming) and animation. The moveset is a very basic set consisting of jumps, double jumps, spring jump, hover, rolling, tail whip, and a ground pound. For swimming there's only dive and rise. You have to look in specific places to find all the quills, some are not easy to reach and require a bit of skills. The toybox bot also provides us with typical Rare humor.
Took me about a hour to collect 100 quills. While I have the toybox+, I have no idea what it unlocks. Visual effects and music is what makes this very enjoyable to play around with. I stumbled a bit with the controls, groundpounding where I wanted to use a spring jump. Hovering is somewhat awkward as well, multiple times I double jumped where I wanted that extra air time.
As with Bloodstained it shows a lot of promise and gets the feeling right, even though it's still unpolished. I'm not sure if there's enough there to keeping playing in the toybox. I'll probably go through it once again on a bigger screen.
Played using a steamcontroller. I hope this post is somewhat useful to you guys.
First impression is quite good. Obviously it's on the rough side with models, movement (especially swimming) and animation. The moveset is a very basic set consisting of jumps, double jumps, spring jump, hover, rolling, tail whip, and a ground pound. For swimming there's only dive and rise. You have to look in specific places to find all the quills, some are not easy to reach and require a bit of skills. The toybox bot also provides us with typical Rare humor.
Took me about a hour to collect 100 quills. While I have the toybox+, I have no idea what it unlocks. Visual effects and music is what makes this very enjoyable to play around with. I stumbled a bit with the controls, groundpounding where I wanted to use a spring jump. Hovering is somewhat awkward as well, multiple times I double jumped where I wanted that extra air time.
As with Bloodstained it shows a lot of promise and gets the feeling right, even though it's still unpolished. I'm not sure if there's enough there to keeping playing in the toybox. I'll probably go through it once again on a bigger screen.
Played using a steamcontroller. I hope this post is somewhat useful to you guys
.Holy shit, my only complaint was the crazy turning whilst you're rolling. Everything else was just what I wanted. =D
I expect the camera to be fixed and animations to be added. That and a ledge grab move for sure.
Cannot WAIT for the full release and am so glad I backed this. I have as much confidence in this game as I did Shovel Knight.
I expect the camera to be fixed and animations to be added. That and a ledge grab move for sure.
Cannot WAIT for the full release and am so glad I backed this. I have as much confidence in this game as I did Shovel Knight.
Garrett 2U
Member
Damn, I wish I could increase my backer amount.
I didn't know the Toybox was a thing,
I didn't know the Toybox was a thing,
It's possible to get up to the top here, right? Because I'm only missing two quills.
Yes,
shift the camera at the left corner.
Reluctant-Hero
Member
Strange, now I cant get back into ball mode with option enabled. Using an XBO Pro controller.
electroflame
Member
It's possible to get up to the top here, right? Because I'm only missing two quills.
Yeah, those were my last two quills as well.
There's a platform hidden behind the back wall. You've just got to jump/glide around to it.
Gotta say this was a really good first impression for a game still in alpha. I already love the music, sound effects, and character moves. It completely nails the feel of being like Banjo-Kazooie.
Here's a few things that I thought could have been better:
-- Underwater controls. Yooka will ascend or descend too quickly just by pressing a button, whereas I wanted to keep him at a steady level.
-- The camera when jumping into or out of the water was jarring.
-- I didn't care for the peripheral vision while underwater either since its blurriness got distracting.
-- Don't like how Laylee will stop gliding if I collide with some geometry. Had that happen a lot with the seesaws near the top of the map.
-- This doesn't matter too much since I will be playing this on PS4, but I was confused when I started the demo as to why I was always in the ball form and couldn't do a normal walk. I found out that I needed to activate a menu option for users that use Windows 10 and an Xbox One controller to fix it.
-- Ball rolling physics are pretty tedious too. Not sure if it was just to demo that or if pushing things are part of the main game, but I feel like character movement needs to change to accommodate this. Best comparison I can think of is how Conker was context sensitive when trying to push things in Bad Fur Day, and would put his arms around it and give greater control.
Pretty much everything else was great though. I really love the basic feel of the characters so far. Also this easter egg gave me a good chuckle.
Thank you! Getting 100 Quills didn't give me trouble but that almost drove me insane!
Here's a few things that I thought could have been better:
-- Underwater controls. Yooka will ascend or descend too quickly just by pressing a button, whereas I wanted to keep him at a steady level.
-- The camera when jumping into or out of the water was jarring.
-- I didn't care for the peripheral vision while underwater either since its blurriness got distracting.
-- Don't like how Laylee will stop gliding if I collide with some geometry. Had that happen a lot with the seesaws near the top of the map.
-- This doesn't matter too much since I will be playing this on PS4, but I was confused when I started the demo as to why I was always in the ball form and couldn't do a normal walk. I found out that I needed to activate a menu option for users that use Windows 10 and an Xbox One controller to fix it.
-- Ball rolling physics are pretty tedious too. Not sure if it was just to demo that or if pushing things are part of the main game, but I feel like character movement needs to change to accommodate this. Best comparison I can think of is how Conker was context sensitive when trying to push things in Bad Fur Day, and would put his arms around it and give greater control.
Pretty much everything else was great though. I really love the basic feel of the characters so far. Also this easter egg gave me a good chuckle.
There's a dip in framerate when you get to the very top of the map. The NPC then blames it on the game's artists. hahaha
Thank you! Getting 100 Quills didn't give me trouble but that almost drove me insane!
illusionary
Member
Excellent to see this coming out today... I'd pretty much assumed at this point that we'd not get the ToyBox until August. I've got the game downloaded and while I'll not have time to explore it fully today (that'll wait for the weekend, not long now), it's very encouraging to see that from a quick foray into the ToyBox I'm getting a steady 60fps out of my GTX 965M at 1080p/"fantastic". I look forward to giving this some more time over the weekend!
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I officially give this shit a Banjo Kazooie as fuck/10
right down to the transition sounds between dialog boxes
right down to the transition sounds between dialog boxes
Ultimadrago
Member
Man, the roll jumping is excellent.
The platforming camera, on the other hand, is straight BOOTY. Fix that ish. The swimming controls could also use some work.
All in all, I'm digging it.
The platforming camera, on the other hand, is straight BOOTY. Fix that ish. The swimming controls could also use some work.
All in all, I'm digging it.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
and whats with that blurry ass camera effect? Remove that shit Not-Rare!
balladofwindfishes
Member
I kind of wish the water controls were Banjo-Kazooie style. These are taking some time to get used to.
I still keep mashing A to move forward.
I still keep mashing A to move forward.
Just finished it. Unfortunately the config tool refused to open so I was stuck playing it at a zoomed in and pixelated resolution with nearly no shadows, but I still went ahead and collected all those quills anyway!
I wish the double jump went just a little higher, it's pretty annoying to have to do the "double jump + wait for float to raise you half an inch" thing, and Laylee falling out of the sky whenever you touch the wall doesn't help. Other than that though I liked it a lot. Having the roll move be a bit slippery is strange at first but ultimately good because it speeds you up, but unlike Kazooie's Talon Trot it doesn't make the base movement option feel totally worthless. And of course, the writing still has that Rare charm, nice to see they're still taking potshots at Microsoft even with the NPCs.
I wish the double jump went just a little higher, it's pretty annoying to have to do the "double jump + wait for float to raise you half an inch" thing, and Laylee falling out of the sky whenever you touch the wall doesn't help. Other than that though I liked it a lot. Having the roll move be a bit slippery is strange at first but ultimately good because it speeds you up, but unlike Kazooie's Talon Trot it doesn't make the base movement option feel totally worthless. And of course, the writing still has that Rare charm, nice to see they're still taking potshots at Microsoft even with the NPCs.
Just that and a triple button attack but its not working for me.
It's super finnicky and you can only trigger the additional hits if you hit enemies with the attack.
Kyleripman
Member
So I've collected 93 quills - is there a particularly well hidden cache of them that is harder to find? I feel like I've explored pretty well.
edit: okay got 98. and i already got the 2 hidden at the beginning
aaand got it. That is some damn satisfying platforming.
edit: okay got 98. and i already got the 2 hidden at the beginning
aaand got it. That is some damn satisfying platforming.
Salty Hippo
Member
Gliding is too long and too generous in how straight you go. Does Laylee have a propeller up her ass?
Swimming is just tolerable enough, should have the same feel and weight that B-K has.
Camera needs a ton of work.
Other than that I thought it was great. Controls are responsive. Traversal is quick and fun. Level design will be key though, and it's impossible to judge that based on a such a basic (understandably) sandbox.
I don't think grab ledge should be added to the final the game, to me it kinda defeats the purpose of a platformer. Leave that shit for games like Uncharted.
Swimming is just tolerable enough, should have the same feel and weight that B-K has.
Camera needs a ton of work.
Other than that I thought it was great. Controls are responsive. Traversal is quick and fun. Level design will be key though, and it's impossible to judge that based on a such a basic (understandably) sandbox.
I don't think grab ledge should be added to the final the game, to me it kinda defeats the purpose of a platformer. Leave that shit for games like Uncharted.
Dynamite Shikoku
Congratulations, you really deserve it!
This looks awesome
SparksterMeta0
Member
Welp....
I'M SOLD!
Definitely have that Banjo-Kazooie feel, which was obvious enough in the trailers. Just fix up the camera controls, and it'll be perfect.
I'M SOLD!
Definitely have that Banjo-Kazooie feel, which was obvious enough in the trailers. Just fix up the camera controls, and it'll be perfect.
Aceshighhhh
Member
Is there any sort of hidden meaning in the
?
particle effects room
Loved the toybox so much, can't remember genuinely smiling while playing a game for a number of years.
The only issue, and it's a tiny one, is that I think the rolling is too fast. Had quite a bit of trouble initially getting up the tall tower with the slides.
Can't wait for the full game.
The only issue, and it's a tiny one, is that I think the rolling is too fast. Had quite a bit of trouble initially getting up the tall tower with the slides.
Can't wait for the full game.
Don't believe so, it's just supposed to be cool.
Oh man. I managed to extract all of the audio files from the Toybox. Currently listening to the 2 music tracks from the game on loop. If you want to do it for yourself, just follow this guide from reddit.
Linkstrikesback
Member
No, think that and the other hidden room where you can see the
Different floor textures like ice, snow. Etc
Where's the
floor texture room?
Thought I had found everything but obviously not...
works perfectly on my old macbook air too
Salty Hippo
Member
You can control the speed of rolling with the analog stick.
There's a switch halfway through the huge slider.
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
I had this problem as well. Click back into the address bar and press enter it should automatically fix the link and send you to the correct page.
InternHertz
Member
Pretty much me too.
Turning while rolling felt weird, I had to retry the tower climb a few times.
Also had a bit of trouble, but much less so, with swimming. It's not broken but I hope for more smoothness.
Third thing is that you kinda stop and fall when you're touching a vertical surface while hovering, I wish for that to change.
Other than that, it's veeeery good. Pumped for the full release.
TheDinoman
Member
Camera issues, eh? Sounds like a 90s era platforming game.
Really wished I backed this.
Really wished I backed this.
mntorankusu
Member
Does it bother anyone else that Yooka is the one who makes a sound when you do a double jump? At first I was confused, because the sound made it seem like Yooka was double jumping without any help, but the animation is clearly Laylee grabbing on and flying upward a bit.
Woffls
Member
Minor issues:
- Camera is a bit dodgy around walls, and behaves that way around really low walls as well where normal camera would be fine.
- Ledge grab would be reeaaalll nice, but that might be because it's more difficult to judge distance when you're just jumping between geometric shapes
- Going into a backflip while running could do with a little slide rather than stopping right away. Like it was in BK, incidentally.
- Sliding down that V shape slope doesn't center you towards the middle quick enough (at all?) and just feels annoying.
- My GPU utilisation is higher when in the background than when playing.
- Pushing that ball was not at all fun. Make it easier or just remove those puzzles.