You know what grinds my gears?

Are Fanboys or Haters worse?

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Soodanim said:
Anyone that takes PCMR more seriously than they should has missed the joke, which is... unfortunate.

Never understood fanboyism. Or more to the point, how anyone can lack the self awareness to think their opinion is fact.
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The problem is that it's not a joke to a lot of people and it's only gotten worse as PC gaming has become more mainstream.

The bolded is the real problem. Enjoying a platform is fine but when people thinking that only their opinion matters is the problem. Especially when somebody else's choice of platform doesn't affect you in the slightest.
 
hououinkyouma00 said:
The problem is that it's not a joke to a lot of people and it's only gotten worse as PC gaming has become more mainstream.

The bolded is the real problem. Enjoying a platform is fine but when people thinking that only their opinion matters is the problem. Especially when somebody else's choice of platform doesn't affect you in the slightest.
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Yeah, some PC folks (keyword: some. not a lot) come across as really believing they are part of the "master race". It's weird.
 
Haters, easily.

Art and hobbies should be a source of joy and an escape from the drudgery of mundane life. Fanboys are at least still finding some of that joy and wonder in gaming, even if they have lost perspective or are expressing their passion in an obnoxious way.

Haters, on the other hand, are mostly an emotional vacuum, empty inside and desperate to suck the enjoyment out of gaming for everyone around them.

Now, this isn't true of all fanboys or all haters. Some fanboys seem more like unpaid corporate soldiers than actual fans, letting themselves be shipped out for another tour of duty, having long ago lost any actual love for the thing they're fighting for, and I've encountered some truly joyful haters who understand that criticism is an art and who obviously put a lot of effort into making their critiques incisive or scathing or funny. But there are a lot of people in gaming who are either just miserable cunts or who got sucked into some ragebait rabbithole and who are, like, legitimately and visibly deranged and in pain, and that's just fucking sad, honestly.
 
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Both suck but I think fanboys are far worse.

Nothing turns me off of a game faster than seeing some fanboy desperately trying to run damage control, going line by line trying to "refute" a negative review, whining about perceived unfairness from the gaming community/press/whatever.

Haters are annoying but I can take that in stride. Sometimes a good hate rant can be hilarious even if I disagree with the sentiment.
 
DonkeyPunchJr said:
Both suck but I think fanboys are far worse.

Nothing turns me off of a game faster than seeing some fanboy desperately trying to run damage control, going line by line trying to "refute" a negative review, whining about perceived unfairness from the gaming community/press/whatever.

Haters are annoying but I can take that in stride. Sometimes a good hate rant can be hilarious even if I disagree with the sentiment.
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lol....this is kind of like one of those "which is the worst way to die" conversations. There really isn't a wrong answer.
 
You know, I'm gonna go with fanboys.

Haters can be justified in their criticisms and will promote change if something is objectively bad.

Fanboys can be blind followers and accept anything that's given to them, without question. This can be a slippery slope, never promoting growth or improvement.
 
Topher said:
Yeah, some PC folks (keyword: some. not a lot) come across as really believing they are part of the "master race". It's weird.
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To embrace being a hater in me... ...there are a few that have not even purchased their gaming PC yet that have become part of the master race. 😜
 
Fess said:
Fans who focus on the positive aspects of something they love are great. I mean, seriously who doesn't like positive people? Well, besides the salty "Stop having fun!" folks of course.

I've had some of the most rewarding talks in OTs here. Like the Starfield OT for example, the early days were awesome. But I also had roughly 100 of those "Stop having fun!" people on ignore during the same time period.

So I guess haters get my vote here.
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Enthusiasm can definitely be infectious.

Thing is, when I think of fanboys, I think of the ones who are hypersensitive to any negativity, like their personal identity and self worth are related to some game/company.

A fanboy is someone who will look at a game with 85 Metacritic and go find the one review that gave it a 5/10 trying to find reasons why that review should be disqualified.

I've been on the fence about a game before, and been swayed in its favor by fans really loving and enjoying the shit out of it. I have never been swayed by someone getting all defensive trying to deflect criticism away.

Honestly that kind of behavior just makes me want to troll and push their buttons because they're acting like a little bitch.
 
Both. F haters for their toxic negativity, and F fanboys for their toxic positivity. None shall pass!


Cynicism flows freely, a wellspring of ease. Yet, the waters of optimism, though harder won, bloom with a loveliness that nourishes the soul.

- Google Gemini
 
DonkeyPunchJr said:
A fanboy is someone who will look at a game with 85 Metacritic and go find the one review that gave it a 5/10 trying to find reasons why that review should be disqualified.

I've been on the fence about a game before, and been swayed in its favor by fans really loving and enjoying the shit out of it. I have never been swayed by someone getting all defensive trying to deflect criticism away.

Honestly that kind of behavior just makes me want to troll and push their buttons because they're acting like a little bitch.
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It goes both ways. A fanboy can also be one who go out searching for that 5/10 score for the 85 Metacritic game on a platform they don't like/own and then try to convince people that it's the only true review and the rest are false. I have no understanding for such behavior. Why not go away and talk about a game you actually like instead?

The out of the ordinary negative impressions are almost always about something else than the actual game. Politics, woke, anti-woke, exclusivity and platform war, price, developer history, unrealistic expectations, etc.

Super positive impressions are usually about more than the actual game as well. We all fall into that trap and start screaming 10/10 and GOTY too soon when a game is better than we expected and when hype is at the highest.
How many actual 10/10 games are there?
 
You know who I hate more? Self righteous activists who are skipping Switch 2 to fight greedy Nintendo as if somehow this makes them better than everyone else, fuck off you spend more money on way worse shit and add money to revenue of way worse companies.
 
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Plies said:
No one cares.
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You cared enough to reply, and now I will 2000s forum own you by screenshotting your n00b post just in case you even consider deleting it.

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All fanboys are haters, but not all haters are fanboys. This makes fanboys objectively worse than haters because they are both. Bootlicking for corporations that don't care about them while defending every greedy and anti-consumer decision said corporation makes, and simultaneously making sure to throw mud at anything remotely resembling competition. That's way worse than just haters.
 
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Fanboys are WAY worse. A hater is, by definition, a broken watch... and evena broken watch is right one or wo times a day, which means he/she may be right about something. A fanboy, by definition is a blind and deaf idiot, incapable of understanding anything that maybe put his/her favorite brand in a imaginy disadvantage.
 
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I voted Fanboys because sometimes.... actually most times haters are actually fans of the same thing but Fanboys can't take them speaking out about their platform.
 
March Climber said:
I rank them by contribution.

Fanboys will provide the following:
  • Game tips/guides
  • Community
  • Memes
  • Fan art
  • Cosplays
All of this in exchange for the negative of defending a game to death, no matter how bad it may be.

What do haters contribute in exchange? I need a list.

All I can think of are jokes, but that's still a ratio of 5:1.
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the toxic positivity of fanboys needs to be counteracted by the toxic negativity of haters. otherwise the world loses balance!
 
Haters are worse.

Fanboys are fun people 1 on 1.

Haters are angry people and their hate manifests in more ways than just internet jousting. Nobody wants to hang around a hater for long. People cling to fanboys just to be around someone who stands for something. Patriotism is being a fanboy.

Fans are social haters are anti-social. There have been millennia of rap songs written about this. Did you not hear those?
 
Oh, haters, definitely. They are miserable people, trying to drag other people down to their level. (I'm assuming we're defining "hater" carefully here, not just slapping the word on anyone who criticizes our precious. That's not being a hater. A "hater" has a chronic, personality/interpersonal problem.)

Fanboys are just silly delusional people who get carried away with their favorite game or console. They usually range between slightly annoying and funny. I'm okay with most fanboys, at least until they start taking over discussions and derailing everything into console wars nonsense.
 
hououinkyouma00 said:
The problem is that it's not a joke to a lot of people and it's only gotten worse as PC gaming has become more mainstream.

The bolded is the real problem. Enjoying a platform is fine but when people thinking that only their opinion matters is the problem. Especially when somebody else's choice of platform doesn't affect you in the slightest.
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Honestly, I rarely interpret PCMR posts as jokes.
 
Pretentious neutrals are what i hate most. Fanboys will always exist but people trying to hide whats fairly obvious is annoying.
 
i just can't imagine hating something enough to spew a word salad that nobody fucking reads. if i don't like something, i don't have to post everything to feel validated
 
Plies said:
What is a bigger plague to the forums, fanboys or haters?
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If you remove fanboys and haters, GAF would be empty. 75% of the fun of gaming forums is to shitpost in such a way, that the mods don't see/care for it while also pissing off everyone (hater and fanboy alike).
 
To me: Fanboys, easily.
Haters generally have a point buried somewhere under a pile of rubbish, it can just be hard to decipher.

But fanboys will take even the mildest of takes and the simplest of facts as a personal offense, making any kind of rational debate impossible from the get-go.
It's that same vibe you get when having to talk to a fanatically religious person.
Eg: Try telling some VR fanboys that their hobby is a niche (albeit one big enough to support both consumers and producers). Good luck.

Though both tend be the kind of people that will ultimately defend any standpoint as "just an opinion" once running out of arguments, fully ignoring that opinions are not made equal and some are based on hallucinations, while others are based on actual facts (or at least closer to them).
 
Haters.

Pure and simple.

Morons that go into threads for systems/games they don't like purely to derail and piss all over the shop.
 
Fanboys. Fanboys love everything regardless. Haters normally at least have some good reason(s) to hate something.

hououinkyouma00 said:
Yeah, thats the problem. I really think most of them have an inferiority/superiority complex.

Like on one hand you have the funny fanboy trolling that DAHGAMING DAHGAMING used to do, and then we have Rodrigolf.
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Looks like you don't even understand what PCMR meme and superiority complex are. 🤷‍♂️
 
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El Muerto said:
Fanboys chimp out against those who like the other console, especially after there's a article with bad news. Haters are critical of the company and their games, which is fine.
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Being critical is not being a hater.

To me, haters are a destructive force, nothing more.

There are 2 main types of fanboy:

- Annoying though harmless simps. "my favorite game is the best in history!!" "my beloved brand invented videogames and the cure for cancer!!"

- Rabid fanboys who become haters of other brands and antagonize any legit criticism. These ones are worse than haters, because they have the worst of both sides.

So, from bad to worse: fanboy < hater <<<<<<<<< rabid fanboy.
 
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