Thirty7ven
Banned
The only thing you’re saying is you’re batshit insane, clearly addicted to gaming, and have an unhealthy obsession with a mediocre brand. To each their own indeed.
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YTD Europe: PS5 4.68m; NSW 2.33m; X/S 0.88 m (Nov: PS5 1.21m; NSW 0.38m; X/S 0.18m)
The only thing you’re saying is you’re batshit insane, clearly addicted to gaming, and have an unhealthy obsession with a mediocre brand. To each their own indeed.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Your last point about “cloud or local” is so dumb. Obviously you should always go with Cloud right? If you’re switching PS5s lol. What’s so confusing?
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Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Where do you put your four PS5s?
fersnake
Member
i had 2 xboxes in my life (OG xbox and 360) and it was great. because at the end im a gamer but always had been a playstation owner and nintendo of course but really the "best" thing to do is own a pc and a ps5 cuz with gamepass on pc and the xbox exclusives you are safe and if you add a handle like the rog ally or steam deck u dont need anything else. (didnt add the switch cuz we already have yuzu) unless its a switch 2.
Ronin_7
Member
Seek help immediately.
Ronin_7
Member
I don't think there's any Xmas promotions for PlayStation 5 honestly.
Banjo64
cumsessed
New digital edition is £350 on Shopto’s eBay page with the 15% off code.
Ronin_7
Member
Interesting... Maybe this week there'll be something we shall wait and see.
MasterCornholio
Member
You need to stay out of sales threads. You clearly can't handle them and they are not good for your mental state.
Banjo64
cumsessed
It’s just an eBay code, not an official Sony promo. I think they won’t be doing anything this side of Xmas.
nowhat
Member
Ar¢tos
Member
He must get laid non stop with 5 PS5s and 1 XSX!
They probably form a queue at his door!
Bojji
Member
Yeah, they don't have to launch new hardware in my opinion but they would have to relaunch current consoles. Put some great marketing, great games and MOST IMPORTANT THING change that dumb fuck name of the console to Xbox 5 or something (like there wasn't windows 9). I think that stupid naming scheme costed them milions of consoles (like Nintendo with Wii u).
But knowing MS they just won't do it, they will keep with this failure for years and use their massive warchest to keep things (somewhere) afloat.
Woopah
Member
"Emotional woke walking simultor" is a weird way of saying "single player action games"
Probably not, but it was always a very ambitious target. I think 23 million and having the best hardware year in PS history is certainly possible.
kaizenkko
Member
I didn't know about this interview. A very big contrast to the things that Phil have said in that interview after Redfall release.Phil Spencer (little intern at Xbox, so clearly he has no idea what he's talking about) in 2020 :
“We have a plan and we feel very solid about it. I believe we have a plan that can win [the next generation.]"
“I feel good about the price we’re going to be able to get to. I feel good about the price and the performance capabilities that we have for Series X. I feel incredibly strong about the overall package.
Phil Spencer Says Team Xbox Have a “Plan” to “Win” the Next Generation - ThisGenGaming
Following on from his one on one interview with IGN’s Ryan McCaffrey, Phil Spencer has now been a guest on IGN show Next-Gen Console Watch 2020. This is IGN’s show where they break down all the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X news and rumours. The video is just under 30 minutes long so it’s...thisgengaming.com
But suuuuureee, they totally expected to get outsold 20:1 in Europe and 2:1 in the US (their strongest market).
John Wick
Member
The problem with MS is that unlike Sony and Nintendo who earned their way to where they are now. Along the way they learned valuable lessons. Ms strategy is always to stifle, out spend and buy their way to success.
A company with MS riches should have been the company experimenting with VR and the like as they can afford it. Yet it's Sony leading.....
MS and Xbox deserve to be last. Buying up 3rd party publishers just to thwart their rivals is scum bag practise.
A company with MS riches should have been the company experimenting with VR and the like as they can afford it. Yet it's Sony leading.....
MS and Xbox deserve to be last. Buying up 3rd party publishers just to thwart their rivals is scum bag practise.
Mr Moose
Member
Had a quick look when I was looking for the info about it, couldn't find it on here.
Schmendrick
Member
But.... Where are the engagement numbers? I've been told that's all that matters now.
alstrike
Member
This is not the flex you think it is...
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Hahaha? What?
I'm s bit confused by this, broski! I'm good lol
Is English not your first language? Maybe your mixing up something I'm saying?
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Hahaha, what? This is one hell of a wild take.
I have 4 kids and multiple rooms in my house.
Do people just move consoles to different rooms or have multiple consoles?
I'm confused
Thirty7ven
Banned
Bet you have a mini oven and a mini fridge in every corner of your house lest you look the wrong way and starve to death.
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MasterCornholio
Member
No but I find it insulting that your calling me illiterate.
These type of threads are affecting you in a bad way. You really should stop posting in them if the subject bothers you so much.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Actually with PS5 you CANT move saves through USB between consoles for PS5 games, which is even worse. You can “technically” backup the saves alongside whole games but that’s not something normal folks would do.
Personally for me the whole hubris out of MS just puts me off the them and I have had Xbox consoles since OG (not as primary but still).
The whole buying Nintendo and Steam as well as driving Sony out of business grinds me the wrong way. MS is enough of a problem dealing with them at Enterprise level for my work, and I don’t want they shit in my gaming hobby.
And I say that as someone who has been working with MS, sometimes for MS, for almost 30 years.
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HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
But it's seamless!
balls of snow
Member
Launching a new generation of xbox should fix the problem right quick. /s
Roronoa Zoro
Gold Member
I wish MS would sell of their gaming IP to Sony, Nintendo, and SEGA lol but alas the infinite warchest that only gets bigger as they take over Amazon for cloud and expand further with windows
Vlodril
Member
Agreed. Both Nintendo and Sony put their heads down when they weren't performing and just doubled down on getting good games out there and better machines. Ms just does not want to put in the effort and they keep trying to take shortcuts by using their "infinite" war chest but it just doesn't work that way. They keep trying the same thing when all the previous times it hasn't worked so you know insert the definition of insanity quote here.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It's so when one goes into a new room, they always have a cold sip of beer waiting, screw that 3⁰ temp drop from handheld travel time.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Not my intention at all. I just thought it might be something lost in translation.
I'm totally fine. This thread bothers me as much as a fart in the wind. I was confused by why you think I'm bothered. What was it I said that gave you the false impression?
I didn't expect a post that highlighted the various platforms and thie numbers in my house would make people come to a strange assumption about me.
Overall, what about my post made people change from discussing rhe point to about me personally. I lt was very strange.
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MasterCornholio
Member
To he fair people make assumptions about you based on other things. Like your behavior in other types of threads for example. Then there was that thread that earned you your tag.
Like I said if these threads bother you so much don't post in them. It isn't healthy.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Honestly, all good man. Don't worry about me.
Sales of a console have never bothered me. I enjoyed my wii u. Loved the dreamcast.
If people can't enjoy a machine because of the sales its received. That's someone who needs to seek help. Or say, if someone feels compelled to enjoy a machine because it has sold more. That is also, massively unhealthy.
Take the steam deck or quest 3 headset. Or psvr 2 headset. These are lower selling devices, does it mean that asgard wrath 2 isn't good, or half life alyx etc.
Just enjoy the games.
I just made a comment to highlight how someone like myself who moves around multiple devices, and also a work laptop can enjoy a eco system that allows this in a more streamlined way.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Yeah but what happens here quite a lot with ps5, is it states the last save aasnt uploaded properly etc and then I get concerned that if I accidentally click local, will that then override my cloud save and lose my progress. Its just not that clean.
why would I even try to reply when half of what you wrote is absolute bollocks. Then we have the bolded.
mayham2199
Member
I know MS expected some loss of consoles sales because of their strategy but there’s no way they expected it to be this bad.
Unknown?
Member
None of that is a feature only on Xbox.
Daneel Elijah
Member
At this point the answer scare me a little. Did Xbox knew, and told something else to MS? Did they knew, told MS and got ordered to do it anyway? Or did they really believe in their strategy, and are simply as surprised as us? This is why I am so curious about the market answer when/if there is a PS5 Pro and no equivalent from Xbox. They can hide their sales numbers, hide Gamepass numbers. They can hide they games sales. Say that the Series X is the best console, and that the Series S is the best value one. But the Pro will change all of that. No more Series X is a monster. The Pro will be the best place to play some games, no doubt. How long will that be may change, but probably at least one year. The PS5 will probably get cheaper as a result, because that make sense. How low will Xbox have to make the Series S to still be worth it? When we know that they loose money at current prices? Games should be the answer, but there is not huge tentpole on the horizon from them.
X-Wing
Member
I agree with you. Also this idea that Xbox pushes PlayStation to be better is idiotic. Xbox hasn't offered any real competition since the middle of the 360 generation.
Flutta
Banned
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Stay with Xbox, just until we're sure it's dead.
I'll let you know when to jump ship to Nintendo.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Yeeeeeep.
MasterCornholio
Member
This happens to everyone including me. Not trying to be mean or anything but your actions determine how people will react to you. It's even a bigger issue if you keep repeating behavior that doesn't sit well with others.
Crayon
Member
I have been thinking about similar questions. Especially this one. Not that I know it's true but because it's the most salacious.
- - Did Xbox know, and told something else to MS? - -
This is my favorite one, of course. In this scenario, Phil's been under a lot of stress for years now, and it makes work more difficult. Judgement can slip, and emotions can affect decision making. It's not hard to imagine the guy who wrote those emails could get their perspective a little skewed. He does all these interviews and if you listen to them, it won't be that long before hearing something that can be directly contradicted by what came out in the trial.
What if he is telling people inside ms that they have this vision to turn xbox into the biggest gaming outfit ever with the cloud. Did you hear that, Satya? Cloud. Uncle Satya likes the Cloud. So Phil claims this is this multi-tier plan that includes the console along with pc and other things, and it's going to pivot away from hardware eventually. They won't need to sell xboxs. But the problem is, in Phil's heart of hearts, he wants to win all the wars. Valve. Nintendo. And especially sony. They'll pay for dreamcast. Them and all their stinky little ponies. So he lets his "passion for games" affect his work, including what to say and how to say it.
So maybe, when there are discussions at MS about the road map for pivoting away from console, Phil has a tendency to overstate the case of the console in the current meta. And maybe with all that time he spends talking on twitter engaging with fans colored the internal conversations about how another generation of xbox was going to do. And phil is primed to be way overly optimistic and maybe even tell some half-truths about how good they were poised to do with console sales. And you know that's really important for our cloud strategy because blah blah insert justifications here. When really, he should have known the best thing would have been to pivot away from high volume consoles sooner than later. Especially with the bgs and abk purchases.
Anyway, doesn't mean it happened but it's fun to think about because it's a very human story, yet possible. "One man's hubris brings down and empire". Very dramatic, ha.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Agreed. Nothing wrong with a preference, but when it gets out of hand, people will notice.
Daneel Elijah
Member
And the fact that his predecessor did the same with the Kinect would make this even more damning. "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it". A modern day tragedy.
I have to admit that
twilo99
may have a point. We are really taking pleasure out of Xbox impending doom. I hope that next month is different. Before this year E3, we got a lot of Xbox is doomed threads. I think that this trend will come back soon.
Crayon
Member
