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[MrA]

Listen buddy I came from the Microsoft school of counting where 360 both after and before 1 and 9 is 7 and 8 skips to 10

 

[Labadal]

But Xbox won Black Friday.

 

[Pelta88]

Any other European based gamers remember when the 360 was in beast mode here?

 

[Shane89]

 

[nowhat]

Box ends i. X therefore every box is an xbox and switches and ps5 come in boxes therefore they are xboxes so every console sold counts and xboxes count twice so xbox won everything

Very well said. On a related note, has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

 

[ByWatterson]

LOL, holy shit.

 

[Pedro Motta]

Box ends i. X therefore every box is an xbox and switches and ps5 come in boxes therefore they are xboxes so every console sold counts and xboxes count twice so xbox won everything

 

[Pedro Motta]

They should really just buy the whole industry at this point.

 

[mckmas8808]

I seriously wonder how. It shouldn't be this bad even in the worst case scenario.

Is there a reason for this? Genuine question.

People need to look themselves in the face and ask................................................"Is GamePass really the best deal in gaming?"

Seriously!

 

[Imtjnotu]

Why does everyone keep saying Xbox won black Friday. Why is this joke not reaching me

 

[thatsafakewebsitebro]

At this point Microsoft is buying up studios to position themselves as THE go-to 3rd party publisher come next gen.

 

[Horseganador]

And these figures are with enormous discounts (you can buy a series S from €200 and in the USA for less) and Starfield, Forza, etc... have recently been released, in 2024 the Xbox debacle will be even greater.

 

[Dr_Ifto]

Microsoft should have bought EA for the football game, and made it exclusive. Activision is only big in US/UK where they were already pretty strong.

 

[Ar¢tos]

I'm starting to suspect that Starfield wasn't a system seller game.
Hmmm... I'll wait for December to be really sure.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

yep... there is no 4D chess strategy from MS, despite what Xbox experts analyst keep saying.

 

[phaedrus]

Remind me, how long has Phil Spenser been in charge of Xbox.

Or can we still pin this on Don Matrick?

At this point surely Nadella got to step in.

 

[Mr Moose]

Why does everyone keep saying Xbox won black Friday. Why is this joke not reaching me

People are taking the piss out of Wedbush bullshit (Probably from Michael Pachter).

Microsoft ‘clear winner’ in video game space this Black Friday with X Box Series X most in-demand hardware

Black Friday 2023 in the video game space differed from previous years as there was ample inventory of high-end consoles from Microsoft Corporation...

www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk

"Microsoft was the clear winner on a combination of availability, discounting and Diablo IV," they wrote.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Remind me, how long has Phil Spenser been in charge of Xbox.

Or can we still pin this on Don Matrick?

At this point surely Nadella got to step in.

but Phil spent more time playing games than doing his job.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

But Xbox won Black Friday.

and The Game Awards. Keep your facts straight.

 

[Flabagast]

People are taking the piss out of Wedbush bullshit (Probably from Michael Pachter).

Microsoft ‘clear winner’ in video game space this Black Friday with X Box Series X most in-demand hardware

Black Friday 2023 in the video game space differed from previous years as there was ample inventory of high-end consoles from Microsoft Corporation...

www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk

Microsoft was also the clear winner in terms of new gamepass subscriptions during Black Friday, competitors were all at 0 new Gamepass additions, can you believe it ?!

Huge win imho

 

[Ar¢tos]

People are taking the piss out of Wedbush bullshit (Probably from Michael Pachter).

Microsoft ‘clear winner’ in video game space this Black Friday with X Box Series X most in-demand hardware

Black Friday 2023 in the video game space differed from previous years as there was ample inventory of high-end consoles from Microsoft Corporation...

www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk

Well, it is kinda true. Few Xboxes sold = more Xboxes available, so they win availability , Xbox had a bigger discount than PS5 and MS gets the profit from Diablo IV sales, so they have more Diablo IV than Playstation.

 

[Flutta]

People need to look themselves in the face and ask................................................"Is GamePass really the best deal in gaming?"

Seriously!

For someone who doesn't care about this industry or what happens to it, for those who feel entitled to get everything for cheap without a concern how damaging this type of consumption is.
For those people it's the best deal ever.

 

[Woopah]

CoD is irrelevant in mainland Europe & Asia.

Fortnite, EA FC & Apex dominate EU on Console.

Maybe in the UK.

Not in mainline Europe, COD just topped the monthly charts in Germany and MW2 was the 2nd best selling game in France last year (usual caveats apply).

 

[TheGodfather07]

yep... there is no 4D chess strategy from MS, despite what Xbox experts analyst keep saying.

Remember the people who was saying Microsoft were deliberately underperforming to help get the Activision deal through? Fucking lol. They always have an excuse for why xbox isn't doing well.

 

[Nonehxc]

Box ends i. X therefore every box is an xbox and switches and ps5 come in boxes therefore they are xboxes so every console sold counts and xboxes count twice so xbox won everything

Your logic is sound and spotless.

You are technically correct, which is the best way to be correct.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

It's a pretty accurate reflection on the state of the system. Regardless of what people want a champion. It's not worth having. I do play some of their games on PC though. I'm glad for that.

 

[XXL]

In Europe Xbox is basically already is a 3rd party developer.

 

[jroc74]

PS5 sold more in November than Xbox has YTD?

I swear you could change Nov to several other months and it would still apply.

 

[Flutta]

Microsoft basically went 3rd party in EU.

They don't need to they won Black Friday.

 

[Crayon]

In Europe Xbox is basically already is a 3rd party developer.

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

Who gives a fuck about hardware sales??

Let's open a thread about how many hours Phillip W Spencer played which game.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

I seriously wonder how. It shouldn't be this bad even in the worst case scenario.

Is there a reason for this? Genuine question.

1) People severely overestimate the success of the 360 in Europe, that created a false narrative according to which PS had competition. PS just was too fucking expensive for the Euro market at launch and Xbox was cheaper with roughly the same games (even some cooler ones in the early years). People trampling each other to buy a PS4 at launch should have destroyed that narrative 10 years ago.

2) PS4 re-established PS's absolute rule on the continent to the extent that MS never could realistically be called a competitor again. But again, pretending Xbox still had some weight in Europe last gen makes for a much funnier console war narrative.

3) Xbox put a foot in the door in the age of absolute no-fucks-given dudebro gaming. Games getting more complex than that, coupled with the demolition of the dudebro wave by the emergence of the woke (used in a very broad way here) era and the fall of historical MS staples like Halo, extinguished the very thing that made Xbox distinguish itself as a brand. That was Xbox identity's, like it or not, and it's unfit for the current societal environment.

 

[Flabagast]

I dont think people realise, this is absolutely disastrous.

Some stores are beginning to remove Xbox entirely from shelves in several European countries. The brand is seriously dying in this continent as we speak.

 

[ChiefDada]

11 months. December numbers are pending.

In a way they're not.

 

[Dr_Ifto]

Jesus.

At some point, you have to look at the leadership and ask what is going on?

1. Disastrous game launches (Redfall)
2. Non system seller 1st Party games which launched to midling reviews (Starfall)
3. 68billion acquisition that you cannot make exclusive for the best titles for 10 years
4. Vastly underperforming console sales
5. 6+ year game development

 

[SkylineRKR]

So let me get this straight, PS5 sold in November more units than Xbox has during its lifetime, 3 full years?

 

[Bernardougf]

And thats why they (MS) have to kill asap this generation and TRY to start fresh by 26/27 ... top hardware, great EXCLUSIVES, no more series S bullshit and no more day 1 PC launching, I would kill gamepass day 01 also but this seems far-fetched at this point, but maybe a new type of gamepass tear with the new generation ....

A new console with great exclusives for that console can succeed.... will they do it ? nop.

 

[Bernoulli]

PS5 sold more in November than Xbox has YTD?

 

[GHG]

So let me get this straight, PS5 sold in November more units than Xbox has during its lifetime, 3 full years?

No, it sold more in November than Xbox has YTD.

 

[Edmund]

If Phil was Japanese, he'd seppuku right now in the Microsoft headquarters with Satya watching.

 

[ChiefDada]

So let me get this straight, PS5 sold in November more units than Xbox has during its lifetime, 3 full years?

Lol we haven't reached that level of mayday... Yet. PS5 November sales eclipsed Series YTD sales. Which is still pretty awful and something even I never expected.

 

[DeepEnigma]

If Phil was Japanese, he'd seppuku right now in the Microsoft headquarters with Satya watching.

Nah, he had is MSFT career moment in E.E.E. from the competition.

The career moment isn't delivering in spades to the fans and consumers, it's buying up publishers and storied IPs you already had access to, swallowing large chunks of the industry. MS's way in any industry they enter.

 

[onQ123]

I seriously wonder how. It shouldn't be this bad even in the worst case scenario.

Is there a reason for this? Genuine question.

The Answer

Xbox as a console brand seems to be really dying lately can Scarlett change that or will it be a short lived project?

There was more hype around Xbox Scorpio than there is around Scarlett , Xbox One X started off with a nice push from Microsoft but it seems like they quickly gave up on it you can get a Xbox One X for $402 right now but no one seems to care that it's $97 off . You can get the Xbox One S A.D for...

www.neogaf.com

 

[Kilau]

I guess I am the only one that changed from PS to XB this gen. I also bought the Master System, Dreamcast, Vita & Wii U.

Name the next system/company for me to kill with my support.

 

[bender]

Everything's coming up Don Mattrick.

 

[Snowdonhoffen]

Damn, I've seen some people saying that Xbox sales are like this because MS was too focused on the Activision acquisition to properly market the console .

So these are the excuses we've had throughout the years:
- Release - 2021: Supply issues (I'll give them that)
- 2022: Lack of games
- 2023: Too focused on acquisition
- 2024: ?

 

[Dick Jones]

I guess I am the only one that changed from PS to XB this gen. I also bought the Master System, Dreamcast, Vita & Wii U.

Name the next system/company for me to kill with my support.

Ouya.

 

[scarlet0pimp]

I know this is a circle jerk of Playstation guys living their best life, but xbox was always a dud in Europe other than UK. 360 did alright but was soundly beaten by PS3. Only in the UK was that reversed, with the 360 soundly beating the PS3. It's why Microsoft havn't really put any effort in over there they have accepted it, and trying to bring customers in via PC. The places that Microsoft are worried about are UK and US where they are currently offering a load of discounts to try and sell a load before Christmas is over.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Any other European based gamers remember when the 360 was in beast mode here?

I wouldn't call it beast mode (unless you talk about the ~18 month headstart and PS3 terrible launch-window), but at least it was competitive.

 

[Bernoulli]

Damn, I've seen some people saying that Xbox sales are like this because MS was too focused on the Activision acquisition to properly market the console .

So these are the excuses we've had throughout the years:
- Release - 2021: Supply issues (I'll give them that)
- 2022: Lack of games
- 2023: Too focused on acquisition
- 2024: ?

Focused on next-gen