PotionBleue
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I believe no one has uploaded the Hyrule Boss Battle theme yet, but I don't know how you're supposed to capture it without parasites.
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Zelda: A Link Between Worlds |OT| All in all you're just another Link in the wall
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I believe no one has uploaded the Hyrule Boss Battle theme yet, but I don't know how you're supposed to capture it without parasites.
Well, you do what LttP did with items and you've got the sweet spot I think... though is way, WAY closer to my sweet spot than most open world games.
Finished it, I liked it a lot, story wise I was
underwhelmed as I was sort of hoping it was more directly a continuation of the Dark World or something rather than just... I dunno, an alternate "The Legend of HIlda" world that happened to be turning into its own Dark World but I kinda gave up on Zelda for story, and honestly you'd probably be well off just having ended it entirely with Wind Waker and rebooting or something from there, afterwards with the exception (to a degree) of Skyward Sword it's just felt like relatively unimportant side stories, and not particularly interesting ones like Link's Awakening or Majora's Mask.
Gameplay wise though, I think this is way, way closer to what I'd been wanting from Zelda lately. Just a world that I slowly unravel and fully explore over time, I didn't get the 6 last heart pieces though and maybe there's some other stuff I'm missing, but at that point I didn't really need more anyway.
The narrow paths were the worst part, certainly. It being unbelievable is just so irrelevant to me I wouldn't even know where to start. I loved the magic of it! The boss was lame though.
Xane
Member
Oh, I can do that. Don't think I have the one with Choir yet though.. but will look into it.
Which one is it exactly and/or where does it occur? (also, what parasites?)
Astral/H3X
Member
I'm seriously considering restarting my Hero Mode run for a no heart piece no mail run. Although I'll have to pick up Red Mail just for the finale. 
One attack in particular I couldn't dodge.
One attack in particular I couldn't dodge.That's what I get for not exploring then! I assumed you'd need the gloves to lift the rock to get the bomb flower through. Thought maybe everywhere else would be bottomless chasm. Oh well! Guess that'll help my order then!
I think the choir part gets added each time you give her 10 babies. Then after you leave and come back it's back to normal.
I'm seriously considering restarting my Hero Mode run for a no heart piece no mail run. Although I'll have to pick up Red Mail just for the finale.
So basically no-hit run? Good luck then.
Astral/H3X
Member
The gloves certainly would make it easier to not... prematurely explode... but no they are far from necessary.
EDIT: I NEEED a clean OST of this game, music is unbelievable. And I second the Maiamai choir, it's amazing.
OTL
wish I knew this before, could really have done with that armour, swamp palace was the last dungeon I did.
Just entered the final dungeon last night. 17 hours in, not a single minute was boring. Everything you do has a worthwhile reward.
+ The gameplay is fast.
+ Lots of stuff to do and see outside the dungeons
+ The wall mechanic is great
+ Rupees are finally helpful
+ The dungeons design
+ The return to non-linearity is the way to go for Zelda
+ The mini-dungeons with the thieves (In the Iwata Asks, a developer's idea of having 50 of them was rejected by Miyamoto), I would have liked more of them
+ The music
+ The shimmering water
+ The 3D depth perception
- The dungeons are a bit short and easy for a Zelda veteran.
- I would have liked a more original and developed story.
- A completely new Hyrule/Lorule would have made the game even better with a better sense of discovery.
- Most of the secrets are not secret. You see cracks in the walls etc...They need to go back to real secrets where you can deduce stuff by observing the environment and hints by the locals. For instance if you watch a dungeon map you can guess there should be a room over there.
- The need to remove the red X on the map (Or make it optional) and give hints by the town-folks.
- A lack of crazy/more original items.
- To many hearts being dropped.
For Zelda U they need to keep that framework, but give access to 3 dungeons at a time, allowing to gradually increase their complexity. The rental system worked but it was basically the same thing as having all items from the start like in Arkham City. With the 3 dungeons set up, they could put the items of the next 3 dungeons in the current 3 you are in but only getting to use them really in the overworld and the next dungeons. At least give us a cool new object in every dungeons, like a new shield, a new tunic, a piece of map and whatnot.
Anyway very happy with this new Zelda and I feel the original flavor of the franchise is back. I can't possibly rank them but it's Top 5 for sure.
+ The gameplay is fast.
+ Lots of stuff to do and see outside the dungeons
+ The wall mechanic is great
+ Rupees are finally helpful
+ The dungeons design
+ The return to non-linearity is the way to go for Zelda
+ The mini-dungeons with the thieves (In the Iwata Asks, a developer's idea of having 50 of them was rejected by Miyamoto), I would have liked more of them
+ The music
+ The shimmering water
+ The 3D depth perception
- The dungeons are a bit short and easy for a Zelda veteran.
- I would have liked a more original and developed story.
- A completely new Hyrule/Lorule would have made the game even better with a better sense of discovery.
- Most of the secrets are not secret. You see cracks in the walls etc...They need to go back to real secrets where you can deduce stuff by observing the environment and hints by the locals. For instance if you watch a dungeon map you can guess there should be a room over there.
- The need to remove the red X on the map (Or make it optional) and give hints by the town-folks.
- A lack of crazy/more original items.
- To many hearts being dropped.
For Zelda U they need to keep that framework, but give access to 3 dungeons at a time, allowing to gradually increase their complexity. The rental system worked but it was basically the same thing as having all items from the start like in Arkham City. With the 3 dungeons set up, they could put the items of the next 3 dungeons in the current 3 you are in but only getting to use them really in the overworld and the next dungeons. At least give us a cool new object in every dungeons, like a new shield, a new tunic, a piece of map and whatnot.
Anyway very happy with this new Zelda and I feel the original flavor of the franchise is back. I can't possibly rank them but it's Top 5 for sure.
PotionBleue
Member
It plays against the bosses of the House of Gales / Tower of Hera in Hyrule, and it is a
remix of A Link To The Past's boss battle theme
By parasites I mean if you're recording directly from the game there are sound effects, but then I don't know if you guys hack the game / do audio editing or whatever.
No one hasFinished the game on Sunday and am ripping some of the music now.
Uploading on YouTube, here's one of them:
More to come once I get home from work. I have a lot of audio files already ripped and prepared, just need to render those pesky videos~
Any requests?
Skull Woods
Dark Palace
Just played through my first 3 Lorule dungeons in a row.
Loved them all and they all felt really different form one another. My favourite was probably the
. Felt really unique and it was heaps of fun. Managed to get the
as well as bought pretty much every item besides the Tornado Rod and Fire Rod. So far I've upgraded the Bow, Bombs, Hookshot, Boomerang and Ice Rod to the "Nice" versions as well.
Really hard to put this game down.
Dark Palace
Swamp Palace
Thieves' Hideout
Swamp Palace
Thieves' Hideout
Loved them all and they all felt really different form one another. My favourite was probably the
Thieves' Hideout
Blue Tunic and Tempered Master Sword
Really hard to put this game down.
BassForever
Member
Except there is no figuring out in this game, every dungeon only has puzzles that make use of the one item. By allowing the player to tackle dungeons in any order they have to make dungeons that can be solved with only that one item. It limits the puzzle creativity when you only need one dungeon item and the wall merge ability. In what other zelda game are both bombs and arrows completely useless outside of the one dungeon they're required for? I've already explore the entire over world so there is nothing left to find there and the dungeons can't be required to use my items as not every player may have the bow or bombs due to the rental system.
Also the fun of zelda is imo going back and exploring old areas with new items, instead now I just clean out an entire section the first time I get there and never come back. There is also no sense of mystery when I see weird notches in the wall or a heart piece in a bizarre area as to "how can I get that", I just get it cause I already have everything. This game might as well be stage based as there is no reason to explore old areas unless you missed things the first time around.
Maybe they could have fixed this feeling in me by making every dungeon access able at the outset along with every item, but instead of renting you could only buy. You can pick one item for free and the rest cost a ton, but at the end of each dungeon you get a huge rupee award, so I can only afford to buy one or two items.
I don't feel like it's really bad, the only thing I really complain about is the fact that there are no wallet sizes. I'd rather have a very small wallet (like max 200 rupees) at the start, so you're forced to actually choose what to get. Some items could even be impossible to rent/buy (because for example the price is higher than the maximum size of your current wallet). I'd also like the possibility to choose to LEAVE rupees in a chest when you open it (if I remember well in some iteration they wouldn't let you take the rupees in a chest with full wallet).
Xane
Member
Already have the audio files ripped for both of them. Not sure when I'll be able to upload them but probably soon.
This is true to some extent, but not totally.
Once you get to Lorule someone tells you the dungeons can't be normally reached but you have to find spots in Hyrule to switch world.
But you can do 2 dungeons without leaving Lorule at all, if I remember correctly, and in one of them you CAN find the Blue tunic halving the damage you take. So logically speaking that would better be the first dungeon you visit (enemies hit for more in Lorule) and the game lets you reach it in an easier way than the others. But other than that you can also completely avoid the "hints" and go your own way.
I have played every single 2D Zelda title, minus Phantom Hour Glass and Spirit Tracks and loved all of them
Now I hear this game is easy - like I mean not even a challenge of ever coming close to dieing, mega easy. I do remember LA and ALTTP having some more difficult areas (unless you really prepared with bottles and fairies). And while my memory is quit hazy, I definitely remember dieing at times through first time play throughs (I believe even Oracles/Seasons had some tough boss fights)
Ok, so if combat is no threat, there will at least will be some creative, maybe difficult puzzles instead right? But from the new system of doing dungeons in any order with the item system, I suspect the puzzles cannot be designed around a specific dungeon item where many of the more challenging puzzles were formulated in that regard.
I don't want to buy a 3/2DS for the game if there is simply no challenge at all. As good as the game could be in every way and still be enjoyable, I don't want another Minish Cap where I can yawn my way through the difficulty.
2D Zelda for me are such captivating, awesome games but perhaps in my older age and experiencing rogue like dungeon crawlers I never accessed before (Binding of Issac ect) I need something in this department even if everything else in the package is perfect.
Thoughts people?
Now I hear this game is easy - like I mean not even a challenge of ever coming close to dieing, mega easy. I do remember LA and ALTTP having some more difficult areas (unless you really prepared with bottles and fairies). And while my memory is quit hazy, I definitely remember dieing at times through first time play throughs (I believe even Oracles/Seasons had some tough boss fights)
Ok, so if combat is no threat, there will at least will be some creative, maybe difficult puzzles instead right? But from the new system of doing dungeons in any order with the item system, I suspect the puzzles cannot be designed around a specific dungeon item where many of the more challenging puzzles were formulated in that regard.
I don't want to buy a 3/2DS for the game if there is simply no challenge at all. As good as the game could be in every way and still be enjoyable, I don't want another Minish Cap where I can yawn my way through the difficulty.
2D Zelda for me are such captivating, awesome games but perhaps in my older age and experiencing rogue like dungeon crawlers I never accessed before (Binding of Issac ect) I need something in this department even if everything else in the package is perfect.
Thoughts people?
There's goddamn hero mode which is the most challenging thing ever in a Zelda game. In normal mode, the dungeons had me stumped quote a few times more than any other Zelda, and the bosses are brutal.
Buy it.
Nocturnowl
Member
The game was being too fun so the Ice dungeon had to come in and do what Ice in videogames so often does best and annoy the hell out of me. I'm glad I didn't leave that one till last as I originally planned, will wash that bitter taste down with the waters of the Swamp Palace.
I nearly died wandering into the wrong place at times and had a few fairy revives. It's not very hard if you're a seasoned Zelda veteran and a gaming veteran in general, but it's no Wind Waker where I had to LET AN ENEMY SLOWLY BEAT ME TO DEATH to finally get a Game Over (normal version, original GC release. I have no need for going out of my way to see Game Over on Hero Mode Wii U.)
And the dungeons are generally "do it in any order" with the caveat you have THE central item for the dungeon in hand. So it's fundamentally not that different from prior Zelda dungeons, just that it's designed with the assumption you only have a few core abilities/skills, some that are acquired without rentals, and that you have the de facto Dungeon Item in hand. Granted, some dungeons don't really have that item requirement, but they tend to be very dependent on the wall merging mechanic for their puzzles.
If it's a challenge you want then this is going to be your best recent Zelda option that isn't Wind Waker HD, and that's only because that comes with Hero mode unlocked from the get go.
Porcile
Member
Main story finished! Feelings below. I'm not quite done as I intend to explore Hyrule/Lorule a bit further before Mario comes out this Friday.
+ Brilliant brilliant dungeon design. They felt short but that's because I think I was enjoying them so much,
+ Graphics, despite looking like turd in screen shots are in fact lovely.
+ Great writing and world craftsmanship in general. Expected at this point, but it's always satisfying how the Zelda team never fails to deliver on creating a fascinating world.
+ Controls so tight and fluid, it's really a joy to actually play.
+ Difficulty feels just right to be honest. Bearing in mind I've played every Zelda game, so at this point a crazy challenge isn't to be expected. Just unlock Hero Mode from the start, please.
- Rental system. I've already expressed my thoughts that the rental system is slightly flawed in it's execution. It works, but there's better ways of dishing out items. Giving them all to you at start perhaps. I preferred buying the items than renting them. There's still much work to be done, but I'm looking forward to seeing how Zelda Wii U approaches it .
- No dungeon items. There's some handy upgrades but overall I miss getting a new item which unlocks previously hidden paths and fundamentally alters the way a dungeon plays out.
-Dungeons feel trivial because ultimately your desire to finish each one is incentivised by new developments in the story which don't amount to much anyway. The open ended nature of dungeon progression means there isn't a linear story to follow. Futher compounded by the point below.
- Story is totally predictable. One nice surprise:
but otherwise, I saw every other plot twist coming.
I just enjoyed the main game immensely. The good points totally outweigh the bad, but it's not my favourite Zelda, and it's probably not my favourite 2D Zelda either.
EDIT: Oh, and the music! Amazeballs.
+ Brilliant brilliant dungeon design. They felt short but that's because I think I was enjoying them so much,
+ Graphics, despite looking like turd in screen shots are in fact lovely.
+ Great writing and world craftsmanship in general. Expected at this point, but it's always satisfying how the Zelda team never fails to deliver on creating a fascinating world.
+ Controls so tight and fluid, it's really a joy to actually play.
+ Difficulty feels just right to be honest. Bearing in mind I've played every Zelda game, so at this point a crazy challenge isn't to be expected. Just unlock Hero Mode from the start, please.
- Rental system. I've already expressed my thoughts that the rental system is slightly flawed in it's execution. It works, but there's better ways of dishing out items. Giving them all to you at start perhaps. I preferred buying the items than renting them. There's still much work to be done, but I'm looking forward to seeing how Zelda Wii U approaches it .
- No dungeon items. There's some handy upgrades but overall I miss getting a new item which unlocks previously hidden paths and fundamentally alters the way a dungeon plays out.
-Dungeons feel trivial because ultimately your desire to finish each one is incentivised by new developments in the story which don't amount to much anyway. The open ended nature of dungeon progression means there isn't a linear story to follow. Futher compounded by the point below.
- Story is totally predictable. One nice surprise:
Ravio being Lorule Link
I just enjoyed the main game immensely. The good points totally outweigh the bad, but it's not my favourite Zelda, and it's probably not my favourite 2D Zelda either.
EDIT: Oh, and the music! Amazeballs.
I'm loving the game, but no, it's not challenging at all. The dungeons are very easy and straightforward as well, with not much puzzle solving. The game is a lot of fun since it controls so well, but puzzle design leaves a lot to be desired.
Really? I'm of the opinion that ALBW has pretty much the best 2D dungeon design in the entire series, apart from Oracle of Ages.
British Monsoon
Member
I left the Ice Dungeon till last and wished I hadn't, those thin, moving platforms sections were a real pain. Probably my least favourite dungeon.
Porcile
Member
I'm still missing a chest from there. Really can't be bothered to go back and get it. It's pretty complex and slow figuring out how to get back the beginning once you've dropped a few floors.
Basileus777
Member
The Desert Palace is one of my favorite dungeons in any 2D Zelda. There were some great puzzles there.
Did you play Spirit Tracks
since that game introduced the sand rod?
Basileus777
Member
Nope, never played it.
The dungeons are extremely linear and there's usually not much interaction across rooms. You just follow a path, complete whatever puzzle is in the room, and move on. The puzzles are never more than simple item or ability use puzzles. You either use an item or ability in a location, or you hit some switches. Since dungeons only ever require one item, there's never any complexity to these puzzles at all.
LttP dungeons were definitely more complex and involved. I recall the dungeon where you used the rod of Samaria had some good puzzles.
Basileus777
Member
You're thinking of Misery Mire. Or maybe Turtle Rock. ALTTP's Turtle Rock was a much better dungeon.
Yeah Turtle Rock is the one I'm thinking of.
Basileus777
Member
That's the kind of thing you can't do with the rental system, design a dungeon around multiple items. The cane, fire rod, ice rod, mirror shield, and bombs were all needed to beat it.
Oh god. I am kinda stuck. Impressive. I beat the first dungeon and am trying to get to the lower dungeon (I think water?) but I can't lift some rocks or drown trying to get to the place where the X is marked. I feel dumb. Maybe I need to beat the one in the north first? Btw... loving the game. Love the 60fps, the graphics are ok, the music is godly. Just happy with it.
Also... dat Majora's Mask.
Also... dat Majora's Mask.
Turtle Rock in ALTTP is the optimal dungeon. You pretty much need every item before, it's huge, it's difficult, it's a maze. I know it like the back of my hand nowadays but I assure you, a first-timer will Die in that dungeon. Some enemies hurt like a truck, even with the Blue Mail at that point. That infamous room with the Moving platform and all the spinning fire lines will make you throw that controller.
I still think it's one of the best dungeon ever made.
It's one of my least favorite Zelda dungeons ever.
Hahahahaha, yah I guess I see were you come from.
Few people like it the first times they do it. But if you ever play that game over 20-30 times, you come to appreciate it for what it does.
I've been playing LTTP for almost 20 years now.
I always dread Turtle Rock, even today. It's a shitty shitty dungeon.
darkjedi187
Member
Decided to go right into a playthrough in Hero mode. Dam, I love this game and Hero mode is so so good!! The dificulty is so good nad now I'm actually using my sub weapons more.
Basileus777
Member
ALBW's Turtle Rock was such a disappointment. I saved it for last because of ALTTP's version and all I got was a mediocre fire dungeon and no mirror shield.
Hahaha well that's exactly why. It's THAT dungeon. You know it's eventually coming. You remember THAT room, those Laser eyes, that maze. You pretty much need to be skillful to beat it.
And that's why I love it. Even today, even after I did a No-Hit run ONCE (never again, my nerves), that dungeon is still hard.
lastflowers
Banned
Alright guys. I'm an hour in, and I'm glad I decided to listen to the game instead of watch a movie while playing (on an elliptical machine).
The music is glorious. I want to buy a soundtrack.
The music is glorious. I want to buy a soundtrack.