Why the fuck do you even care this much about reviews? Is it going to affect or hinder your enjoyment of the game?
Lightning Returns Review Thread
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Why the fuck do you even care this much about reviews? Is it going to affect or hinder your enjoyment of the game?
ZettaiSeigi
Member
But isn't it a "mainline game"? FF X-2 also polarized the FF fanbase when it was released but not as much as XIII and its sequels did. The fact is that for a game that has Final Fantasy on its name, it really has been poorly received.
Why so salty? If you like the series, enjoy the game and don't bother with the reviews.
Dude, come on. I'm as excited as you are but the game looks like shit. Art style and graphical fidelity are two different things.
Dragon1893
Member
There was actually nothing wrong with the graphics either. The game had a huge draw-distance and ran very smoothly, it didn't look stunning but some locations were actually quite beautiful.
Graphics were simplistic but not ugly. Also some boss fights had the scale of something you'd usually see in a God of War game.
Perfo makes every FF thread a chore to read. Jesus Christ.
hahah ok.
Stop making a fool of yourself Perfo. Your just lowering your already terrible reputation.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
You see, this is the thing I can't seem to comprehend. I've seen people suggesting that should XIII and its sequels are new IP, people would have been less critical and unforgiving because the game wouldn't be directly compared to the much established brand name of the previous instalments. Because of that, the game would be met with better critical response but potentially lower sales numbers.
Then, in this thread, there are people who suggested that if this game has no Final Fantasy in the title, it would both sell worse and rated worse, which doesn't make much sense to me. I would agree that it would likely sell less, but I can see the game being better received (slightly).
Thickstone
Member
Nope, I would not consider it to be a mainline entry.
- The name is the most obvious reason. It's a bit like Dirge of Cerberus in that respect.
- It received way less polish and bugdet than a mainline entry. They would never release a mainline game in that state. Note how close to visual perfection XIII was and how Every FF has a huge amount of polish and attention to detail. That's not the case here.
Lightning Returns is clearly a game directed at those who liked the previous games. And it's an easy way for SE to make some sort of money without much effort. I think it's nothing more than that and people who claim otherwise are just lying to themselves.
Got it off of psn store, couple hours in. So far, I'm only noticing the cons.
- I HATE quest games. "Go find Ms. Oldman's cat!" "My employee is missing can you go find him?" WHY do people like these kinds of games!? FFXIII's best trait was it's linearity. I feel like gamers are over that false sense of freedom by now. It doesn't matter what order you do those quests in because they both still have to be done. Just put the story on rails and make it pretty cuz ain't nobody got time for that.
- The battle system is awesome of course but the battles are boring and feel pointless.
- So far the only way I can describe the pace of the game: FFXIII felt like reading a well-paced, book-length story. FFXIII-2 felt like reading a nice set of short stories. LR:FFXIII feels like I'm just running through flash cards.
- Alli Hillis is trying too hard. Hope's voice actor isn't trying at all. He sounds older than his adult counterpart from FFXIII-2 even though he's supposed to be young in this game again.
- *bring bring* Hey LighHOPE SHUT UP. He talks so much he interrupts his own dialog with more of his own dialog. I skip through most of the dialog in the game anyway because it's long, slow (yet everyone sounds slightly pressed to speak as fast as they can) and I'm under pressure from the clock.
- The graphics are redonk horrible.
- Framerate is sub 30fps.
- The Ark is so stupid looking.
- The doomsday clock was obviously put in because nothing/no one in this game provides any sort of motive.
so who cares?
- The tone of the first two games was based on emotion and destiny. LR feels flat.
- They didn't bother modifying the lip movements for english localization like they did in the past games in cut scenes. It's sad.
Pros:
- The size of the two cities I've explored so far are huge compared to any environment in the last few games.
- Boss battles.
- I'd say the music but somewhere half way into the game all music stopped except for battles. Bug?
Y'all can look at my post history and see that I'm basically only on gaf to talk about the FFXIII series. I'm gonna get back into the game tomorrow and hope for some redemption. The story needs to pick up big time. Unfortunately it's looking like LR is the game that should never have been made. It's half baked.
- I HATE quest games. "Go find Ms. Oldman's cat!" "My employee is missing can you go find him?" WHY do people like these kinds of games!? FFXIII's best trait was it's linearity. I feel like gamers are over that false sense of freedom by now. It doesn't matter what order you do those quests in because they both still have to be done. Just put the story on rails and make it pretty cuz ain't nobody got time for that.
- The battle system is awesome of course but the battles are boring and feel pointless.
- So far the only way I can describe the pace of the game: FFXIII felt like reading a well-paced, book-length story. FFXIII-2 felt like reading a nice set of short stories. LR:FFXIII feels like I'm just running through flash cards.
- Alli Hillis is trying too hard. Hope's voice actor isn't trying at all. He sounds older than his adult counterpart from FFXIII-2 even though he's supposed to be young in this game again.
- *bring bring* Hey LighHOPE SHUT UP. He talks so much he interrupts his own dialog with more of his own dialog. I skip through most of the dialog in the game anyway because it's long, slow (yet everyone sounds slightly pressed to speak as fast as they can) and I'm under pressure from the clock.
- The graphics are redonk horrible.
- Framerate is sub 30fps.
- The Ark is so stupid looking.
- The doomsday clock was obviously put in because nothing/no one in this game provides any sort of motive.
Light has to save her sister!... but oh wait but god made her devoid of emotion
- The tone of the first two games was based on emotion and destiny. LR feels flat.
- They didn't bother modifying the lip movements for english localization like they did in the past games in cut scenes. It's sad.
Pros:
- The size of the two cities I've explored so far are huge compared to any environment in the last few games.
- Boss battles.
- I'd say the music but somewhere half way into the game all music stopped except for battles. Bug?
Y'all can look at my post history and see that I'm basically only on gaf to talk about the FFXIII series. I'm gonna get back into the game tomorrow and hope for some redemption. The story needs to pick up big time. Unfortunately it's looking like LR is the game that should never have been made. It's half baked.
Corronchilejano
Member
I don't know anything about NieR but when The Last Remnant got those scores it was atetechnical train wreck holding back an incredibly good and addicting game with an acceptable storyline and likeable characters.
At least the PC version got to fix those... is there really any way to fix a story and characters so unlikeable that they actually drive the scores down from what apparently is an addicting battle system? FF XIII-3 decided to go on a bang by doubling down on its most hated feature, no wonder its not doing well.
silver.tongue
Member
An average game.
Too bad that is what we come to expect from Final Fantasy recently.
I loved XIII btw... Not a fan of XIII-2.
Edit: Still buying it asap.
Too bad that is what we come to expect from Final Fantasy recently.
I loved XIII btw... Not a fan of XIII-2.
Edit: Still buying it asap.
No way xiii-2 was way better than 13.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
From Gamespot we only have text. Giant Bomb probably will not have a review but they may play the game/has a opinion. Also, Eurogamer and Edge, etc.
silver.tongue
Member
It's a good debate and it all comes down to what you expect from a Final Fantasy game. I play FF for a good story.
FFXIII had a very good story, confusing but very good. Great battle system too.
I have no problem with it's linearity, but the lack of exploration is the biggest issue of the game to me.
FFXIII-2 fixed a lot of the problems XIII had, specially the lack of exploration and side-quests. But the story was a total mess, the game looked worse and had the same 2 characters.
So yeah... to me XIII is vastly superior.
Edit: I flirt with the idea of selling my copy of XIII-2 and pretending FFXIII-2 never existed, but I know that I just can't do that.
goddammit!! hopefully only outside of battles??
No.
The Gaming Zen
Banned
I've really enjoyed the XIII series so far, but I understand why people don't care for it because it's such a drastic change from what Final Fantasy is all about. Bravely Default reminds me that I'd like to have seen Final Fantasy stick to it's roots and give us a world to play in. If there is one thing that bothers me with SquareEnix is the drama fest dialog between characters. Everything is so heavy and sad, or overly happy at the wrong times. Playing through Tales of Xillia right now and enjoying the heck out the dialog! Oh well, here's to hoping SquareEnix will get it right with 15!
Looking forward to playing 13-3 today though even though I know the story will be a convoluted mess! Thank goodness the battle system looks like great fun.
Looking forward to playing 13-3 today though even though I know the story will be a convoluted mess! Thank goodness the battle system looks like great fun.
I couldn't agree with you more. I didn't particuarly love the story in FFXIII but it was way way better than FFXIII-2, and was the best story since FFX for me.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Its not even just that though. XIII-2 was more open but it had such an obtuse open world design. Most of the time having to go get x key to open y door to get z for w. There's only a small amount of areas too which had slight alterations based on time period giving little reason to want to explore them. Not to mention level scaling was an issue. If you skipped side stuff you could end up being under levelled but if you did side stuff everything was a walk in the park.
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
UNLEASH HELL!
Here is our review: http://press-start.com.au/2014/02/12/lightning-returns-final-fantasy-xiii-review-wip/
Solid game for fans of the series. Not much there for those who aren't invested.
Solid game for fans of the series. Not much there for those who aren't invested.
clay_ghost
Member
Combo breaker
Reviews seems better i expected.
Still i am guessing i can get the game for $20 in less than a few months time
Unleash THE GRAN PULSE ^^
Destructoid: http://www.destructoid.com/review-lightning-returns-final-fantasy-270350.phtml
7.5/10
BlazingDarkness
Member
Sounds good!
brandonh83
Banned
Seems like the consensus is that it's a good game with a stupid plot, which is what I surmised the second the game was revealed. I'm still good to go. Open your doors Gamestop!
Vincent Alexander
Member
Well, I'm getting slightly bummed. Even the good reviews positives don't sound positive for me. I honestly liked 13-2 better than 13. As long as this one is better than 13 as well, I'll be happy.
The monotonous fetch quests + time restriction + only four areas = ugh
The monotonous fetch quests + time restriction + only four areas = ugh
Videogamer...
A complex and enjoyable JRPG, if not a brilliant one.
7/10...? A minus for difficulty spikes? Weird....
Caffeine
Gold Member
BlazingDarkness
Member
brandonh83
Banned
Wait, less ridiculous? It looks more ridiculous lol
The moment Lightning whipped out those shades in the trailer, I was like yep, they're going for broke here.
cascardian
Member
That's a pretty damning review. So, what's the general consensus on the plot writing? Is it still in desperate need of an editor (i.e., buried under heaps and heaps of meaningless exposition as the Polygon review seems to imply)? The first and second games were mind-numbing in that sense.
It's interesting to see how Polygon and Metro have completely opposite views on the humor. It's a personal thing, I guess.