The Dutch Slayer
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The only thing that I take away from the OP and the gametrailers video review is that One day the spoony review will beat them all and will be the best video series ever! 
Lightning Returns Review Thread
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Well from reviews and impressions it seems that the time mechanic in this game is pointless.
zenosparadox
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For some, it was fine. For others, it was the lesser of other evils, but it does not mean it was fine.
Red Mage
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I own both games. Most "Lightnings" you fight are fakes, unless you're fighting against the CPU for goods.
badcrumble
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I could see this happening, but we should remember that a lot of the KH1/2/BBS/DDD cameos were sort of structured around other properties that were getting hyped at the time or were strong in recent memory, KH2 and BBS especially (those games are all about aesthetic tie-ins to FFX-2/Advent Children and Crisis Core, respectively).
The Compilation of FF7 is dead as a doornail, so I don't expect to see it get a ton of play; nor do I expect to see The World Ends With You cameos in KH3.
I wouldn't be *surprised* to see Lightning show up in KH3, but if anything I expect that game's cameos to have a really strong focus on FFXV characters because they'll be coming out around the same time and because Nomura's the one directing both games (and tie-ins can't hurt to raise fan interest in both).
[To expand: KH1 has cameos from FFVII, FFVIII, and FFX characters, since it predated the spinoff/FF7 compilation era, and was mostly about showcasing old Nomura character designs, but the strong fan interest in Sephiroth/Cloud stuff in that game was a part of what got Advent Children off the ground.
KH2 has cameos from FFIV, FFVII, FFVIII, FFIX, FFX, and FFX-2 characters, but the greatest focus in terms of story tie-in was on the PS2-era stuff, Advent Children included.]
That is what I'm hearing for the most part, but others have said they have indeed ran out. *shrugs* I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.
Uncle Rupee
Banned
Watching the Gametrailers review, and this looks like everything I have come to despise about Square-Enix.
And ugh that voice acting... that lame dialog / writing...
And ugh that voice acting... that lame dialog / writing...
Heh. I might not agree with any of your opinions, but I can respect a man that stands by his word.
fluffydelusions
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Indeed. Also guess I'm not the only one that noticed that each new FF this gen has looked and ran worse than the previous game (FFXIV on PC the exception, no idea how the PS3 version is there) XIII>XIII-2>LR
Shmuely Bully
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The gameplay is limited, that is different than saying that it was conservative or that the game itself was. It tried to do one thing very well to mixed results and in a way I respect it more for that.
My opinion on the matter is that fpr most Final Fantasies (again with the exception of FFXII which came out near the end of the PS2 era resigning it to a similar fate as IX/VI) the gameplay as defined by the combat system is very safe. Final Fantasy XIII's wasn't and threw out a lot of things that had come to define the franchise.
None of this is to say it worked out swimmingly, but then again the linearity of FFX ticked me off too and a lot of people seem to love that. Barring changes to the combat system I don't see a reasonable explanation for that.
tiggerkiddo
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XIV runs fine on the PS3, nowhere near as smooth as the PC version but it is certainly playable. I know plenty of people who play on it.
Suzushiiro
Banned
I'd imagine she'll get a cameo in any situation that calls for cameos from old FF games, KH3 included. Badcrumble has a point, though, in that KH FF cameos tend to focus more on more current properties, and the XIII trilogy will be old news by the time KH3 comes out. She might show up, but she probably won't be as important as, say, Auron in KH1.
It was unplayable at some points on launch though. I remember the big FATEs were rather unplayable at the start. It'll probably be better now mind you. I assume they'll have done some patches, and also there won't be thousands of people trying to do the same FATES like when everyone was levelling up.
Suzushiiro
Banned
Parish points that out in the USGamer review- a big reason why XIII was so linear was that the engine sucked at wide open spaces. So when XIII-2 and LR try and do them anyway, they look/run worse than XIII as a result.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
It still is pretty unplayable in many situations like the Extreme Mode Garuda fight. I would advise all PS3 users to either get the PS4 version or PC version if they are serious about the game.
I play on PS3. I play a melee DPS. I have my Garuda XM ring.
badcrumble
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I don't think this is entirely correct, though. Gran Pulse in FFXIII was massive and ran quite well (at least on the PS3 - I know that this area in particular choked pretty badly on the 360). It's bigger than any of the areas in FFXIII-2, honestly, outside of Academia (which doesn't generally require huge draw distances).
It likely has more to do with shorter development cycles and less time to debug/optimize than with issues inherent to the engine, IMO.
Corronchilejano
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They wrote her to be a walking emotionless robot. Also, apparently in 500 hundred years no one gets to have character development.
The only annoying thing about Lightning for me right now is the horrible one liners she spouts after every battle. Everything else is alright, but I'm not too far in.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I'm not a FFXIII expert, but I did hate that game with a passion. This is...decidedly more entertaining. The combat isn't as great as it looks in videos and mostly consists of holding down an attack button (not even pushing it) and hitting R1/L1.
I don't have an issue with Lightning's VA, but I haven't had three games to get sick of her either. I actually enjoy the customization, so I'm part of the problem, I suppose.
Now, they totally fucked up by stuffing in a ridiculous time mechanic. Nothing like having a great wide area full of quests to tackle and everything locked behind time walls, forced level ends and a super visible treadmill that makes you fight enemies to gain points to stop time so you can fight more enemies to gain points to stop time.
It's really not utter shit so far!
I don't have an issue with Lightning's VA, but I haven't had three games to get sick of her either. I actually enjoy the customization, so I'm part of the problem, I suppose.
Now, they totally fucked up by stuffing in a ridiculous time mechanic. Nothing like having a great wide area full of quests to tackle and everything locked behind time walls, forced level ends and a super visible treadmill that makes you fight enemies to gain points to stop time so you can fight more enemies to gain points to stop time.
It's really not utter shit so far!
I loved loved loved the battle system in the demo.
I didn't play either of the previous XIIIs. I don't care about the story. If that battle system continues to give more options and doesn't get too easy (demo was too easy) then I'll probably pick it up once I finish Bravely Default.
I didn't play either of the previous XIIIs. I don't care about the story. If that battle system continues to give more options and doesn't get too easy (demo was too easy) then I'll probably pick it up once I finish Bravely Default.
PshycoNinja
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I want to get as much of FFGAF in on this avatar bet with Perfo as possible. Whoever posts the most amusing avatar (as judged by me) I will give to Perfo.
Let's begin. Have fun.
Let's begin. Have fun.
kunonabi
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Her actress isn't the problem she's great as Palutena in Kid Icarus.
SoraanTribal
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It's actually better if you don't hold down the button. If you time your buttons correctly, you'll get a "Perfect" damage bonus (a yellow aura will appear around Lightning when you time it correctly). Basically, you press the next button as soon as the animation is finished on the last one if I remember correctly. But yeah, holding it down isn't as efficient. There's also "Perfect Guards" - if you time your guard when the hit is landing, you'll usually reduce the damage completely.
Tathanen
Get Inside Her!
SoraanTribal
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DarkLordMalik
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WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Oh, shit. I must have missed that tutorial about the attacks. The guard I knew about. I swear I read all of them though. Appppparreently not
zenosparadox
Member
Oh man... I love it.
Not yet, but I sure hope it will be.
Mr. Poolman
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She never shows that much emotion.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
The front runner so far..
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
I think at this point all that remains to me and loyal fans to do is to crystalize and become an eternal epitaph like our heroine, to symbolize the loss of Final Fantasy and preserve its memory to the tomorrow yet to be. Perhaps there, in the distant future, the series will wake up again with no haters around and everything will be good again. Yes. It'll be.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Maybe you'll wake up and the games will be good again.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Perfo is either gloriously insane or a truly radiant troll
I need sunglasses to stand in your presence
I need sunglasses to stand in your presence
Oh and everybody shouldnt worry about the timer. They could have the game without this stupid timer, because you can stop time anytime you want with GP... and you get GP with defeating enemies. On easy mode many enemies drop 4 GP and Chronostasis (time stop) costs 1GP and stops time for about 3-4 minutes (I don't know exactly how long, could be longer or shorter). I did every main quest and the sub quest for the optional stuff and had 7 days to play around with... or well I skipped them because there was nothing good to do.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
oh god yes.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
I can hardly imagine better games than FFXIII, a game I personally rate with a perfect score. XIII-2 and LR are nice spinoffs, better products than Crystal Bearers, Crisis Core, Revenant Wings and Dirge of Cerberus so I can accept them not being perfect as a main entry. They're still among the best spinoffs the series ever had. If this wasn't 2014 but 1997/1999, XIII-2 and LR would've been welcomed with much more love. Trust me.
Most of these reviews tell you can't finish the game without a game over. Well... it tells alot about the reviews, doesn't it?
So majestic.
PshycoNinja
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Isn't this avatar already taken by someone else? If not this is the current front runner.
I am going to wait until 12AM PST to see if we can get anything funnier or better. If not than this will most likely become Perfo's new avatar.
Nope, nope nope nope nope nope nope and no.
Crisis Core will always be a far better game than ANY game out of the XIII "saga".
air jordans for dogs
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So happy this trilogy is over. Hopefully someone competent works on the next game, and surely that awful, pandering Lightning character will never be seen again.
badcrumble
Member
Eh, disagree. Crisis Core was reallllly grindy, IIRC.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I was wondering why y'all were giving Perfo such a hard time. FFXIII a perfect score? It makes sense now.
A mix of both, primarily the latter I think.
This is good to hear. There was no doubt in my mind that there would be good ways to get everything out of the game without being frustrated by time restrictions.
I'm looking forward to playing it based on the fun I had with the demo. Playing, mind you. The rest can go away for all I care. The combat is what will keep me in it.
Mr. Poolman
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If only you could fit a "fans killed FF, not the games" it would be perfect
theprodigy
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I think it's more of the former