Fancy Clown
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I thought Outlast looked pretty great...
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I thought Outlast looked pretty great...
Far Cry 3 was an excellent game, though, and it still looked good despite failing to match the original concept demo.
Well, I've been posting here since 1999 so perhaps my perspective is a bit screwed. :X
It really has no bearing on the conversation of the Watch_Dogs downgrade. It has nothing to do with anything. It's a trivial statement that is just going to give her more needless headaches and I'm not sure that's good to do in an already bad environment.
Broken Hope
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It doesn't matter if it was or wasn't, she's official PR for a company, you don't slate another games graphics publicly on a PR account.
Bl4ckSunsh1n3
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Definitely not a visual masterpiece but, not crappy either.
Clockwork5
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At least she is right about Outlast.
Vulcano's assistant
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Outlast was the Crysis of its day, yo.
Agreed. Everyone's entitled to their opinion. She needs to be more self-aware in regards to what she puts on Twitter ... really social media in general. I mean, her job is public relations after all. Just not a good look.
Yes, it's not the right thing to say, but I don't think we should berate her to the point of being fired like some people here seem ready to do. That kind of shit makes me sick to my stomach, to be honest.
This is really all that needs to be said of the matter.
I'm just waiting to I see more of a game(trailer wise) before I judge it. One video claiming to be the PS4 version won't make me decide if Ubi have downgraded WD or not. Isn't there a Sony game play trailer of it soon?
WeAreStarStuff
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Is this a newer gif? It looks great.
I think this looks great as well.
Deadly Cyclone
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Well, it's a statement saying gameplay trumps graphics, really. Weird of a Ubi PR person to say, but it is what it is.
jhmtehgamr20xx
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It was already in lockdown mode after the delay :S
But yeah Im'ma just keep saying, lots of overreactions in this thread. Especially over a game's looks.
It really isn't, personal opinion and all that. The entire second island felt like a waste, the main mission variety wasn't varied nearly enough nor was there enough diversity with locales on the island itself. Climbing all the weapon towers and binge hunting animals for a couple hours to upgrade everything made the game a cake walk.
Really middling overall.
JustinJ004
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Half the problem in this industry is people having to sugar coat their opinions or just plain bullshitting to avoid upsetting someone.
Outlast is a great game that is fugly as well. Simple fact (love the game personally).
I like a bit of real talk in my PR, what she said wasn't even offensive and definitely doesn't warrant any kind of backlash although it's a great excuse for the no gifs so I'm not complaining.
OT I don't think WDs looks all that bad but it's certainly a disappointment.
chickdigger802
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would love to be a fly on the wall in these meetings. Either the lighting problems is a bug, design change (game is too grim, lets make it brighter!), or late game requirement to get the games to perform well on the new systems.
Anyhow, lighting issues don't make or break a game for me as long as the player animations still look mostly alright... which atm they still do, but who knows what big downgrades will happen in the next few months!
Anyhow, lighting issues don't make or break a game for me as long as the player animations still look mostly alright... which atm they still do, but who knows what big downgrades will happen in the next few months!
Ah, that makes sense. Yeah, I was just curious. It sounds like you're good to go, though!
Heavy's Sandvich
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Not as graphically impressive as E3 reveal = game having awful graphics?
Is that what the thread is saying?
Is that what the thread is saying?
gamerforever
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Nope, it is saying that the graphics are hugely off the target footage and even PS4 footage previously shown.
Had this been the very first footage of the game we would have said it looks 'ok'.
BigDaddyFatSack
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Not surprised. This type of practice is still common. Look at Deep Down also.
AMAZING graphics in the first e3 trailer. Sub-par current gen level graphics in real time demo.
AMAZING graphics in the first e3 trailer. Sub-par current gen level graphics in real time demo.
Not the reasonable folks. You always have a few outliers.
The Blackrose
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Clockwork5
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Happens all the time. Not a big deal. Anyone who thinks it is inflammatory to say Outlast has crappy visuals is simply looking for a fight. It is a non-issue.
You ask for them to lose the PR speak, and when they do you throw them to the wolves. Time and time again.
Putting "real talk" in PR is the reason Adam Orth got fired. You toe the company line as PR or you get shitcanned.
What Orth said and what this person is saying aren't on the same level, mind you, but slamming another person's game on an official company Twitter is not good for business (especially since Ubi is in damage control mode right now). They don't want a manufactured controversy on top of an actual controversy.
TheOctodad
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It's a poorly crafted statement that says gameplay trumps graphics from a PR account that is currently being lambasted for lackluster graphics. It's not a very good response at all.
She's not wrong in her facts, but that doesn't make it a good response. It's like your wife asking you if she looks fat and responding with, "Well statistically, you have less body fat than 40% of women and I think your personality is what shines through!"
That may be true, but it that doesn't make it smart.
Yup. Part of why everyone in this industry is made of plastic is the fact that even consumers are way too sensitive about everything.
There are million ways you can word it, like "Super Mario 64 looks outdated by today's standards yet it's still fun!" or just leave it at that and don't respond to the Twitter users comment. You don't need to shit on a indie game made by a few folks to prove your point.
Clockwork5
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1 nothing was slammed, she said it was a good game.
2 Outlast looks like crap on my PS4.
3 has no effect on business.
TheLostBigBoss
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Hope you like waiting.
Daffy Duck
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At least Red Barrels can meet a deadline.
TheOctodad
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nelsonroyale
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Okay, looking at these screens, the cutscene models do hold up well. Detail is good, and geomtery in this faces does look at least as good. They look good for sure.
Personally, I think in motion the lighting looks nicer in the Infamous cutscenes and also fabric looks at least as good when you can see them in decent clarity. You could have picked other scenes from the trailer of course where things don't come together quite as opportunely. For instance, when he is walking beneath the sky scrapers with his hands in his pockets. Maybe it is a lower LoD face or the lighting is poor, but it didn' t look particularly impressive. I don't think WD looks as good as the cutscenes at all in gameplay. Personally, I think Infamous gets much closer.
chickdigger802
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wait people are hating on outlast visuals?
I recall it looked fine on pc.
I recall it looked fine on pc.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I'm just gonna wait for gamersyde footage and subscribing to this thread before claiming a downgrade I seen the story and it looks fantastic but those lastgen graphics people are claiming to representation of what actually looks like........... I'd hate to be some people in here if the game actually looks amazing and nothing like that gif.
Consumer blaming. Is that you Kuchera?
XANDER CAGE
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To be fair, I think Outlast has more dynamic lights than anything we saw in the new Watch Dogs footage.
Lapidus' Beard
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Her reactions almost remind me of that PR lady from the EU PlayStation blog at the time the SingStore was forced onto to the XMB. Never heard from her again.
JustinJ004
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Well I didn't read it as slamming at all and would expect anyone who has played the game to completely agree with her but that's just me.
Shitstorm over nothing.
Clockwork5
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Its a lot of us.
Her hyping the fuck out of Watch Dogs is just as fake as stone cold PR people. Her position as hypeman is part of the plastic kingdom.
ArkkAngel007
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While that line of PR was a huge mistake, we're blowing it out of proportion, as well as going OT.
After all, plenty of things we've said, while maybe 100% correct or justified, were not the proper thing to say in that situation. Both here and probably our work environments. Not worth crusading over just because it involves a topic what many of us are getting hot over. She's not trying to slam Outlast...seems to actually be complimenting it that it's great despite the graphics in what was a no-no in inputting personal opinion.
As for her hyping up Watch Dogs as Ubisoft PR outside of that line, what else are you expecting?
After all, plenty of things we've said, while maybe 100% correct or justified, were not the proper thing to say in that situation. Both here and probably our work environments. Not worth crusading over just because it involves a topic what many of us are getting hot over. She's not trying to slam Outlast...seems to actually be complimenting it that it's great despite the graphics in what was a no-no in inputting personal opinion.
As for her hyping up Watch Dogs as Ubisoft PR outside of that line, what else are you expecting?
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