Titanfall boosts Xbox One UK sales by 96%, Tea and Crumpets for all!

So just for rough ballpark figures, lets say that XB1 is sitting at 450k in the UK, and the XB1 version of Titanfall sold those 125k units (PC will be pretty negligible). That works out to a 28% attach rate.

Assuming that US sales will be ~2.5M by the end of March (maybe slightly higher), a similar attach rate would give Titanfall around 700k sales in the US.

PC sales won't have been negligible in the UK , gimme a break.

And the thread is about hardware sales , not how many copies TF will sell.

Given how front loaded games sales are it seems trying to work out US monthly sales using 3 days of UK sales data is nuts. These numbers won't continue for the remainder if the month here.
 
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Yeah form the charts it did look like more stock came in.
 
So if the US follows suit with the UK then we could be looking at something like 700-800k sales of Titanfall in the US. Not bad at all.

I could see pushing 400k, but even that doesn't feel like I'm lowballing it. The NE district of best buy has sold 120 xb1 since launch and 300 copies of the game. This with the district receiving 350ish bundles and 1200 copies of the game. There's no crazy velocity, just a similar speed to last month, at least xb1 wise. The game is selling well definitely.
 
This could be good, or it could be insignificant.

Way to straddle the line. I would think it IS good as any uptick in sales is a good thing. Its significance is relative to what you are trying to measure it by? Increase in poor sales to get them to decent sales I would say is significant. If you were expecting them to suddenly over take Sony sales then probably not as significant but still its moving in the direction they need to be going.

Bottom line I think this is indeed good news and significant for Microsoft in the UK.
 
I could see pushing 400k, but even that doesn't feel like I'm lowballing it. The NE district of best buy has sold 120 xb1 since launch and 300 copies of the game. This with the district receiving 350ish bundles and 1200 copies of the game. There's no crazy velocity, just a similar speed to last month, at least xb1 wise. The game is selling well definitely.

So correct me if I'm wrong, but you're saying that since Titanfall's launch, the XB1 has sold about as well as it did in February?
 
Man MS really better buy up that exclusivity come Tf2...although I imagine Titanfall has already done its job of moving X1 for early adopters.
 
I could see pushing 400k, but even that doesn't feel like I'm lowballing it. The NE district of best buy has sold 120 xb1 since launch and 300 copies of the game. This with the district receiving 350ish bundles and 1200 copies of the game. There's no crazy velocity, just a similar speed to last month, at least xb1 wise. The game is selling well definitely.

400k is only like 1/6th of the US install base though, that sounds a bit low for a game like this at the start of a new gen when new software is scarce.
 
PC sales won't have been negligible in the UK , gimme a break.

And the thread is about hardware sales , not how many copies TF will sell.

Given how front loaded games sales are it seems trying to work out US monthly sales using 3 days of UK sales data is nuts. These numbers won't continue for the remainder if the month here.

PC retail is pretty negligible in the UK as well. PC and Wii U split a 1% share of retail Call of Duty Ghosts launch sales. Someone else mentioned 5% of that 125k minimum. I just discarded the 7-8k PC sales to make the math easier.
 
Yep big stock came in, however only bundles at game and amazon dont have the stand alone in yet. It really is nuts how quick these get snapped up.

I used to complain about bundles, until I found out the only way I could buy a PS4 from the Sony Korea store is if I buy a $900 head mounted display with it!!!
 
Someone said that the PC sales only counted for about 5% of the sales as they don't include digital sales in these figures.

From Origin , sure. They do include sales from the likes of GmG and SimplyCDKeys (simply games ) and all the other key sites who just email codes from retail boxes.
 
Way to straddle the line. I would think it IS good as any uptick in sales is a good thing. Its significance is relative to what you are trying to measure it by? Increase in poor sales to get them to decent sales I would say is significant. If you were expecting them to suddenly over take Sony sales then probably not as significant but still its moving in the direction they need to be going.

Bottom line I think this is indeed good news and significant for Microsoft in the UK.
You couldn't possibly deduce that it's good news, given that we have no indication of how much Microsoft paid for exclusivity, Microsoft's expectations for Titanfall in terms of sales upticks, whether or not Titanfall or the Xbox One will maintain this momentum going forward, or any other number of endogenous factors in determining the success or failure of a strategic endeavor. If Microsoft slashed the Xbox One's price in half and the sales only doubled, would you think it was good news because "any uptick in sales is a good thing"? What a silly sentiment. Context.
 
PC sales won't have been negligible in the UK , gimme a break.

And the thread is about hardware sales , not how many copies TF will sell.

Given how front loaded games sales are it seems trying to work out US monthly sales using 3 days of UK sales data is nuts. These numbers won't continue for the remainder if the month here.

I already provided one example in this thread of a game with a similar sales trajectory. I'm sure I could find others (RS Vegas 2, Army of 2, Gears of War 1) with similar ranges.

And pc retail sales are negligible in the UK (and the US), the One version was >94% of the week one retail sales for TF.
 
From Origin , sure. They do include sales from the likes of GmG and SimplyCDKeys (simply games ) and all the other key sites who just email codes from retail boxes.

GMG is an actual digital distributor. They don't email CD keys from retail boxes.
 
Because it depends on what period. If they're comparing the sales from a bunch of people picking up Titanfall bundles on day 1 from preorders, and comparing it to just the previous week when most people stopped buying the system because the Titanfall bundle was announced and was going to be cheaper, and their total gain is only 2x of that slower week due to anticipation of the bundle which was basically a price drop, that's not a whole lot of sales.

In other words, they're using percentage numbers to sound impressive, but are shying away from using any real numbers which always should throw up red flags when it happens.

Exactly.

So Titanfall boosted Xbone and PS4 sales by 96% and 72% respectively ?

That's pretty good I guess.
It really is a system seller....even if it's non-existent on the system*

*Except WiiU and PSV
 
So correct me if I'm wrong, but you're saying that since Titanfall's launch, the XB1 has sold about as well as it did in February?

No, no. I'm saying it's sold at a similar pace. The velocity of sales aren't trending higher than February, but definitely better then January, at least for best buy sales. If you want to make a fast comparison, our site has over 1100 reviews of the x1 version of the game, but the bundle with tf included had 8 the last i saw this morning. After a week of launch in November, there was over 800 reviews of the system.
 
There's no sense adding more people to the team unless you need them. If anything they'll try to look at how to do more with the same people they've already got. For all we know team size may not be the deciding factor there's no SP, that could have been a design choice.

Also more people on a dev team doesn't automatically make for a better game.

It's nowhere near 3 million in U.S. The estimate is closer to 2.25 million.
They clearly need more people. Adding a single player and adding more overall content on top of having something better than the average graphics that we've seen is going to need more than they currently have. They've even hinted they focused on MP since they didn't have a lot of people.
 
Imcan't believe i'm saying this but even i'm considering getting an Xbone, it's super cheap at Walmart here in Mexico, it went from $570 to $450 if you buy online :O, i still don't see it pulling PS4 numbers anytine soon.
 
It does? I thought we couldn't tell anything at all from these figures?

Well, its pretty much safe to say PS4 is performing better in UK than the xbone. We will see how Infamous and MGS GZ perform and how that influences PS4 sales, as the demand seems to be still big and Sony still not supplying enough systems.
 
It means PS4 sales wasn't dampened by the huge Titanfall launch. PS4 still sells well when stock is made available.

No real numbers, still meaningless for comparison.

How can it mean anything when we don't know what the PS4 sold the week before, when there was no stock? All through this thread people have been saying we can't tell anything and I agree with them. Can't change that now.
 
Way to straddle the line. I would think it IS good as any uptick in sales is a good thing. Its significance is relative to what you are trying to measure it by? Increase in poor sales to get them to decent sales I would say is significant. If you were expecting them to suddenly over take Sony sales then probably not as significant but still its moving in the direction they need to be going.

Bottom line I think this is indeed good news and significant for Microsoft in the UK.

Which we don't know. Which was the point of my post.

I straddle the line because that is all I can do with "96%".
 
All these Amazon links are not truly representative of what is actually selling -- well at least right now we don't know. For example in February wasn't the ps4 always ahead of xbox one by a huge margin in ranking? That didn't mean that the xbox actually had a big bump and came pretty close to ps4. Correct me if i'm wrong.
 
They clearly need more people. Adding a single player and adding more overall content on top of having something better than the average graphics that we've seen is going to need more than they currently have. They've even hinted they focused on MP since they didn't have a lot of people.

I see it more like they they could better organize the people already there, and maybe hire a few scenario writers. "Better graphics" will mostly come down to better textures, as they already have the engine up and running, and assets already developed they can use as bases for new models, and improving on old ones. The online network is already in place, etc.

TBH they've accomplished a hell of lot with their team and to make a "full rounded" package next time around will likely tax them more creatively than technically, since again, a lot of the fundamentals and assets are already there.

Team size shouldn't need to suddenly balloon 2x for the sequel.
 
"biggest debut of year by over 2X" What is the other 2014 title?..... DK?

That title edit is slightly incorrect. It sold over 2x of FIFA14's Week 1 2014, which wasn't exactly a debut to speak of.

But actually, it would be more than double of actual debuts (DK, Thief, Lego), because we know games released this year debuted at less than FIFA14's Week 1 2014 sales.
 
How can it mean anything when we don't know what the PS4 sold the week before, when there was no stock? All through this thread people have been saying we can't tell anything and I agree with them. Can't change that now.

It's obvious that both the Xbone and PS4 rose in sales from their previous weeks. We can't say exactly how many, but the fact does remain. What people are trying to say however is not to let the 96% go to your head as we have no clue what the hard numbers are. There's no flopping going around here.
 
You couldn't possibly deduce that it's good news, given that we have no indication of how much Microsoft paid for exclusivity, Microsoft's expectations for Titanfall in terms of sales upticks, whether or not Titanfall or the Xbox One will maintain this momentum going forward, or any other number of endogenous factors in determining the success or failure of a strategic endeavor. If Microsoft slashed the Xbox One's price in half and the sales only doubled, would you think it was good news because "any uptick in sales is a good thing"? What a silly sentiment. Context.

We do know that MS did cut the price by 30 pounds in the UK, we also know they introduced a bundle with Titanfall to go along with that. We also know that their sales in the UK were struggling in the face of their competitor. Seeing their sales almost double with the introduction of these moves is good news as it seems their plan did bear fruit. And "any uptick in sales is a good thing" is hardly a silly sentiment. Positive numbers are positive signs. Not sure how you can not see that as being good?
 
It's obvious that both the Xbone and PS4 rose in sales from their previous weeks. We can't say exactly how many, but the fact does remain. What people are trying to say however is not to let the 96% go to your head as we have no clue what the hard numbers are. There's no flopping going around here.

The 96% doesn't seem to have went to anyones head.
 
All these Amazon links are not truly representative of what is actually selling -- well at least right now we don't know. For example in February wasn't the ps4 always ahead of xbox one by a huge margin in ranking? That didn't mean that the xbox actually had a big bump and came pretty close to ps4. Correct me if i'm wrong.

Difference in rankings don't really amount to quantifiable numbers. The no.1 product could easily be selling 10x more than product no.2, but the difference between product 2 and product 10 are only 100 units.

That's why UK/PAL charts often show PS4 SKUs only ranking slightly better than XB1 SKUs, even when Amazon shows a large ranking gap. The gap isn't entirely reflective.

However, it can be used as a relative gauge. Relatively, whatever is reflected on Amazon doesn't run far in hierarchy, even if the rankings may not be accurate.
 
Does anyone have hardware numbers? Percentages are meaningless without something to put them into context.
 
Bam! That's a nice ass jump. Manufactured hype be damned! The game is great fun and well deserving of being played by millions. I'm starting to kick ass at the game. Screw running around on the ground. It's all about wall running.
 
All these Amazon links are not truly representative of what is actually selling -- well at least right now we don't know. For example in February wasn't the ps4 always ahead of xbox one by a huge margin in ranking? That didn't mean that the xbox actually had a big bump and came pretty close to ps4. Correct me if i'm wrong.

Well, first of all, there is huge differences between Amazon US and Amazon other countries.

Then for February, Amazon US was actually rarely in stock with PS4, which is what you are talking about.

Amazon UK is rarely ever in stock with PS4 so we cant judge anything UK based on Amazon UK numbers.
 
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