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[CrunchyFrog]

Christmas 2015 :/

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Did they specify is 8.1 is required?

Nope.

 

[Handy Fake]

I think if there was any real performance boost to the XBOne, they wouldn't have skirted over it quite that quickly...

 

[FullMetaltech]

Yikes target for Holiday 2015 games. I wonder why so far off.

 

[Caayn]

Yea, doubt it. Considering MS' track record with porting their 1st party Xbox stuff.

If MS released a decent version of GFWL and it got of the ground. We might have seen more MS games on PC.

 

[BennyBlanco]

If all this performance stuff pans out on a tangible level, I will upgrade to 8.1. I'm riding with my gxt670 until maxwell cards come out so any boost to efficiency will be worth dealing with Metro UI. (Ugh)

 

[ashecitism]

hardware adoption rates weren't the problem for the dx9-10 transition, it was everyone sticking with windows xp since nobody wanted vista

now dx12 will be tied to windows 8.1 and we'll probably see a similar effect, though possibly not as bad

yeah, it's also one of the reasons Valve is pushing OGL. In China the majority still use XP, but have modern hardware running under their machines. So with OGL they can exploit that hw as it's not tied down to certain OS versions.

 

[Steverulez]

Microsoft seems to have this weird view I cannot understand that PC Gaming (which is predominately Windows based) is a direct competitor to it's own Xbox platform.

If Microsoft release everything they make on PC as well as Xbox people won't buy an Xbox console because they can get it on PC. MS has no need to put games on Windows, probably almost nobody will decide to buy a Windows machine for their games

 

[fwpx]

Xbone sleeper agent confirmed.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

MS, just don't tie this to Windows +8, We need all devs to use this.

Agreed. MS can go fuck themselves if DX12 is W8+ only...

 

[VisceralBowl]

 

[Impeccable]

... Holiday 2015?...

 

[chadskin]

And I thought misterxmedias insider said MS has been working years on this and DX12 is not in response to Mantle. Not sure what to think now!

 

[ekim]

Early access coming this year.

 

[sflufan]

So what's the chance that MS will sit on the PC build of Forza and never release it to us?

100%

 

[GreyWind]

 

[Doffen]

i for one think they'll definitely put forza 5 out on PC

Spoiler

exclusively for the windows 8 microsoft store

I doubt it will be Windows Store exclusive if it's released.

 

[Angelus Errare]

If MS released a decent version of GFWL and it got of the ground. We might have seen more MS games on PC.

Oh god please no.

 

[Hoo-doo]

Lol, that shit takes goddamn forever. I'd have expected DX15 by then.

 

[justsomeguy]

HOLiYDAY 2015

I kinda expected that date. They started working on DX12 veeeery recently.

Inside info?
Was it sparked by Mantle?

 

[Dr.Schlomo]

Holiday 2015? Fucking bullshit.

Do people still not realize this is GDC and not E3? It's the exact same reason the PS4 VR isn't launching this year. This is for DEVELOPERS not consumers...

 

[JaggedSac]

Wow, 2015 games, with a preview release this year.

 

[fluffydelusions]

2015? hype deflated

 

[VisceralBowl]

Win7 is a no go from what I gather.

 

[Gestault]

Microsoft seems to have this weird view I cannot understand that PC Gaming (which is predominately Windows based) is a direct competitor to it's own Xbox platform.

Considering the ways (and reasons) companies invest in console platforms, I understand exactly why they'd feel that way.

 

[ethomaz]

So MisterX will change the dGPU/SecretSauce NDA to Christmas 2015...

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Win7 is a no go from what I gather.

What...?

 

[EternalTruth]

Holiday 2015

Too long

O well a lot of developers still haven't made the switch to DX11 yet haha

One more reason why last gen and cross-gen games specifically need to go away...

 

[aeolist]

wat?

Why would it?

because the CPU hardware on the xbone is identical to the PS4, so differences between software running on both can be attributed to the development environment (which can be improved over time) and a weaker GPU (which obviously can't)

a new graphics API that reduces CPU overhead is great but it won't replace the lost compute units, ROPs, and memory bandwidth that was cut from the xbone to make room for that awkward cache

 

[Nzyme32]

Looks like nothing for windows 7 users. Gotta drive that windows 8. Need to wait for the Q&A to know for sure

 

[Ricerocket]

Holiday 2015... That's a really long wait and the only thing that will give Mantle a chance imo.

 

[ekim]

Q&A now.

 

[mercenar1e]

Scott Michaud: 50% of PC Gamers sounds like they're projecting NOT Windows 7.

 

[Broken Hope]

Probably going to be part of Windows 9 then.

 

[DopeyFish]

Win7 is a no go from what I gather.

Win 8/9 is my guess.

 

[BlackBuzzard]

MisterXmedia: DGPU reveal holiday 2015!

 

[1st Course]

MS, just don't tie this to Windows +8, We need all devs to use this.

By that time there will be Windows 9

 

[munroe]

Nope.

Scott Michaud: 50% of PC Gamers sounds like they're projecting NOT Windows 7

So it's not explicitly stated, but quite possibly Win8+

 

[Erimriv]

I bet Halo 5 for holidays 2015 at 1080p 60fps.

 

[VisceralBowl]

What...?

They aren't talking about it but people are asking. Also 50% of PC gamers at launch in 2015. I think that means no Win7 support.

Luckily I am on 8.1. But as said earlier, Win8/9 is going to be it.

 

[Insane Metal]

Holy shit, holiday 2015.

 

[RadioactiveLobster]

If Microsoft release everything they make on PC as well as Xbox people won't buy an Xbox console because they can get it on PC. MS has no need to put games on Windows, probably almost nobody will decide to buy a Windows machine for their games

If they released their stuff on PC they'd probably get money from me.

Currently they get zero from me as I have no interest in consoles at all and don't plan to purchase one.

 

[Caayn]

Oh god please no.

Past tense Not talking about what we actually got.

 

[GreyWind]

Ryan Shrout: Windows 7 support? Won't be announcing anything today but they understand the request.

 

[chadskin]

a new graphics API that reduces CPU overhead is great but it won't replace the lost compute units, ROPs, and memory bandwidth that was cut from the xbone to make room for that awkward cache

I thought that CPU overhead doesn't exist on consoles anyway? Low level access, coding to the metal etc.

 

[Frayne Daddy]

Gaming is better on windows8 anyways. Embrace the upgrade.

 

[Asd202]

Lol what did you guys expect? Of course it's going to be 2015 it's not like developers would shift to DX12 now.

 

[PG2G]

Windows 9 might be out by Holiday 2015 guys...

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Ryan Shrout: Windows 7 support? Won't be announcing anything today but they understand the request.

They better fucking understand. Why throw W7 under the bus? Not like it's the piece of shit that was Vista.

 

[Angelus Errare]

So MisterX will change the dGPU/SecretSauce NDA to Christmas 2015...

“dGPU made by nvidia that's why they were showing Forza 5 running on Nvidia hardware. the situation is complicated, MS doesn't want to give too much away for sony to rebound. keep digging all will be revealed in 2015.”