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Jay Electronica ft. Jay Z - We Made It (Jay Z returns shots at Drake)
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True, I'll let my irrational hate subside for now.
Dreams-Visions
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He was pretty fuckin popular in the years between Reasonable Doubt and The Black Album.
In fact, I'd say he was probably the most popular rapper of that time outside of maybe Outkast. His shit was always hella anticipated.
lol this guy. how about you read the thread if you're not going to listen to the song and answer your own questions. It's only about 50 posts long.
victreeb3l
Member
They both annoy me now so its enjoyable watching them two go at it.
Drake is a cornball who raps about his fantasies of growing up in the streets and shit. Jay sounds like every bar is sponsored by some corporation these days.
Drake is a cornball who raps about his fantasies of growing up in the streets and shit. Jay sounds like every bar is sponsored by some corporation these days.
BruceLeeRoy
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When has Jay-Z ever not been outshined? Guy is tone deaf
Well he did sell his fans personal info to Samsung for a cool $30m
Ephemeris
Member
for some reason I found this hysterical
I read the thread and listened to the song, champ. It's not really a shot more than it is a simple response. It was hardly aggressive.
So true.
ChubbyHuggs
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His verse?
Drake idolizes Hov. He's put it on record before. So when Jay responds to him saying that he doesn't like Jay's subject matter and then proceeds to call out Drake's questionable claims of being a true boss (Birdman, Wayne, J Prince all make bread off him, forget major label distro guys) and then questions some of the 'harder' tough guy bars Drake has been laying down, it might have Drake feel some type of way, especially since Drake is an openly emotional man.
Pretty reasonable analysis, I think.
bobbychalkers
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I would love to see dude's world tour footage. Some of the stories behind it are crazy.
From Jeymes Samuel's IG page.
I feel like this picture was done solely for some sort of meta thing between the 2 of them.
PhoenixDark
Banned
Wayne doesn't make much of anything, dude is on a slave deal. Drake and Nicki Minaj actually have very good deals. I hate to sound like I'm stanning Drake here but let's be real: dude is eating. This argument wasn't logical when Pusha T made it a few years ago and is even less logical now.
Dreams-Visions
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I would love to see dude's world tour footage. Some of the stories behind it are crazy.
From Jeymes Samuel's IG page.
:O
franknbeans
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i see what you did there
richardhawk
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Angelus Errare
Banned
This.
You're not stanning Drake, you're just taking the anti-Jay viewpoint, no surprises there.
I'm not saying he's not eating or that he doesn't make great real money or popular records, and neither is Hov. I'm saying that Jay is basically saying that Drake isn't on his level; in terms of hustle, gangsta, or recognition. And that will get to Drake. And Pusha T clowning on Drake's hustle isn't the same as Jay doing it.
Jay taking shots at Drake is cheap shit. That's when you know dude is desperate for something. Straight hater shit, just like when Drake got mad at Future. Another fucking unsubstantiated squabble of a beef in hip hop for us to have to deal with for the next few months. Yeah, not a fan. What ever happened to Jay-Zing the situation?
Edit: haven't heard the song yet, just going off of the lyrics Esch posted.
Edit: haven't heard the song yet, just going off of the lyrics Esch posted.
Sorry Mrs. Drizzy cause so much art I talk/
Silly me rapping bout shit I really bought/
While these rappers rap about guns they aint shot/
and a bunch of other shit that they aint got
That's the diss?
Man.. that's... awful.
...Responding to a major artist who calls you corny is desperate and unsubstantiated? It's not like he called him names or even went in on him, he just gave him a couple bars on some 'watch your mouth' shit. Plus the rest of his verse was good, it had content.
When Jay responds to people, it's petty. When he doesn't respond to people, he's a coward.
Just some warning shots telling him to keep his name out of his mouth.
If this amounts to anything, Jay will go harder than this. Drake is a goldmine.
PhoenixDark
Banned
The point is the argument wasn't accurate by either of them.
How does Drake rap about stuff he doesn't have? That's my beef with the line: it's not accurate. If Jay said that about Young Jeezy or a host of other "fake it till you make it" types I'd buy it. Hell even if he dissed Ross like that I'd be inclined to buy it.
Drake isn't a boss but he's on his way. Again, I'm not stanning Drake. But Jay has a penchant for attacking people based on money, and in this case he seems to be off base.
Yes it's unsubstantiated, it was a critique and not an insult, and Jay took it as an insult. He played the sonning card because he was hurt by a critique, not an insult. And he knows how much Drake looks up to him and considers him on a higher plateau, that hasn't changed either.
When Jay responds to people, it's when it has escalated to the point where he has to say something. When he doesn't respond to people, he's showing he truly is above all of these pointless squabbles. And this is 100% a pointless squabble. He didn't have to say shit about this, maybe address it in an interview, but no he took it personally. This is clearly not the Def Jam dynasty Jay anymore who would be above other major artists insulting him, let alone just stating their preferences and getting mad about it.
EDIT: if this is new, I guess he was hurt by how Rosenberg had brought it to light that he has been riding Ye's coattails for a while too.
OfWhiteSkinOnRedLeather
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Dissing Drake is fucking laughable; there isn't an easier target in the rap game. It's like picking on the autistic kid at recess.
I find it shocking (in a personal way) that as a child of the late 80s and early 90s who grew up on the first wave of break through rappers...that I wouldnt be able to recognize Drakes voice (I thought he was a singer lol) and I really have no freaking clue who or what Jay Electronic is.
I will google these people...
I will google these people...
I mean in these streets, homie.
Pretty sure GAFHOP disliked the album as well.
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Fair enough, but it's not about accuracy dude. It doesn't need to be either. He's not writing a point by point rebuttal of Drake. He's just saying cmon son, you're not on my level.
Drake also took a shot at American Gangster as well earlier this year saying it was just crack songs (a fair statement). So that's two times he criticised Jay's work. Plus, a lot of people have been taking shots at him for a minute now; for what he raps about, what he does with his money, how he acts, dresses. As far as Jay not responding during post-Black Album era... He called out Jim Jones, Game, and Dame on the BP3 intro. Shots at Game on the Grammy Family Freestyle Subs at Birdman and Wayne on HAM.
Do you motherfuckers listen to music or just skim through it?
BruceLeeRoy
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Jay has the ability to produce great music but he should never ever step in front of a mic.
His best songs are the ones where the music is strong enough that it is able to transcend his awful voice.
TheLaughingStock
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Lol
Just curious, do you not like Blueprint or Reasonable Doubt either?
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