BruceLeeRoy
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He's good because most of the tracks drown out his voice and the music is loud enough to cover over him.
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Jay Electronica ft. Jay Z - We Made It (Jay Z returns shots at Drake)
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He's good because most of the tracks drown out his voice and the music is loud enough to cover over him.
Go listen to watch the throne. And if you want a more recent proof; The Devil Is A Lie.
I don't know if you're hating on this verse (disagree, it was dope and had good content), but Jay's problem isn't 100% his skill falling off. It's his laziness on his own projects. On features he delivers good verses, especially on Devil Is a Lie etc.
I seem to recall you being mad at jay/bey for not being pro black enough though, so i'm surprised you're not feeling the content here. Unless you think the 5% are racists, which is understandable.
TheLaughingStock
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Wish I could wind the clock back on OGs like Snoop, Jay, and Ice Cube. Terrible.....
highrider
Banned
Couldn't agree more. It's the same droning style he's always done since the 90's. He's never in the pocket, and usually detracts from the quality of his tracks. Great commercial instincts though, can't hate on him.
Oh look at that, all of those examples you listed stem from insults and not people stating their preferences, only further proving it isn't worth it. First, it's not like Jay hasn't responded to general criticisms of people thinking he's basically gone bougie on us, he does so in interviews and it's become a frequent topic in his raps about actually being bout the life he lives about and not some caricature. And that warrants singling out Drake because he wasn't feeling American Gangster (perhaps the concept went over his head, but still) and maybe Drake liked a different side of Jay's music? Yeah Jay needs to grow some balls if he's threatened by preferences. I can't believe you're arguing that this is worthwhile based on some preferences. The old Jay wouldn't have responded to something so petty, from a major artist or not, hence where Jay-Zing the situation comes from.
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
Migos using their flow>>>>>>>>>>> anybody else using it.
This is dope though. Jay-Z feels like rapping again? If we get a project with Devil Is A Lie and this version of Jay, it might be special.
Is this Jay Electronica season?
Definitely.
This is dope though. Jay-Z feels like rapping again? If we get a project with Devil Is A Lie and this version of Jay, it might be special.
Is this Jay Electronica season?
Definitely.
I actually enjoyed his lyrics on some of the songs and I felt he played well off Kayne.
Manga Carta was such trash though.
"Corny" isn't an insult? Not in my world. Also Jay responds to people not liking his shit/him all the time (love it or leave it alone, motherfuckers). In fact I'd say it's a major aspect of his music. People hating on him and then him responding by pointing out his career. The old Jay-Z has always, always been petty. It's just that the way he responds to things is always calculated....
I don't think it's 'worthwhile', but I do think it's funny to see Drake get put down, because he's so gassed up on himself
And his verse was nice. Still not understanding the hate. Lol, jay ain't never gonna go back to his glory days so really there's no point in getting angry about it. That's why I try to enjoy the last few good verses he has left in the form of features. The devil is a lie had a good verse from him too.
CassidyIzABeast
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Jay has been beating us over the head with his painter name drops since Pressure off of Food and Liquor.
Junior Mint
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AW SHIT JAY ELECTRIC
Byakuya769
Member
Blatant hating.
I can understand not giving two shits about Drake, but you should check for Jay Electric.
No he shouldn't. Don't give jay anymore fans until he actually drops an album.
His verse reminds me of when lupe fiasco was still alive. Rest in piece to that poor boy.
BruceLeeRoy
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He plays off Kanye better than Justin Timberlake thats for sure...GAH its soo terrible when it switches to his voice. Makes my ears bleed.
Manga Carta was indeed trash.
Byakuya769
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Glad Jay threw that shot, drake has been getting high off his own supply this year. With that said, Drake was right about the art stuff, it is corny.
Moral Panic
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Which is ironic coming from a rapper who's rise to fame is making the corniest possible songs for women, sprinkled with a bit of faux tough guy showmanship. You don't want to make him catch a body like that.
Ken Masters
Banned
Jay and his fabricated drug tales talking to Drake about authenticity?
Lol
Lol
Is drake returning any of your calls ken? Just curious.
Jay has some strident haters. Hes rich and black and flaunts it,fucks Beyonce, has managed to stay relevant and successful for 2 decades despite purists and stans of people he outlasted hating him. As a fan, its fun to sit back and watch people try as hard as possible to downplay his legacy and skill...
Just like this guy right here. Obviously doesn't like Jays music from any era but is dropping post after post trying to convince people he isnt one of the greatest to ever pick up a mic.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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I'm confused. How can Jay be more corny than Drake of all people?
So he threw a small jab at Drake for calling out his favorite hobby. Who wouldn't? I feel like Drake is the last person who should be talking about corny. So yes, Drake may have been a little right about calling Jay rapping about art whack.. But Drake is equally as whack. I can only think of that as the main reason why Jay clocked. Would any rapper like the fact that Drake called out their favorite hobby as corny and whack? Think about that for a second lol.
So he threw a small jab at Drake for calling out his favorite hobby. Who wouldn't? I feel like Drake is the last person who should be talking about corny. So yes, Drake may have been a little right about calling Jay rapping about art whack.. But Drake is equally as whack. I can only think of that as the main reason why Jay clocked. Would any rapper like the fact that Drake called out their favorite hobby as corny and whack? Think about that for a second lol.
CountBlack
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Jay Electronica da gawd.
Act 2 - 2014.
Neverjustwaitonit.
Just gained a bit of respect for Jay Z.. Drake deserves them shots
Act 2 - 2014.
Neverjustwaitonit.
Just gained a bit of respect for Jay Z.. Drake deserves them shots
Everything post Black Album was medicore at best. It's like Tribe albums after Midnight Marauders. Go from legendary to meh. Quest had other shit going on though.
The worst part of it is that drake has confessed his love for hov on record. He rapped about dude like it was a female he was in love with. The King of corny can't be calling other people corny regardless of the validity of the statement. People talk about ye but drakes had the biggest ego around this past year.
So as the head of the drake PR team what is your next move? Is drake currently penning a rebuttal or an apology.
American Gangster is a good solid album, nah. He's only good for singles and features now basically. Either way everyone else from his eras is garbage now with the exception of Nas, who is kinda at that American Gangster level of quality.
Byakuya769
Member
Truth bomb.
PhoenixDark
Banned
I'm guessing this was recorded before Pound Cake? You never know with Jay Elec...
Jay Z has been trash for years, and constantly sounds like a cultural tourist. Hearing him rap about taking Advil (Jesus take the wheel!) is just laughable. Grow up, Shawn. And you can tell his rap style doesn't work most of the time anymore. Not writing worked wonders at his peak, but now he sounds like someone struggling to come up with simple rhymes. MCHG is trash. BP3 was trash too.
Again I'm not stanning but Drake is making better music today. It'll be interesting to see if Drake has the balls to go at Jay, or whether he'll pull the "you know, I called Jay and we laughed about this stuff. We're friends" card. At some point or another the "next big thing" rapper always challenges the guy who is above him, or challenges the legend. Jay went at Nas in an attempt to establish himself as the god MC. 50 Cent sent shots at Jay and Nas. Wayne sent shots at Jay. So far Drake hasn't really directly dissed anyone. Meanwhile, Kendrick lightly tapped Drake on some competitive shit, and Drake threw a fit. He's not built for this, and I wouldn't expect him to say anything to Jay.
Jay is a hip hop head, for real. I guarantee you he watched that Control shit and lost respect for Drake. Not because Drake didn't respond - after all, it wasn't even a diss. But for the fact that Drake caught obvious feelings over it. You can really tell Drake isn't an MC. He's just a guy who raps.
Jay Z has been trash for years, and constantly sounds like a cultural tourist. Hearing him rap about taking Advil (Jesus take the wheel!) is just laughable. Grow up, Shawn. And you can tell his rap style doesn't work most of the time anymore. Not writing worked wonders at his peak, but now he sounds like someone struggling to come up with simple rhymes. MCHG is trash. BP3 was trash too.
Again I'm not stanning but Drake is making better music today. It'll be interesting to see if Drake has the balls to go at Jay, or whether he'll pull the "you know, I called Jay and we laughed about this stuff. We're friends" card. At some point or another the "next big thing" rapper always challenges the guy who is above him, or challenges the legend. Jay went at Nas in an attempt to establish himself as the god MC. 50 Cent sent shots at Jay and Nas. Wayne sent shots at Jay. So far Drake hasn't really directly dissed anyone. Meanwhile, Kendrick lightly tapped Drake on some competitive shit, and Drake threw a fit. He's not built for this, and I wouldn't expect him to say anything to Jay.
Jay is a hip hop head, for real. I guarantee you he watched that Control shit and lost respect for Drake. Not because Drake didn't respond - after all, it wasn't even a diss. But for the fact that Drake caught obvious feelings over it. You can really tell Drake isn't an MC. He's just a guy who raps.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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He is. I just can't with people trying to defend Drake on this. Come on, Drake though? His entire opinion is invalidated when you make the most corniest videos that consists of him running next to a driving car in faux snow, trying to be captain save-a-hoe on some Chris Brown level shit. His does has some nerve to talk about art. At least art has stories behind it that is historical , educational pieces that lives around for years. Kids won't be talking about his performance as Jimmy in the next 10 years lol. I'm saying. Jay probably didn't have to defend his, uhh, second love with this verse but I mean if Jay is corny for doing it, Drake is corny for even acknowledging it or attempting to drag it tbh.
Byakuya769
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In the time it took you to write that long ass post you could have actually listened to Hov's verse. Dude is talking about Lupita, 12 years a slave and the oscars. Can't respect your analysis of a GOAT if you're playing up the role of "do you fools listen to music or do you just skim through it."
Drake makes better music that Jay right now. Kills every feature, makes great albums.
PhoenixDark
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Jay knew about all that shit months ago as a member of the Illuminati.
but seriously, shit was too forgettable.
I dont think hes arguing Hov's verse is old. Hes talking about Jay E. I think its a relatively recent record given the fact that Jay E is using the Migos flow pretty blatant.
Jay Elec has a time machine though. This verse was probably written about 12 years ago.
Byakuya769
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Unspeakable Evil
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Migos flow?
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
Yes because Drake is right now. Just like Jay was back then. Unlike Jay though, Drake has to assert his relevance. Jay has already done that. I don't think Jay looks at this as a serious threat as some rap guys like to stress. The man is more than rap at this point and does it for shits and jiggles. I mean, it sounds like he really tries to have a more sophisticated sound but we all know that his time, his era is all done. Drake on the other hand makes good music as any hype rap artist in there prime and eventually people will get tired of him when the next rap sensation comes through. He's a good hook artist, a good feature and good solo artist. Sooner or later, he will be on the other side of the table doing the same corny shit (as if he hasn't already) when someone comes at him about his hobbies lol.
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