plasmawave
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Um, ya it is. He's using a different tone of voice but it's totally him.
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Um, ya it is. He's using a different tone of voice but it's totally him.
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Do you have a source, or are you just "hearing" that "it's Ôtsuka with a different tone of voice" thing?
plasmawave
Banned
No, I don't have a source but it's him.
Can you give examples of Ôtsuka talking with a voice like that, then?
EDIT: You might be right, actually... Huh. I really don't like where this is going.
plasmawave
Banned
The closest I could find. It's on NicoNico so you need an account.
It starts around 7:00.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm14635996
Yep, like said above, you might actually be right after all. I apologize.
But what the hell, Kojima.
I mean, that would certainly lend a lot of credence to the idea that the medic is voiced by Sutherland in the English dub. And that the medic becomes fairly important later on, either as Ishmael (although I'm still betting on the guy not actually existing) or as Punished Snake.
And what the hell, Kojima.
A Big Boss decoy is something I was already seeing coming anyway (even if I don't like it)... but the fucking medic?
plasmawave
Banned
Re-using the same VA for other smaller parts is pretty common.
I wouldn't read too deep into it.
I wouldn't read too deep into it.
I'd really like it to be just that, but I can't think of similar examples for the Metal Gear series at the moment, and it would certainly be odd that they'd decide to do the exact same Snake/medic thing for the English dub as well...
Wrong.
Thank you so much for this.
For those who can't read Japanese, Naomi clearly refers to Clark as a male in the second screen, no room for ambiguity.
The stuff with the Medic VA is kind of weird indeed.
Is it mentioned anywhere that Sutherland does the voice for the medic too? I just rewatched the scene, and I don't think it sounds anything like him.
I'm pretty sure we don't have any actual source at all for the medic's Japanese and English voice actors. There's a section for "soldiers/extras" in the credits. Either it's in there, or someone in the main cast is voicing him. And at this point, it looks like it might well be Snake's voice actor, in both the Japanese and English versions.
For Sutherland, see this post. I wasn't convinced, personally (the moment you start manipulating sound files...), but with this Ôtsuka thing... Well, my plate of crows is ready, just in case.
Rogue Agent
Banned
I agree, it could be that Chico refused and then got strung up and punished. It's just that the tape was fast-forwarding for a long time so something must have happened. And when Paz gives him 'comfort' at the end, my mind goes to rape because maybe she's doing that to make him feel better about it like "it's ok, you didn't hurt me".
AgentLampshade
Member
According to my friend, the medic's using Sutherlands "threatening voice" from 24.
Yeah, the "open'er now" is, if not Sutherland, an impressive impersonation, but I thought they might just have had him perform an extra couple of lines while he was in capture gear or some other silly reason. Now that I'm starting to hear Otsuka in Japanese as well... huh. Does anybody notice any teeth clipping?
AndrewDean84xX
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At the mission results screen, what is the ???? section?
Spring-Loaded
Member
For the Ground Zeroes mission, it's 'escaped prisoners recovered'
For Eliminate the renegade threat, it's 'both targets recovered'
For Classified Intel Acquisition, it's 'classified intel recovered'
For Destroy Anti-Air Emplacements, it's 'mother base agents recovered'
If the cloning experiment happened in 1972 as has been suggested, Solidus would be very young during GZ, practically a toddler.
infinityBCRT
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At first they don't sound the same but when he's sewing Paz back up it definitely sounds like Keifer.
Could the medic be... Solidus?
Nope. Solidus DOES age faster than Solid and Liquid, but I highly, HIGHLY doubt a 2-years old Solidus would look like a grown up man.
infinityBCRT
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Well-- he'd be 4 years old... but I wouldn't put it past Kojima to retcon Les Enfants Terribles so that it started in the 60's instead of the 70's...
Mmhh.. Weren't Solid and Liquid born on 1972? They would be 2 years old by the time of Ground Zeroes (1974). Solidus' birth year is never mentioned, but I guess he was created shortly after the other two.
Spring-Loaded
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littlegrasshopper
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I am yours. TAKE ME.
OMG! How do I not know about this? What mission is this? I must save Hideo! lol
Valkyri von Thanatos
Member
Actually, as the game states, GZ takes place in 1975. Says so right as the main mission starts up. Solidus would still be WAY too young, barring massive retcon. He was even made later, and since LET was "abandoned" in 1976, I'd say that's his birth year, or at least, it's closer than Liquid/Solid's 1972.
Solidus would be cool, but doesn't make sense. The medic really could only be a decoy in a conventional "look-alike" fashion, if that.
Solidus would be cool, but doesn't make sense. The medic really could only be a decoy in a conventional "look-alike" fashion, if that.
So, is there a big, nice summary of all plot elements and events of GZ?
Yeah, I get that, but I assumed that this might be also tied-in with the gameplay like Peace Walker; where you kidnapped soldiers to expand MB. Can I kidnap people in GZ for my MB in TPP?
Yeah, I get that, but I assumed that this might be also tied-in with the gameplay like Peace Walker; where you kidnapped soldiers to expand MB. Can I kidnap people in GZ for my MB in TPP?
You can kidnap people and save POWs, and the DLC voucher is for Mother Base staff in TPP.
Spring-Loaded
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That would've been a good idea, if that isn't somehow a function for the console versions of TTP. I remember hearing about that in Peace Walker, sounded cool
They could even have a brainwashing minigame for each "recruit"
infinityBCRT
Member
Les Enfant Terribles was started in 1971-- but yes Solid and Liquid are stated to be born in 1972, and no birth year for Solidus. And Ground Zeroes is set in 1975 (9 years before Phantom Pain which is set in 1984).
AdmiralSnackbar
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Eeeh, that would be the third time they've done the collect a soldier metagame. I don't really want to personally build Snake's army again.
Spring-Loaded
Member
But I never did ;-;
blitzwolf215
Member
Where is this?
AdmiralSnackbar
Member
I never even finished Peacewalker properly. Had a big miserable final boss battle because i didn't want to grind to level up rocket launchers or whatever. Peacewalker basically had a garbage free to play facebook game built into itself and I really hope Kojima is willing to let that part of the series die.
If you're talking about the whole Mother Base building mechanic, where you recruit soldiers and assign them into certain roles, that's back for The Phantom Pain.
Here, you will have to play it at a higher resolution to see the child sized figure.
MikeXXIeaf
Banned
So how will Boss end up with his arm again?
That's the opposite arm, though. But yes, they probably rebuilt Zadornov' mechanical arm for Big Boss, or created a new one.
Not the same arm though.
I'm sure Huey can refigure it.
Or maybe it's an indication that most of Phantom Pain isn't real and that it's just the imagination of a comatose Big Boss.
I don't mind GZ going in a darker direction, but only if it actually means something or proves a point. Paz's rape just seems like Kojima Productions being edgy for the sake of being edgy.
I pretty much agree with these viewpoints:
http://www.pixelitis.net/features/kojima-take-things-far-metal-gear-solid-v-ground-zeroes
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/03/25/whats-wrong-with-metal-gear-solid-5-ground-zeroes-ending
I pretty much agree with these viewpoints:
http://www.pixelitis.net/features/kojima-take-things-far-metal-gear-solid-v-ground-zeroes
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/03/25/whats-wrong-with-metal-gear-solid-5-ground-zeroes-ending
BibiMaghoo
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Have to ask, but why is the assumption that the second bomb was in either her lady bag or her ass?
I mean, I've seen it, and she doesn't say, for whatever reason. I'm just wondering if this is something that is described in the tapes (I don't have them all yet) or is the mass imagination of the internet gone wild.
I mean, I've seen it, and she doesn't say, for whatever reason. I'm just wondering if this is something that is described in the tapes (I don't have them all yet) or is the mass imagination of the internet gone wild.
MikeBreezy92
Member
.....it was tastefully done, I was properly disgusted at Skullface after that and it gave much insight to the type of depraved motherfucker he is..everything Kojima does is for edge though that's nothing new.
It's not described in the tapes. Threre's one tape where Skull Face says something to the degree of
"I'll put the second one in some place they'll NEVER look!"
I honestly don't think it's as obvious as the rest of GAF makes it out to be, but that's just me. I heard the tape after I heard about it on here, so I of course immediately thought where it was going. Had I not heard that, I'd probably just be confused when listening to it.
BibiMaghoo
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Thanks. I am kind of glad that is the case.
I mean, I'll listen to the tape before making a final call, but I thought it pretty fucked up that it was just assumed to be so. It could be anywhere right? But we all assume the worst possible place.
I think he stuck it in her ear man. Because reasons
.There are only so many places you could place a bomb... That, the quote "A place they'll never look", Paz being embarrassed when she wants to say where it is before jumping off the heli, and the squishy sounds from the tape...Thanks. I am kind of glad that is the case.
I mean, I'll listen to the tape before making a final call, but I thought it pretty fucked up that it was just assumed to be so. It could be anywhere right? But we all assume the worst possible place.
I think he stuck it in her ear man. Because reasons
They couldn't have placed it in her head or something because the bomb was placed less than 24 hours before BB rescued her, and her hair couldn't have grown back in that short time.
It could still be somewhere else of course but it is heavily implied that it's the worst possible place... Considering how fucked up Skull Face is, I'm inclined to be believe that it's true :/...