RyanardoDaVinci
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The timer accumulates in real-time and acts like a fast-forward button to speed up development of MB stuff.
MGSV: Ground Zeroes - Spoilers Thread - #TeamBowie
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The timer accumulates in real-time and acts like a fast-forward button to speed up development of MB stuff.
Does this disprove the theory? Also spoils the fact that we will hear quite speak.
Love Deterrence
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In a Kojima Productions podcast, it was confirmed that Quiet would have no actual dialogue - only grunts, moans and such!
Voice actor is the wrong term. She's doing motion capture for Quiet. They haven't said anything about a voice yet.
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There was an interview with her 3 months ago on HideRaji, so it was already available info
That was just meant to further illustrate that the gender of Chico's VA isn't a clue to anything, since as someone else stated female VAs often voice boys.
The theory itself seems like a stretch personally
exactly! The japanese Dragonball Z's "Goku", has always been voiced by a female.
Goku never hit puberty.
that sounds disturbing...
Fimbulvetr
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I just listened to Chico's tape 4 again, and there's no way he actually went through with it. On the other hand, it seems like someone else did, since that segment opens with a slow, repetitive slapping sound and Paz moaning, then Skull Face saying "move," followed by the sound of a zipper. Yeah.
Anyway, that segment cuts straight to Chico giving the details on Mother Base, and after that is the whole scene between Paz and Chico that wouldn't make any sense if it had happened to begin with. I'm not saying this whole theory is bunk, but this is a foundational part of it that's wrong. Not that any of this matters, I mainly wanted to clear it up for myself.
Anyway, that segment cuts straight to Chico giving the details on Mother Base, and after that is the whole scene between Paz and Chico that wouldn't make any sense if it had happened to begin with. I'm not saying this whole theory is bunk, but this is a foundational part of it that's wrong. Not that any of this matters, I mainly wanted to clear it up for myself.
One thing that really needs to be clarified is why Chico had a headphone jack in his chest; why did the guard at the beginning point a gun at him despite Chico being inside a metal cage (like as if Skull face was in danger simply being near Chico); and why he had steel bolts hammered into his feet.
This is going to sound quite out there but I suspect there's more to Chico than we're led to believe, possibly with him undergoing some early robotisation process that Foxhound later perfected on Gray Fox when he became Cyborg Ninja. Chico being a guinea pig of sorts.
This is going to sound quite out there but I suspect there's more to Chico than we're led to believe, possibly with him undergoing some early robotisation process that Foxhound later perfected on Gray Fox when he became Cyborg Ninja. Chico being a guinea pig of sorts.
I find it disturbing the notion of a 25 year old woman having sex with a 12 year old boy, while being watched by a half dozen security guards and a guy in a trenchcoat.
After listening to the tapes, I understand why, in one of the trailers, they're torturing Huey.
He basically acted without their knowledge and accepted the inspection which caused all of this. It's understandable for them to think he knew this was going to happen, especially after finding out he survived the attack.
He basically acted without their knowledge and accepted the inspection which caused all of this. It's understandable for them to think he knew this was going to happen, especially after finding out he survived the attack.
Rogue Agent
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I think it is Strangelove who was the "scientist" that was XOF's way in. But Huey takes the blame because he doesn't want them to hurt her if he tells them she was behind it, he's "standing his ground" which is what Strangelove told Huey to do at the end of Peace Walker. But I think he'll eventually spit it out which is how he'll come to be on our side.
Also Strangelove goes where the research is. She was originally on Coldman's side to create Peace Walker, then she defected to MSF to help create Zeke, then she defects to Cipher to create what she tells Huey is "a weapon to surpass Metal Gear" which Ocelot gets out of him.
Listening to the tapes you have to assume he sold them out. Every single decision he makes fucks them over, and he takes actions without their approval to do so. Then Skullface says 'the scientist was our way in' or something to that effect. I mean, the guy had his 'gf' moved off the base just in time to avoid the attack. Come on now.
Either he's massively incompetent and incapable of following orders or he was working for Skullface or Cipher. If you were BB wouldn't you assume the latter?
EDIT: I suppose Strangelove could have manipulated him, which would explain everything just as well. That still makes him a moron, though.
ANOTHER EDIT: Playing through the game again, the most emotional moment is when Big Boss rescues Paz and that music kicks in. It strikes me as funny, considering BB's first instinct when he finds out about Paz is to kill her, and when both Kaz and BB wouldn't mind seeing her dead whatsoever. But there's this really tender moment... it's weird.
plasmawave
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It's because she has wide range of voices to pull it off.
She played Rosemary in MGS2, the Boss in MGS3 and Sunny in MGS4.
plasmawave
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Also Huey and Strange Love splitting up and him still acting normal is a bit suspicious.
Rogue Agent
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If you listen to the briefing tapes (which is the intro dialogue in it's proper context), they find out about Paz before Chico actually goes missing. It could be that they listened to Paz's diary between then but I'd have to relisten. There seem to be some inconsistencies. Like someone mentioned on another mgs forum I go to how there is a dialogue in Ground Zeroes where Kaz is talking about the day they first met Paz and he is like "I can't believe we bought that cover story" even though at the end of Peace Walker he admitted he knew who Paz and Zadornov were all along. That seems like a big oversight to me.
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Thank you for that clarification. I understand now.
However, should I use that time as often as possible since money shows up every so often, or should I only fast forward after starting building/recruiting tasks? Will it also speed up missions?
I have made it up to level 10 so far, but I am not sure if it is intended to be played for long periods of time or if you should wait hours/days between playing small portions to give the base time to grow.
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Deleted member 80556
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Well Kojima did say that there might be some inconsistencies.
Although, did Kaz really know about Paz from the get go? Or was he briefed later by Cipher?
I don't think we can without offending someone.
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Infinite Justice
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I kinda took the Kaz slip up as him talking to the player, as in "I can't believe you the player bought that silly cover story" but yeah otherwise it makes no sense for him to say that. As for the intro inconsistency I just chalk that up to the intro cut-scene being a quick plot dump for the player ad the briefing tapes being the real intro. It's sorta similar to MGS1 you have a quick flashy info plot dump but when you dive into the briefing files you learn a whole lot more that was skipped over in the intro cutscene.
tensuke
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You may have figured out by now, but certain actions in the game require time to pass (doing missions takes usually about 3 minutes, and building units/upgrading struts takes time as well) and you can hit that button to drain 30 seconds from the game's timer (it'll take away 30 seconds for everything, not just one thing). So you don't have to wait for stuff to complete if you want to sit and grind for a while. You can get more speedup time by playing GZ and completing missions.
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Deleted member 80556
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Quiet is Chico's mother! There we go!
"All along"? Yep, inconsistency. Guess Kaz was feeling a bit melodramatic during the mission.
"All along"? Yep, inconsistency. Guess Kaz was feeling a bit melodramatic during the mission.
AdmiralSnackbar
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Wait the companion thing is in this? I turned the vita to the second screen mode and didn't see anything...
tensuke
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It's an app on iOS/Android. If you have one, just search for "ground zeroes". You can listen to collected tapes on it too, although you can't play them while playing the base builder part. -_-
commanderpepper
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Just saw my brother play through the game and came into this thread for interesting stuff I missed. Was not expecting the Chico/Quiet theory.
ComputerMKII
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#TeamSexChange
RyanardoDaVinci
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It's best to save up some time so you can build or do missions quickly. If you let it sit and count up time, it'll max out at 5hrs.
However, if you complete the Ground Zeroes mission and then start up MB, you'll get 5hrs of bonus time. You can do this as many times as you want but not back-to-back.
I almost feel the same. He's awful in Peace Walker throughout, and it was the first time I ever understood the criticism of him. It could have coloured my opinion on his other performances, but when I start playing another MGS I typically enjoy him soon enough again.
But yeah, that performance probably lost him the job. I do think it was for the best, even if I wouldn't have gone with Keifer.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Always thought Quiet and Eva might have a connection.
brianmcdoogle
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Quiet is the child of Big Boss and Eva. Big Boss doesn't know. They have sex, and then he cuts out his tongue and some stuff involving a psychic or something happens, and he ends up in a forrest.. I forget the ending exactly.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Well then I think it's a dead cert.
Love Deterrence
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You said it, yourself!
ComputerMKII
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We need a poll.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
Farewell Sausage, lolol.
ComputerMKII
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Nevermind
XANDER CAGE
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I am never going to get over the "you will regret your words and deeds" tweet.
immortal-joe
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If you're gonna get rid of your sausage, might as well get rid of other stuff you don't want.
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KittenMaster
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I have my own speculation on the whole Chico = Quiet thing. Until we know about the Quiet character, there isn't much to say other than that she could still be an entirely new character in the end with a completely different backstory.
But I honestly can't help but think there's something to the theory, and it's just that a theory and fun story speculation. Here are my thoughts:
But I honestly can't help but think there's something to the theory, and it's just that a theory and fun story speculation. Here are my thoughts:
Chico is constantly expected to live up to being a man, despite falling short each time.
He would most likely be disgusted with himself after what happened between him and Paz especially while going through puberty; Skullface even tells him after all of the horrors he had been through that "you're a real man now, soldier", which is essentially saying that Chico is more of a man for experiencing horrific things that will ruin him forever
"Quiet", because of the shame for having talked and putting his comrades all in misery as a result and becoming mute would allow her to never reveal information the same way again
Chico is an exceptional survivalist for his age, which would transfer easily to the skills of a sniper traversing harsh environments like the middle east
His new model in Ground Zeroes is strangely different from his PW incarnation, and resembles Quiet more than his older model does
He would most likely be disgusted with himself after what happened between him and Paz especially while going through puberty; Skullface even tells him after all of the horrors he had been through that "you're a real man now, soldier", which is essentially saying that Chico is more of a man for experiencing horrific things that will ruin him forever
"Quiet", because of the shame for having talked and putting his comrades all in misery as a result and becoming mute would allow her to never reveal information the same way again
Chico is an exceptional survivalist for his age, which would transfer easily to the skills of a sniper traversing harsh environments like the middle east
His new model in Ground Zeroes is strangely different from his PW incarnation, and resembles Quiet more than his older model does