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[Thunder Monkey]

For it to make any money I would certainly hope so

That's kind of funny.

I'm a huge Shenmue fan and even I know no one would go into devving a Shenmue to make money. No matter how many platforms it launches on. The only reason any publisher would fund it would be to gain good will with a specific core gamer subset. This would make it more likely for the funding to come from a struggling platform manufacturer. Like Bayo 2's case.

 

[soul creator]

If some hypothetical "Shenmue 3" existed, it seems like it'd make more sense to be episodic (yes I know the series technically is already "episodic").

$15-$20 chunks like Killer Instinct seems like it'd be the best business model for this type of game.

Maybe it's sort of a mini-Mass Effect with your save files carrying over and everything.

 

[...Scatter...]

If they'd convince Kojima to create a new Snatcher I'd be extremely impressed. Now THAT would be magic.

 

[jusufin]

I think MS is still trying to remove the negativity that's been lingering around the Xbox after the DRM debacle, and I could definitely see this kind of announcement changing it. Even if its a niche title to some, reviving such a loved title would generate a lot of positive press for them. An E3 announcement would probably overshadow any new franchise or sequel from any of the big 3 on news sites and forums. Good news is infectious, and MS needs people going apeshit over its console right now more than ever. I went PlayStation first for the first time ever this generation, but an announcement like this would sway me back to the MS camp. Plus it would be a good way to reassure the hardcore that MS is still trying to win them over.

 

[Lord Carnarvon]

This... Shenmue 3 faithfuls are loud and thus they feel like they are a larger community than they actually are... If Shenmue 3 did release and it didn't sell well, they'd find something to blame for it.



See above. Not a lot of people are gaga for it... It has a very loud niche audience who will stop at nothing to convince you it's the greatest game ever imagined. It's big, it was super expensive to make at the time, but a good portion of the game is just padding around looking in overly detailed houses that don't serve much purpose all to super loud foot step noises.

You got to feel this game and you obviously didn't. If you ever had the chance to.

 

[shandy706]

Also, I've never played Shenmue so could some kind soul explain to me why everyone's gaga for this series

It was somewhat open world and more than ambitious for its time.

People loved different things about it.

Want to get a job, find one.

See that arcade downtown, go in and actually play the arcade games.

See a store or restaurant..go buy something or eat. Heck, pick up some food and feed it to a cat or dog you see.

See a quarter/capsule machine...drop a coin in it and collect hundreds of toys if you want.

See a suspicious gang or bad guy....take him on in hand to hand combat.

Buy a bike? Why not...

Etc...etc...

I enjoyed it all.

 

[mjontrix]

If at E3 they announce :
Shenmue III for Xbox One
The Last Guardian for PS4
Half-Life 3 for Steam OS timed-exclusive
Does NeoGAF crash ? [Edit : Forever. Because it always does crash anyway]

EviLore will turn off the NeoGAF servers and walk into the sunset.

For about a week because GAF is an addictive drug.

 

[Paracelsus]

It's a bomba on arrival but who cares, as long as it's made and they give Sega 80m to do it. Hell, they should give Capcom 40m to do REmake 2 too.

 

[ChosenPredator]

If at E3 they announce :
Shenmue III for Xbox One
Phantom Dust 2 announced for Xbox one
The Last Guardian for PS4
Half-Life 3 for Steam OS timed-exclusive
Does NeoGAF crash ? [Edit : Forever. Because it always does crash anyway]

there you go that would make this place non-accessible for weeks.

 

[LegendofDragoonLives]

But a game is a game. If it had a great story, nice visuals etc etc it could still be successful on its own merit.

Arguably it was niche because it launched on the Dreamcast. It might see bigger success on a more mainstream system like XO.

You're being too optimistic imo, this would bomb pretty badly. This is as someone else above stated, to get a very small hardcore market and make them happy.

 

[Jachaos]

there you go that would make this place non-accessible for weeks.

I'm trying to think of something for Wii U, but as an owner of that console what I want most we already know is coming - Smash, Zelda, etc.

Unless... the next Zelda not releasing on Wii U ? Or F-Zero ? Or a Miyamoto FPS ? Yeah actually there's some stuff after all.

 

[ChosenPredator]

I'm trying to think of something for Wii U, but as an owner of that console what I want most we already know is coming - Smash, Zelda, etc.

Unless... the next Zelda not releasing on Wii U ? Or F-Zero ? Or a Miyamoto FPS ? Yeah actually there's some stuff after all.

Maybe a Nintendo MOBA type of game

or Earthbound?

 

[Jachaos]

Maybe a Nintendo MOBA type of game

or Earthbound?

Those work yeah, or Pokémon MMO Skyrim omgwtfbbq stuff !

 

[jim2011]

I'm trying to think of something for Wii U, but as an owner of that console what I want most we already know is coming - Smash, Zelda, etc.

Unless... the next Zelda not releasing on Wii U ? Or F-Zero ? Or a Miyamoto FPS ? Yeah actually there's some stuff after all.

Metroid Prime 4

 

[Slime]

The NA version of Shenmue II was one of the main reasons I bought an Xbox "1."

Exclusivity of Shenmue III would go a long way toward convincing me to get an Xbox One.

 

[cool_dude]

Would pay $80

 

[Jachaos]

I'm thinking we'll actually get one of those, probably The Last Guardian or Shenmue III with the comments made over the last year. Nothing is impossible, even those myths. Last year we got FF Versus, Kingdom Hearts and Battlefront [Edit : And Mirror's Edge] at E3. There might be at least one this year !

Metroid Prime 4

Yeah that too. Lots of requests for Wii U games when you think about it.

 

[grosvenor_92]

If at E3 they announce :
Shenmue III for Xbox One
The Last Guardian for PS4
Half-Life 3 for Steam OS timed-exclusive
Does NeoGAF crash ? [Edit : Forever. Because it always does crash anyway]

GAF wouldn't stand a chance if one or all 3 or those were announced

 

[Gestault]

Also, I've never played Shenmue so could some kind soul explain to me why everyone's gaga for this series

Imagine a detective/adventure game where you play as a son avenging his murdered father. His murderer had some connection to your family, possibly to a martial-art school your father instructed. You travel from your hometown to the nearby docks at the shore to mainland-China to the remote village in Guilin. You meet people who swindle you, ignore you, fight you, and sometimes help you. You work and make contacts as part of a daily routine, and the people around you follow their own routines. You're rewarded in gameplay terms for exploring and thinking. Fighting is handled in a system not unlike Virtua Fighter, but with a level-up system where the more you use a technique, the stronger it gets.

You can collect CAPSULE TOYS for god's sake.

 

[LelouchViBritannia]

I still remember when that Shenmue 3 website was registered a couple of months back. Gaming sites were crashing.

The demand for Shenmue is real.

To bad the trademark was a hoax.

 

[The Flash]

It was somewhat open world and more than ambitious for its time.

People loved different things about it.

Want to get a job, find one.

See that arcade downtown, go in and actually play the arcade games.

See a store or restaurant..go buy something or eat. Heck, pick up some food and feed it to a cat or dog you see.

See a quarter/capsule machine...drop a coin in it and collect hundreds of toys if you want.

See a suspicious gang or bad guy....take him on in hand to hand combat.

Buy a bike? Why not...

Etc...etc...

I enjoyed it all.

Imagine a detective/adventure game where you play as a son avenging his murdered father. His murderer had some connection to your family, possibly to a martial-art school your father instructed. You travel from your hometown to the nearby docks at the shore to mainland-China to the remote village in Guilin. You meet people who swindle you, ignore you, fight you, and sometimes help you. You work and make contacts as part of a daily routine, and the people around you follow their own routines. You're rewarded in gameplay terms for exploring and thinking. Fighting is handled in a system not unlike Virtua Fighter, but with a level-up system where the more you use a technique, the stronger it gets.

You can collect CAPSULE TOYS for god's sake.

Wow. That sounds cool.

 

[MC Safety]

So, a game's only as good for as many copies it sells? Give me a break.

If you can afford to make vanity projects, more power to you.

 

[charsace]

It was somewhat open world and more than ambitious for its time.

People loved different things about it.

Want to get a job, find one.

See that arcade downtown, go in and actually play the arcade games.

See a store or restaurant..go buy something or eat. Heck, pick up some food and feed it to a cat or dog you see.

See a quarter/capsule machine...drop a coin in it and collect hundreds of toys if you want.

See a suspicious gang or bad guy....take him on in hand to hand combat.

Buy a bike? Why not...

Etc...etc...

I enjoyed it all.

Somewhat open world? It was more open world than anything else and hand more to do than any other open world game. You could go into every house and just grab random things. No other open world game has come close to pulling off a story as engrossing as Shenmue did.

 

[DrROBschiz]

I hate Shenmue now

Mostly because the fervor to bring it back has overshadowed games that I wish they would bring back

Shit like PSO and Skies of Arcadia.

Instead they keep pumping out Sonic and Hatsune Miku games

What the fuck

 

[Ahasverus]

We would all fall. Sorry Sony, if M$ takes this, I'm very sorry.

 

[Atlas157]

I'd rather play it at 1080p though.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

Wow. That sounds cool.

There's some really dated features in it that show its Saturn roots. Mainly in the control scheme. D-pad was general movement, on the Dreamcast the analog stick being used as the free look input. Can't really remember if it was the same on the Xbox version.

I loved the first a lot more. The world felt much more realized. Even with the embarrassingly bad english VA. You could prank dial on a freaking rotary phone!

Ok, so it wasn't much prank dialing. But Ryo is in a real bad place when his father died. Vengeful shock. Or at least that's what the VA lead me to believe. It really was godawful.

I love the game, though it has been years since I played it. Shenmue was the first game aside from fighters that I played crazy obsessively. Literally seeing everything I could possibly see in the world. I was mainly a multiplayer gamer in the nineties. Everything I loved was best played with a friend. I didn't really become a singleplayer gamer until the Dreamcast. And now it's been an almost complete reversal since then. I still got in a lotta hours into fighters, party games, and cartoony racers but the bulk of my gaming started being filled with MGS, DMC, Zelda, Shenmue, KotOR, Silent Hill, Metroid, leading into now. Friends don't live down the street anymore so person to person multiplayer is becoming scarce. When we're together though we Mario, Smash, Kart, StreetFiter, GG, BomBermen, until the early morns. Usually involving some intoxicant or another. But mainly singeplayer for me now. My big online multiplayer phase started with Counter Strike and SoF2 and pretty much ended with Mech Assault and Crimson Skies.

My dreams were dashed with the cancellation of TFLO. I was gonna run a successful restaurant.

Shenmue was the first of my singleplayer game obsession though. Or at least was the beginning of a tidal change in my gaming habits. Life man, sometimes it takes you strange places. Which is also kind of a bastardized version of one of Shemnues myriad of themes.

This was a bit of a ranting ramble, but thanks for reading it anyway!. You'll never get those seconds back! MUWHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!

 

[charsace]

I hate Shenmue now

Mostly because the fervor to bring it back has overshadowed games that I wish they would bring back

Shit like PSO and Skies of Arcadia.

Instead they keep pumping out Sonic and Hatsune Miku games

What the fuck

Fuck Phantasy Star Online. The Phantasy Star series was Final Fantasy/Dragon Quest levels of great and then Sega decided not to do one for Saturn and then when they did a new game it was that PSO bullshit.

 

[Ahasverus]

Why would MS, after spending 400 million on NFL, 100 million on the controller, and say 50 million for titanfall, now want to fund a game with a budget of at least 50 million that will sell fewer than 2 million copies? Everyone loves to talk about how much money MS has, but that aren't idiots with it, they aren't just throwing it away

Shenmue alone would sell like 1M+ xbox ones.

 

[Justmarbz]

It would be huge if MS picked up this as an exclusive, fuck whatever the haters are saying. It would change the core mindset no doubt.

 

[Synth]

I hate Shenmue now

Mostly because the fervor to bring it back has overshadowed games that I wish they would bring back

Shit like PSO and Skies of Arcadia.

Instead they keep pumping out Sonic and Hatsune Miku games

What the fuck

PSO2 did get brought back....

 

[GoofsterStud]

It would be a huge waste.

 

[Haklong]

Fuck Phantasy Star Online. The Phantasy Star series was Final Fantasy/Dragon Quest levels of great and then Sega decided not to do one for Saturn and then when they did a new game it was that PSO bullshit.

Preach on my brother. I want old style Phantasy Star back.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

PSO2 did get brought back....

Wish it would come to a console where it belongs...

EDIT: Vita doesn't count for me. LOL

 

[Sub_Level]

E3 HYPE TRAIN LETS GO

THIS BITCH BE CHOO-CHOOIN' EARLY

 

[Marcel]

We would all fall. Sorry Sony, if M$ takes this, I'm very sorry.

A little melodrama finished with a trite catchphrase. What's the point here?

 

[Phire Phox]

I hate Shenmue now

Mostly because the fervor to bring it back has overshadowed games that I wish they would bring back

Shit like PSO and Skies of Arcadia.

Instead they keep pumping out Sonic and Hatsune Miku games

What the fuck

The did bring back PSO, they just need to bring it out of Japan.

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

XBox owners requesting Shemnue??? Something about that doesn't sound right.

 

[Marcel]

XBox owners requesting Shemnue??? Something about that doesn't sound right.

Why? Shenmue II was an OG Xbox launch game. It didn't do well but it was there. People know about it and talk about it still apparently.

Maybe more people discovered it later since the Shenmue 2 disc was playable on the Xbox 360?

 

[hipbabboom]

XBox owners requesting Shemnue??? Something about that doesn't sound right.

This is an amazing set of words It's full of insight!

 

[Neander]

XBox owners requesting Shemnue??? Something about that doesn't sound right.

Plenty people played it on the original Xbox. Why is it a surprise that they want to finish the trilogy?

 

[BRocknRolla]

Shenmue on Xbox would be big, but would also make kinda sense.

No... No it wouldn't. It wouldn't be "big" no matter where it would show up. It was an oddity with a mixed reception then (one that garnered a loud cult following) but I'd guarantee, whatever investment would be made in bringing it back would be more than lucky to break even. From a business perspective, there's not a lot to be gained here expect the love of a small group of nostalgic fans (Ands that's assuming the game would meet the high expectations of said fans).

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

Plenty people played it on the original Xbox. Why is it a surprise that they want to finish the trilogy?

I guess I expected more of the requests to materialize from Sega fans or Dreamcast owners since that is what it materialized on with immense hype. It's just surprising to me, that's all. I don't think I ever met an XBox owner that even cared or played Shenmue. Hey, bring it back and I'll definitely buy. I loved Shenmue 1 and 2.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

I guess I expected more of the requests to materialize from Sega fans or Dreamcast owners since that is what it materialized on with immense hype. It's just surprising to me, that's all. I don't think I ever met an XBox owner that even cared or played Shenmue. Hey, bring it back and I'll definitely buy. I loved Shenmue 1 and 2.

I wrote this earlier in the thread, but there is a large group of people who migrated from Dreamcast directly to Xbox because of all the SEGA support (Panzer Dragoon Orta, Jet Set Radio Future, Gun Valkyrie, TJ&E etc...). This group of people (myself included) likely still plays games on Xbox consoles and wants Shenmue.

 

[Revolver]

I wrote this earlier in the thread, but there is a large group for people who migrated from Dreamcast directly to Xbox because of all the SEGA support (Panzer Dragoon Orta, Jet Set Radio Future, Gun Valkyrie, TJ&E etc...). This group of people (myself included) likely still plays games on Xbox consoles and wants Shenmue.

I was in that group too. At the time it really seemed like the spiritual successor to the DC.

 

[noquarter]

Episodic and digital distribution would be a suitable format for a game like Shenmue.

It would be suitable, but then we would spend the next ten years hearing about Shenmue III Episode 3.

 

[AlteredBeast]

I have no intention of buying an XBO, since I don't really play video games anymore. But the minute Shenmue is available to purchase for the system, I would pay any price to get it. I would leverage my sizable video game collection for it, i would take odd jobs to afford it, barring need, etc. If the game cost 200 and came on a burned Maxell Blu-ray disc with sharpie writing on it, I would still buy it.

I feel for the plebs of that generation who skipped the DC and especially Shenmue and Shenmue II. Talk about a system with pound for pound quality gaming. Talk about groundbreaking immersion, storytelling, game play and world building. The original game vroke 1 million on the Dreamcast, which had an install base worldwide of around 7 or 8 million tops. The second one was succesful in Europe and Japan for being released on what was then a foregone conclusion of a dead platform. It was also one of the most imported games of all time when it was released. Hell, I played it in Japanese and then again in English on tbe PAL version, which I bought through Electronics Boutique day one.

People saying Shenmue III would only sell a few thousand are frankly dumb. Any high-profile new game on a new console with any amount of hype, which this would have from the hardcore crowd, would stumble its way to a few hundred thousand sales worldwide easy. Moreso if it gets excellent reviews. Is that enough to justify spending 10 to 20 million on by Sega/Sony /MS? Probably not, but if they do, I will be there. And so will a lot of other people.

 

[ChosenPredator]

I have no intention of buying an XBO, since I don't really play video games anymore. But the minute Shenmue is available to purchase for the system, I would pay any price to get it. I would leverage my sizable video game collection for it, i would take odd jobs to afford it, barring need, etc. If the game cost 200 and came on a burned Maxell Blu-ray disc with sharpie writing on it, I would still buy it.

I feel for the plebs of that generation who skipped the DC and especially Shenmue and Shenmue II. Talk about a system with pound for pound quality gaming. Talk about groundbreaking immersion, storytelling, game play and world building. The original game vroke 1 million on the Dreamcast, which had an install base worldwide of around 7 or 8 million tops. The second one was succesful in Europe and Japan for being released on what was then a foregone conclusion of a dead platform. It was also one of the most imported games of all time when it was released. Hell, I played it in Japanese and then again in English on tbe PAL version, which I bought through Electronics Boutique day one.

People saying Shenmue III would only sell a few thousand are frankly dumb. Any high-profile new game on a new console with any amount of hype, which this would have from the hardcore crowd, would stumble its way to a few hundred thousand sales worldwide easy. Moreso if it gets excellent reviews. Is that enough to justify spending 10 to 20 million on by Sega/Sony /MS? Probably not, but if they do, I will be there. And so will a lot of other people.

thats how I feel with phantom dust - in today market i feel like this game would be massive, with the mixture of card/action it's like a perfectly sliced combo, you just got to get people in to try it to make them stay hooked. If it is somehow announced at E3 the doubls Yu's (Yukio Futatsugi/Yu Suzuki) well dominate...I just wonder how much MS will go in on the two games.

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

Enough talk already. Just STFU and do it already! ;_;

I will buy any console Shenmue III is made for. Any!!!

 

[akidnamededdy]

Now's the time for Nintendo to swoop in and revive another dead Sega property!