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Yeah she's not really the no-nonsense hard-ass she is in the comics but I like her in the role. She has a pretty commanding presence on the Helicarrier and at least has one pretty badass moment in TWS.

I was expecting them to make her acting director once Fury went underground but that obviously didn't happen with SHIELD basically blowing up. I wonder where they'll take her character if she's gonna be working for Stark. I kinda wanted her to be more of a foil to the Avengers but we'll see.

That could be exactly what we see. She was the assistant director of SHIELD, so I could imagine she becomes the director of THE AVENGERS, manages them and all the corporate stuff with keeping such a group organized, legal, etc. She is the professional trained soldier who handles all the logistics/legal/corporate/intel aspects that would entail, probably acting as the filter for all information, their eyes and ears. This is kind of a role that would be needed since <insert rundown of the Avengers and how not suited they are here>.
 
That could be exactly what we see. She was the assistant director of SHIELD, so I could imagine she becomes the director of THE AVENGERS, manages them and all the corporate stuff with keeping such a group organized, legal, etc.

That would be pretty neat. I would assume with SHIELD out of the picture, Stark is going to take on a more commanding role for the team (having set up Avengers Tower and all), and would be cool to have Hill kinda be like their commander from there. Maybe her signing on to the HR department at Stark Industries is more like a front for something like that.
 
I took it as she was in the HR department meeting room because that room happened to be free for an interview (not uncommon, or that HR has a hand in hiring), not that she would be working in HR. Either Way I bet you anything it is cover for then being the commander like figure for the Avengers. You don't get the former assistant director of SHIELD to fill any level in Human Resources. I do think it think her wworking in HR has to be a front, they will probably have some quip about it n The Avengers 2.

I think a big issue is that Coulson really shouldn't be in the field so much. He needs to be the boss.

I don't think they have much of a choice anymore, but having Coulsonless missions might actually work better, as it would allow for the team to bounce off one another, organically filling certain roles, without all of the dialogue deferring to Coulson to info dump and assign tasks.

Hm, I actually like that idea, though I do think it should not be a hard rule that he is not our in the field.
 
Fury may have been worried enough about Coulson to have May spy on him, but at the end of everything, with their backs o the wall, Coulson's his bro, and May is a nobody. If there's one person he's going to rely on, it's him. You really think Nick Fury would go through all that effort to put May back together if she was speared by an Asgardian's sceptre?

She's not a nobody though May is the god damn cavalry. Her story is well known throughout S.H.I.E.L.D. She has the same clearance level as Natasha Romanov. And we also know she has actively prevented her rise in S.H.I.E.L.D. She would probably be Clearance level 8 along with Coulson and Hand if the whole cavalry thing never happened. More importantly you have to know he would vet the living day lights out of the person who was tasked with such an important job.
 
Mostly because I don't buy Cobie in that kind of role. There is nothing about her that says high ranking commanding officer type. She's the least believable of all the primary and secondary roles.

When I saw The Avengers I hadn't seen in her in anything else and I totally believed in her ability to play the role. After watching 8 seasons of HIMYM I still didn't realize I had seen her before. I think she plays the role well.
 
That would be pretty neat. I would assume with SHIELD out of the picture, Stark is going to take on a more commanding role for the team (having set up Avengers Tower and all), and would be cool to have Hill kinda be like their commander from there. Maybe her signing on to the HR department at Stark Industries is more like a front for something like that.
Civil War is coming whether anybody wants it or not.
 
Can we discuss how awesome Bill Paxton has been on this show? His mannerisms, the way he speaks, the stuff he says. He has me cracking up on a regular basis. He looks like he is having a blast being ridiculous on this show.
 
Can we discuss how awesome Bill Paxton has been on this show? His mannerisms, the way he speaks, the stuff he says. He has me cracking up on a regular basis. He looks like he is having a blast being ridiculous on this show.

The whole Uncle Cletus of Hydra routine is gold as far as I'm concerned.
 
Can we discuss how awesome Bill Paxton has been on this show? His mannerisms, the way he speaks, the stuff he says. He has me cracking up on a regular basis. He looks like he is having a blast being ridiculous on this show.

He's been really great so far. The moment he showed up on the show, I knew he wouldn't just be a random guess appearance. I'm glad they put him in the forefront of the plot.
 
Honestly, I think if they do a Civil War-ish type story it will only bear passing similarities to the comics. Like, I think it would be less of a war and more like a skirmish. The Civil Tussle. And just be at the beginning of, say, Avengers 3 before Thanos shows up and everyone has to agree that their previous fight was pointless in the face of universal annihilation and band together to beat off Thanos.
 
At the end of Cap2, Hill is
taking a polygraph in the HR office.

Makes sense considering the Hydra infiltration is now common knowledge.

And I mean we
know she is appearing in AOS soon
so she clearly is not out of the game.

Civil War is coming whether anybody wants it or not.

Well the culmination of Winter Solider in the comics is
Cap dying and passing on mantel to Bucky, which is a part of the resolution to Civil War, so it will be interesting to see how they integrate it.
. Has there been any word on if Evans has been signed on for Avengers 3?
 
I actually liked that episode, for once.
Mostly because Skye will get crushed once they find out the truth about Ward, and because this means Ward will get the bullet eventually.

And Graviton stuff, I can't wait to see that.
 
Honestly, I think if they do a Civil War-ish type story it will only bear passing similarities to the comics. Like, I think it would be less of a war and more like a skirmish. The Civil Tussle.
A Civil Squirmish perhaps?

And just be at the beginning of, say, Avengers 3 before Thanos shows up and everyone has to agree that their previous fight was pointless in the face of universal annihilation and band together to beat off Thanos.

That does sound like quite the feat. I'm guessing that the heavy hand of the Hulk just wasn't enough....
 
I actually liked that episode, for once.
Mostly because Skye will get crushed once they find out the truth about Ward, and because this means Ward will get the bullet eventually.

And Graviton stuff, I can't wait to see that.

Yeah Ward is gonna be dead sooner rather than later, probably by the end of this season. He's done some cold shit and like someone else already said, it's hard to switch him back again.
 
A Civil Squirmish perhaps?

Well... people would definitely be squirming... so sure!


That does sound like quite the feat. I'm guessing that the heavy hand of the Hulk just wasn't enough....

Well, in Infinity Guantlet, Hulk and Drax team up and try to take out Thanos together. They fail.

In summary:

Thanos_vs_HulkDrax.jpg
 
Cap 2 made me go back and catch up with AoS from where I quit in February. I don't know if it was marathoning it or just the show getting better but I'm in until the end now.
 
Ack, I meant comics universe.

I thought those were complex multiverses.

I am not a comic reader,
but I thought there were at least two main comic lines going on,
the old one, which is sometimes called 616, (the same number the Bus has)
and the "Ultimate" one.
 
Cap 2 made me go back and catch up with AoS from where I quit in February. I don't know if it was marathoning it or just the show getting better but I'm in until the end now.

I've stuck with it from the start and I definitely think it has improved over the season. Particularly after
Skye got shot
.
 
A bit LTTP, but after watching Captain America 2 I caved in and I finally started watching Agents of Shield... And I've liked every episode so far (just watched That Magical Place).

Maybe I'm easily pleased, or I was just expecting a truly awful show reading some comments in this thread (I've been lurking for a long time now, and sadly I got some stuff spoiled :( ), but besides some bad choreography
and Skye
I'm enjoying every part of it.
 
Can we talk about why Skye is so terrible?

She comes across as an awful attempt at fan service. The problem is, the stopped with the fan service bit after some of the earlier episodes, and tried to make her pull at our heart strings when most of the audience probably didn't give a shit about her, ergo people enjoying the series more after she was shot (and was given less screen time). To me, she's just superflous as the team's "sexy hacker", when they got Simmons who could easily fill the same shoes. Sure, she served as the audience vehicle into the world of SHIELD, but there were other ways they could have gone about that (like recruiting an actually talented person), and even so she could easily be offed now and no one would shed a tear.
 
Skye is necessary. Like you said she's the audience surrogate, but she is also Coulson's favorite (and his pupil in some sense). Simmons could have filled the hacker role but not the other aspects of Skye's character without losing her own backstory and connection with Fitz. She's too involved with SHIELD. Skye was not.

So I think she does have a place in the show, but the writers have been kinda clumsy about figuring where and why until recently. Didn't help that her lines for much of the beginning were pretty bad. I do like Chloe Bennett though. She's cute and has good enough chemistry with everyone except Ward (until recently I'd say). Now that she's a an 084, things will be interesting I hope.
 
The problem with Skye is that they wanted her to be "right" about SHIELD, but without us knowing about the CA2 situation, she just came off as a loon.
 
That's a good point. I really do wonder how far ahead they had Cap 2 planned when making those early episodes of AoS when Skye was more ambivalent about SHIELD. I guess it doesn't matter anymore though. They handled that thread rather poorly.
 
The problem with Skye is that they wanted her to be "right" about SHIELD, but without us knowing about the CA2 situation, she just came off as a loon.

Didn't the last episode open with her telling Coulson he was right about the need for SHIELD, as though the writers completely missed the point of TWS?
 
Saw Cap 2 a few days ago.

Still really good even though this spoiled me.

Interested to see how they go forward with this show based on that and how it might tie into future movies.
 
That's a good point. I really do wonder how far ahead they had Cap 2 planned when making those early episodes of AoS when Skye was more ambivalent about SHIELD. I guess it doesn't matter anymore though. They handled that thread rather poorly.

Didn't they say Ward's actor didn't know until a few episodes before? It's funny you mention it though. The scene where Ward is talking to Flower Girl felt so contrived, like the writers were really desperate to convince us that they had this planned all along.

Speaking of Ward though, that scene where Garrett is beating him up while drilling him on who he is genuinely have me chills. It also makes me wonder if he's given up his identity before, who he really was.
 
Didn't they say Ward's actor didn't know until a few episodes before? It's funny you mention it though. The scene where Ward is talking to Flower Girl felt so contrived, like the writers were really desperate to convince us that they had this planned all along.

Speaking of Ward though, that scene where Garrett is beating him up while drilling him on who he is genuinely have me chills. It also makes me wonder if he's given up his identity before, who he really was.

It adds a little depth to a guy who was as interesting as wall paper paste up until recently, that's for sure.
 
T.A.H.I.T.I. had the lowest 18-49 rating (live+same day)
What about them?
You don't know in advance, if an episode is "skipable".
=( You're right. I guess the positive is that after the show hit it's lowest point, it started going right back up. Which means it actually could have gone even lower.

Chloe Bennet should do some voice acting. I think I just forgive all of her acting because of her voice. She's getting better though. Also she's asian.
 
Didn't they say Ward's actor didn't know until a few episodes before? It's funny you mention it though. The scene where Ward is talking to Flower Girl felt so contrived, like the writers were really desperate to convince us that they had this planned all along.

Speaking of Ward though, that scene where Garrett is beating him up while drilling him on who he is genuinely have me chills. It also makes me wonder if he's given up his identity before, who he really was.

Contrived, yes, but there's a lot of good about that talk between Ward and Raina. I especially liked the distinction they mmade between Ward's relationship with either of his superior officers, made even more interesting by following that up with the scene with Garret you were talking about.

I'm actually interested in Ward now, which is a quite the feat the writers have managed.
 
Fury may have been worried enough about Coulson to have May spy on him, but at the end of everything, with their backs o the wall, Coulson's his bro, and May is a nobody. If there's one person he's going to rely on, it's him. You really think Nick Fury would go through all that effort to put May back together if she was speared by an Asgardian's sceptre?

I did find it weird that Fury trusts May enough to monitor and potentially kill Coulson, but not enough to let her in on whether he's alive. (TWS spoilers)
To be fair, he did the same thing with Black Widow in TWS. Maybe he just doesn't fully trust women that remind him of himself?
Or, maybe, they don't really know what to do with her character.
 
Hot damn, I was pretty meh about most of this series but the past few episodes have been fantastic, one of the few shows I am itching to see the next episode of.

Really hope this gets renewed.
 
Skye is necessary. Like you said she's the audience surrogate, but she is also Coulson's favorite (and his pupil in some sense). Simmons could have filled the hacker role but not the other aspects of Skye's character without losing her own backstory and connection with Fitz. She's too involved with SHIELD. Skye was not.

So I think she does have a place in the show, but the writers have been kinda clumsy about figuring where and why until recently. Didn't help that her lines for much of the beginning were pretty bad. I do like Chloe Bennett though. She's cute and has good enough chemistry with everyone except Ward (until recently I'd say). Now that she's a an 084, things will be interesting I hope.
I think they need to bring back some fanservice.
O_o Why was this show canceled? And holy shit, they have to nurf his powers if they want him to give the Agents an "even" fight.
Why? jeph Loeb.
 
I just found out Chloe Bennet went to my high school.

She was an incoming freshman as I was leaving...

**nevermind it's the Chicago branch

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Graviton is *so* far outside of their league, if they are actually bringing him back as a villain he is going to have to job hard as fuck to sell being beaten by these assclowns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC2EhcsBP8o

I've seen saying this since that scene at the end of episode 3 teased him as a potential future villain/threat.

There's just no way they can take him and there's really no way the show budget will be able to him justice. I dare not begin to imagine how much they'll nerf him. Especially after how they handled Deathlok.

I really wish the show would continue to make up villains/threats instead of attempting to bring in a crazily OP one that even the Avengers struggle to put down...
 
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