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Youre dying, b---h: MN jury hears audio of man shooting teen intruders to death
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You're fucked up man. They were so young and they definitely could have turned their life around. Now they don't have a chance.
Yep. You gambled and lost, kids.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Man some of you are straight sociopaths.
the moral of the story is: if your house ends up getting broken into, don't be a fcuking asshole and "put someone out of their misery". Wait for the cops to come. Fuck castle laws
The Faceless Master
Member
that's what i said.
You got me, Mr. Swag. Haha!
What's wrong with that?
DrForester
Kills Photobucket
Someone breaks into your house, you have every right to shoot them. It's not your responsibility to know what they're doing breaking into your house. They chose the break in, they chose to accept the risk that they might be killed. The fact that these kids were unarmed should not even be an issue in this case.
That being said, this guy shot them when they were injured and posed no threat, so screw him. You shoot the intruders, and then you call the police if they're incapacitated.
SuperAndroid17
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65 year old vietnam vet :|
I don't agree on breaking into someone's home nor do I agree on executing already downed suspects. Tragic all around
Also.. this is not fucking theft. This was a burglary. Know the difference please.
I don't agree on breaking into someone's home nor do I agree on executing already downed suspects. Tragic all around
Also.. this is not fucking theft. This was a burglary. Know the difference please.
Uh, the home owner could have been killed in an alternate scenario. When you break into someone's home you deserve everything coming to you. It's disgusting. I don't think it's right what he did but if it's the home owner versus the burglar I'd side with the home owner every time.
tools who's only purpose is murder should not be idolized the way they currently are. If anything, they should be outlawed. They make life a lot more fragile than it should be. One small irreversible movement of an index finger should not be a able to end a life.
SyaraSystem
Neo Member
This is some Saw-level shit.
God damn.
God damn.
You have no idea what my avatar means or represents. The fact is I've never touched a firearm in my entire life. Take your rhetoric elsewhere.
Boom Boom Pow
Banned
or just don't break into people's home and none of this would have happened?
PlayALLtheGames
Banned
Trigger happy, old, white trash piece of shit. If he had shot them and randomly hit them in the head, I'd actually defend him, but to do what he did is murder.
Necromanti
Member
A statement like that allows for a lot of leeway in interpretation, though, which isn't something that is reflected in the legislature. Having someone break into your home doesn't transform your house into a war zone where anything is permitted. I don't know if I can agree with "deserved", either, depending on how you would qualify "anything".
Winterfang
Banned
Well he shot her and apparently she was going to die a slow agonizing death so he gave it a killshot. The problem is not really the efficiency of his gun shots or that he prepared himself for a breaking, is that he found enjoyment in it.
Yeah, I think the wording has to be careful. I mean, if a burglar breaks in, does that give you the right to beat him, shoot him in the legs, and then cut off his limbs with a chainsaw, and then string his body parts up in your yard to show what happens to burglars that enter your home?
I know that was an extreme example, but this guy shot them multiple times, and then put a gun to their heads at close range and killed them. In this scenario, he could have waited to see if they had stopped resistance. They were young, I doubt they meant serious harm. Everyone has to use good judgement, even the owner of a home that is getting burgled.
DrForester
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See this is the problem. Burglar's NEVER deserve to be killed. That being said, I think a home owner has every right to defend themselves. The burglar's death will be tragic, but in the end, it is a tragedy that they caused by their own actions. This guy was totally within his rights until he "finished them off". He had a right to shoot (even to shoot to kill), but once these two burglars were incapacitated he no longer had any right to do them further harm, and any decent human being would have called the police.
What I never understood is why people are up in arms about marijuana, when meds can be just as bad and addictive.
George Claw M.D.
Member
Fucked up all around. Kids were criminals that didn't need to be killed after it was clear they were incapacitated and posed no threat. Dude was obviously paranoid after having his house broken into multiple times and his paranoia was validated after getting broken into yet again.
Seems like a clear case of murder to me, but the part I'm less certain about is premeditation. How do you premeditate getting your house broken into? By parking your car far away?
Seems like a clear case of murder to me, but the part I'm less certain about is premeditation. How do you premeditate getting your house broken into? By parking your car far away?
Exactly.
Thing is, what's so wrong with being a victim of theft?
sure you're shit gets stolen, but at the end of the day, you did nothing wrong. Let the bad people do the bad things, and then have the professionals (the police) handle the dealing out of punishment. You're insurance will help you recoup financial losses, and you will be the same person you were before.
now, if you decide to murder the intruder, you get the chance to say you're a killer!! Yay. Then, you have to go to court and defend yourself, and stare into the face of the murder victims family. But at least your shit doesn't get stolen.
I just don't understand how shit > life to some people.
law breaking life is still life.
sure you're shit gets stolen, but at the end of the day, you did nothing wrong. Let the bad people do the bad things, and then have the professionals (the police) handle the dealing out of punishment. You're insurance will help you recoup financial losses, and you will be the same person you were before.
now, if you decide to murder the intruder, you get the chance to say you're a killer!! Yay. Then, you have to go to court and defend yourself, and stare into the face of the murder victims family. But at least your shit doesn't get stolen.
I just don't understand how shit > life to some people.
law breaking life is still life.
because there are legitimate businesses lobbying for those interests.
drug dealers ain't got no lobbyists.
Commenting on his choice of avatar is highly personal and off topic.
PlayALLtheGames
Banned
The problem is that putting someone "out of their misery" is not legally recognized. I don't care if she's gasping for air and spitting up blood; he should have called 911 and left her alone; maybe even tried to help her in some way. If he had done that, he wouldn't be getting charged for murder.
Winterfang
Banned
A Theft and a Burglary are different, a good comparison would be someone stealing your purse and running away as opposed to a mugging. I don't live in Minnesota but in here, most burglaries are armed and usually end in rape/murder if the victim happened to be home at the time.
There's also the psychological damage lf not feeling safe in your own home, knowing that anytime strangers can enter, steal your stuff and cause you harm. I'll personally be very afraid if it happened to me.
There's also the psychological damage lf not feeling safe in your own home, knowing that anytime strangers can enter, steal your stuff and cause you harm. I'll personally be very afraid if it happened to me.
Schweinehund
Member
This seems pretty open and close. This is murder, plain and simple.
Schweinehund
Member
As I understand it, a lot of people become super paranoid/lose a sense of security after their house is broken into. If someone could so easily break into your house, what would stop them from killing you?
I'd rather be paranoid than live life knowing I'm a murderer.
the life of a pacifist :
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
Oh, I sure hope this is a joke.
PlayALLtheGames
Banned
Yes he did. When someone is clearly incapacitated and you blow their head off, you deserve a murder charge. As I mentioned, the "he put them out of their misery" thing is not a defense.
I will bet money right now that this guy was the kind who fantasized about a situation like this where he could blow away a robber and enjoy doing it. Every single person that's involved in these types of cases is.
Mr.Wreckless
Banned
You break into someone's home and I feel no remorse for WHATEVER happens to you. Sorry.
Delta Assault
Member
Wtf? James Bond did the exact same thing in Skyfall.
5-7% including any level of violence is not "most" or "usually." It's still a scary statistic, though, I'll give you that.
Oh, here we go: http://www.theatlantic.com/national...-the-irrational-fear-of-home-invasion/266613/
Approximately 100 burglary-homicides per year, out of something like 2.25 million burglaries per year. Granted, burglaries aren't the only type of home invasion, but it's still a pretty far cry from "most."
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
So, Are you okay with raping someone who broke into your house? Since anything goes at that point.
The guy set a trap, using his seemingly empty house as bait, in order to shoot and kill intruders who would take that bait. It's absolutely murder. Premeditated murder.
Boom Boom Pow
Banned
what insurance helps you recoup homeowner property lost?
Napoleonthechimp
Member
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
IAmRandom31
Banned
Take away peoples guns and they will just kill each other with knives.
Take away knives and people will grab a rock and beat someone to death.
Try and take away all the rocks and people will just learn karate and kill each other with their hands and feet.
Cut off everyones arms and you will have people kicking someones head in to death.
Taking away guns would do nothing. Crime will happen. There will always be fucked up people in the world who wish to do harm on another person and they will use whatever means at their disposal to inflict that harm.
you're saying guns = knives?
a lot of people survive stabbings compared to survive shootings.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Of course.
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