Absolutely yes.
It resizes with Bicubic sampling rather than Bilinear sampling which gives a better end result image.
GeDoSaTo - Downsampling from Infinity and Beyond!
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Absolutely yes.
It resizes with Bicubic sampling rather than Bilinear sampling which gives a better end result image.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
What the fuck is with all this fear-mongering?
I assume that when people hear the Word "Banned" they assume that means your entire account gets nuked permanently (which i must stress does not happen) .
I do can understand the fear of losing your Steam account that you have perhaps spend 1000's of money on (Even though that Fear is totally unfounded even if you got a ban which is worst case scenario ) so i can see where people are coming from .
But as some have already said and let me repeat myself : receiving a VAC ban does not mean you lose access to your account or all your games ,but merely lose access to the online play of games that Have VAC enabled .
In a way , getting VAC banned on Steam is actually less severe (depending if you play multiplayer or not) than getting Banned on Gaf.
I assume that when people hear the Word "Banned" they assume that means your entire account gets nuked permanently (which i must stress does not happen) .
I do can understand the fear of losing your Steam account that you have perhaps spend 1000's of money on (Even though that Fear is totally unfounded even if you got a ban which is worst case scenario ) so i can see where people are coming from .
But as some have already said and let me repeat myself : receiving a VAC ban does not mean you lose access to your account or all your games ,but merely lose access to the online play of games that Have VAC enabled .
In a way , getting banned on Steam is actually less severe (depending if you play multiplayer or not) than getting Banned on Gaf.
It's even narrower than that in a lot of cases. For most non-Valve games, you only lose access to online play in that specific game. Dark Souls II apparently blocked/blocks you for having any VAC bans at all, but they're treating that as a bug.
Valve themselves say that there can be days or weeks between a detected cheat and a VAC ban. It's to make it harder for people to work around cheat detection if they immediately know what gets them banned.
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?p_faqid=589
If anyone else has any questions about VAC or wants to know how it works and what not i recommend you read the Steam page about it .
Most of your answers will be found in there.
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7849-RADZ-6869
Most of your answers will be found in there.
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7849-RADZ-6869
Snapshot King
Member
Certainly, but it doesn't answer the most important question, whether or not GeDoSaTo will get you a ban. I can understand why they wouldn't, though.
Cuban Legend
Member
I died.
In other, more interesting news, I tested some games.
I installed Dollar Dash just to test the app on it. Another Unreal Engine game seems to work fine. Bunch of max quality 4K jpgs here.
Games that I tested that allowed me to select the resolution, but didn't scale the image down so I ended up only seeing the center of 4K image:
Broken Age
Broken Sword 3
Aquaria
Has anyone managed to get any Unity engine games working? I tried Ittle Dew and Erica Reed, Ittle Dew didn't get past the unity launcher, Erica Reed got in the game, played the intro video and then crapped out.
I installed Dollar Dash just to test the app on it. Another Unreal Engine game seems to work fine. Bunch of max quality 4K jpgs here.
Didn't test further because god what an awful game.
Games that I tested that allowed me to select the resolution, but didn't scale the image down so I ended up only seeing the center of 4K image:
Broken Age
Broken Sword 3
Aquaria
Has anyone managed to get any Unity engine games working? I tried Ittle Dew and Erica Reed, Ittle Dew didn't get past the unity launcher, Erica Reed got in the game, played the intro video and then crapped out.
So about VAC: Yes, you could be banned for using GeDoSaTo.
Personally, I consider that fairly unlikely though. GeDoSaTo makes no changes outside of its own dll, and most significantly it does not alter the game state in any way. I believe VAC is selective enough to know the difference.
But don't blame me if you do get banned - the possibility is not 0.
Personally, I consider that fairly unlikely though. GeDoSaTo makes no changes outside of its own dll, and most significantly it does not alter the game state in any way. I believe VAC is selective enough to know the difference.
But don't blame me if you do get banned - the possibility is not 0.
Interesting, I'll have to have a look at one of these some time, I never had that error patter so far.
M&M X is Unity and works.
Huh, after I disabled the Gedosato AA to use only the inspector settings, as well as turning off the game DoF and AO for the tool and inspector to hopefully override respectively, I learn that I can run this rendering at 4k resolution at 60 fps now. I wonder if I had some bits fighting against each other.
I'm still pretty green at this tweaking thing, but I enjoy it a lot.
I'm still pretty green at this tweaking thing, but I enjoy it a lot.
Dictator93
Member
Wonderful to hear. Tweaking is actually oddly enjoyable. I always try and attain the perfect performance and IQ. It takes time, but gotta put all that hardware to work.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Dark Souls 2 just became VAC
You'll be banned from games that use the same engine/executable thingie. If you get banned in Counter-Strike: Source, which is hl2.exe then you'll be banned from all hl2.exe games.
If I get VAC banned I won't care too much but that "VAC ban(s) on record" text on my profile is going to look pretty bad. Or we might have a MW2 situation and get some free games out of it.
Krusenstern
Banned
It didn't have VAC right from the start?
It will probably not get you banned.
On the off chance that you are banned, that ban essentially means they won't let you on the DS2 multiplayer servers.
Relax.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
It was never listed on the steam page till now.
As someone who is on NG+++ on PS3, I decided that I don't really care if I get banned for using GeDoSaTo on PC. I am playing it again mostly for the graphics, so i am going YOLO on the VAC ban.
PS. Durante, praise the sun. Your third release fixed the stuttering issue I have been experiencing! 4K gaming baby!
I am very new to modding and am a bit lost. Can someone tell me what I need to enter to downsample from 1440p to 1080p in the ini file?
I see all this resolution width and height stuff and haven't a clue what I need to change things too.
I have a 660 so I cant go as extreme as the default but am unclear of all that I need to change.
I see all this resolution width and height stuff and haven't a clue what I need to change things too.
I have a 660 so I cant go as extreme as the default but am unclear of all that I need to change.
crap monkey
Member
In the .ini file look at the section that says rendering resolution and look at the two lines that aren't preceded by a hashmark. So change the first number to 2560 and the second to 1440. Then go down one section to the output resolution and make sure that the two lines that don't have a hashmark preceding them match your monitors resolution. Start the game up and in the main menu go to the video settings and choose the 1440p resolution. Now you're set and should be downsampling.
AnyoneInCherno
Member
Is there any way I can use Gedosato alongside SweetFX in other games, namely Batman: Arkham City and Dishonored?
Cannon Goose
Member
GeDoSaTo has its own sweetfx built in, I think.
AnyoneInCherno
Member
It's only for Dark Souls 2 though. I have a really good SweetFX preset for Arkham City that I spent dozens of hours creating and fine-tuning, and I'd really like to be able to use it whilst also playing at 4k.
crap monkey
Member
Should I be disabling SSAO, DOF, and AF in-game if I'm using GeDoSaTo?
As others have reported, with alpha3 it seems SSAO and DoF aren't working (if I enable them via the in-game menu they certainly work).
However, more interestingly, when I set GeDoSaTo to downsample from 2560x1600 to 1680x1050, my framerate takes a pretty big hit. But if I use my normal method of downsampling (having used the registry trick from 12.8->13.1 catalyst drivers), my framerate is terrific, and it looks sublime.
Much more testing would be required to ensure I was using GeDoSaTo correctly in the first place (I'm sure alpha2 was working flawlessly - and there are many other settings that may have caused the framerate drops), however for now atleast, I've gone back to default Dark Souls 2.
Have a flashed 6950->6970, for reference.
However, more interestingly, when I set GeDoSaTo to downsample from 2560x1600 to 1680x1050, my framerate takes a pretty big hit. But if I use my normal method of downsampling (having used the registry trick from 12.8->13.1 catalyst drivers), my framerate is terrific, and it looks sublime.
Much more testing would be required to ensure I was using GeDoSaTo correctly in the first place (I'm sure alpha2 was working flawlessly - and there are many other settings that may have caused the framerate drops), however for now atleast, I've gone back to default Dark Souls 2.
Have a flashed 6950->6970, for reference.
Few more downsampling tests.
Sin Episodes seems to work for me, I saw on the list that it didn't before. But then again that list appears to have some other problems too, so maybe it's not reliable? I dunno. Maybe someone messed with the list or something.
Anyways, that source options menu is tiny, any larger resolutions and it gets a little crazy. Full max quality 4K jpgs here.
These games only show black screen after changing resolution. No crash and the game keeps running as the music keeps playing and I can hear the cursor moving in menus and such.
Dreamfall
Tomb Raider Anniversary
Tomb Raider Legend
Oh and hey Durante, even though the screens are sorted neatly in their own folders, would it be possible to put the exe name in the file name as well? Maybe even make it configurable.
Also, you said earlier that the eventual goal is to make this plugin based, so more games can have game specific settings, right? In the introductory blog post you also mention that "it uses a far more solid injection and interception method than my earlier efforts". So I'm curious, would there be any benefit at all to eventually "port" DPfix and DSfix to GeDoSaTo as plugins? Is the more solid injection and interception a "big deal" in that sense? Any other potential improvements, like new SMAA and SSAO code?
And I fully realize that this is probably ways of in grand scheme of things anyway, but I figured I'd ask anyway.
Sin Episodes seems to work for me, I saw on the list that it didn't before. But then again that list appears to have some other problems too, so maybe it's not reliable? I dunno. Maybe someone messed with the list or something.
Anyways, that source options menu is tiny, any larger resolutions and it gets a little crazy. Full max quality 4K jpgs here.
These games only show black screen after changing resolution. No crash and the game keeps running as the music keeps playing and I can hear the cursor moving in menus and such.
Dreamfall
Tomb Raider Anniversary
Tomb Raider Legend
Oh and hey Durante, even though the screens are sorted neatly in their own folders, would it be possible to put the exe name in the file name as well? Maybe even make it configurable.
Also, you said earlier that the eventual goal is to make this plugin based, so more games can have game specific settings, right? In the introductory blog post you also mention that "it uses a far more solid injection and interception method than my earlier efforts". So I'm curious, would there be any benefit at all to eventually "port" DPfix and DSfix to GeDoSaTo as plugins? Is the more solid injection and interception a "big deal" in that sense? Any other potential improvements, like new SMAA and SSAO code?
And I fully realize that this is probably ways of in grand scheme of things anyway, but I figured I'd ask anyway.
diablo900t
Member
I've been wondering this too
WilltheMagicAsian
Member
If you're using GeDoSaTo's DoF, disable in-game DoF. If you're using the SSAO you can disable in-game SSAO as well, that'll just double the effect.
diablo900t
Member
So the only visual effect setting in-game that should be turned on is anti-aliasing, correct? I thought I read that has to be enabled in order for GeDoSaTo to work.
StarCreator
Member
Correct, you must leave the in-game anti-aliasing turned on. Everything else should be turned off in-game if you use GeDoSaTo's equivalent feature.
zephervack
Member
I have been using tools that work in a similar fashion as GeDoSaTo for years in VAC enabled games and I have never been VAC banned, I would be extremely surprised if anyone got banned for it, it would be super weird.
The tools I use BTW are WidescreenFixer and Flawless widescreen, they fix/modify the FOV of the games they support to play it in triple screen resolution.
I have more than 500 hours of Modern Warfare 2 using Widescreen Fixer to play Multiplayer in triple screen and have never been banned.
The tools I use BTW are WidescreenFixer and Flawless widescreen, they fix/modify the FOV of the games they support to play it in triple screen resolution.
I have more than 500 hours of Modern Warfare 2 using Widescreen Fixer to play Multiplayer in triple screen and have never been banned.
yeah 0.3 definitely breaks all AO, and the problem is not in the new VSSAO2.fx file
Geforce 560Ti here
can't even really use 0.2's version of working SSAO because it leaves these weird faint dark horizontal lines across the screen in addition to doing what it's supposed to do
You should disable SSAO in GDST and also the in game SSAO if you use HBAO+.
Yes, there would besome minor benefits, but not nearly enough to justify the huge amount of work for almost the same end result.
Not really, the old method works for those two games. It's just much more important for a generic tool.
That's good to know.
Yes.
Doesn't seem to work with Child of Light at the mo despite playing around with all the settings
Though I'm sure Durante is going to pick that game up at some point in time.
Using regular old bog standard driver downsampling really brings out a lot in the artwork and in the "field" your character is in 3D so really cleans up the aliasing and that's just at 3200x1800.
Though I'm sure Durante is going to pick that game up at some point in time.
Using regular old bog standard driver downsampling really brings out a lot in the artwork and in the "field" your character is in 3D so really cleans up the aliasing and that's just at 3200x1800.
Hahaha yeah tried both and didn't show anything apart from what I have set through Nvidia Control Panel. It shows all my other custom resolutions so why it doesn't pick up GeDoSaTo is beyond my capability. Definitely a DX9 game as well.
Game still looks gorgeous at 3200x1800 though (although there's a black fade in battle transition effect that doesn't scale higher than 1920 in width which is a bit jarring) so I'm sure you have more important things on your plate.
Game still looks gorgeous at 3200x1800 though (although there's a black fade in battle transition effect that doesn't scale higher than 1920 in width which is a bit jarring) so I'm sure you have more important things on your plate.
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[Asmodean]
Member
I've been doing some more work on the VSSAO shader for this (if anyone is interested).
I still can't figure out why some are reporting that the latest vssao version is causing them massive performance drops over the previous. I've been benchmarking both and I've the same performance with both of them.
Anyway, I've been experimenting with using depth as the base for the sampling radius, instead of hard coded values (eg: 0.2). So far, it's turned out quite nicely, at no extra performance cost, that I've noticed.
Some comparison screens below (raw AO output to clearly show differences.)
I still can't figure out why some are reporting that the latest vssao version is causing them massive performance drops over the previous. I've been benchmarking both and I've the same performance with both of them.
Anyway, I've been experimenting with using depth as the base for the sampling radius, instead of hard coded values (eg: 0.2). So far, it's turned out quite nicely, at no extra performance cost, that I've noticed.
Some comparison screens below (raw AO output to clearly show differences.)
Previous Sampling
New Sampling
Previous Sampling
New Sampling
[Asmodean]
Member
I can upload it for testing a bit later. I've quadruple-checked it for performance, and unless there's black magic going on somewhere, on some people's systems. I simply can't see why it's causing such an fps hit for some lol.
On my gtx 680 with latest beta drivers - I've 2% less GPU useage with my latest version, over the GeDoSaTo v0.2 VSSAO(the version people are saying has better performance for them).
Unless I'm missing something, I'm stumped >.<
Edit: oh yeah, Durante - it would seem that it doesn't need the skybox y-vec cutoff anymore since you worked on getting AO output in the base HDR pass. I just kept in there anyway to be safe, as it does no harm. The 0.3 changes work excellently my myself so far by the way. I'm still kind of that they have no shadow buffer in some areas.
On my gtx 680 with latest beta drivers - I've 2% less GPU useage with my latest version, over the GeDoSaTo v0.2 VSSAO(the version people are saying has better performance for them).
Unless I'm missing something, I'm stumped >.<
Edit: oh yeah, Durante - it would seem that it doesn't need the skybox y-vec cutoff anymore since you worked on getting AO output in the base HDR pass. I just kept in there anyway to be safe, as it does no harm. The 0.3 changes work excellently my myself so far by the way. I'm still kind of
that they have no shadow buffer in some areas.
Vow of Silence
Banned
There seem to be quite a few people reporting that VSSAO doesn't work at all with 0.3 - is this widespread or is it just affecting a few people? What's the commonality? Anyone with an Nvidia card find it's not working? I'd quite like to have VSSAO working in my game, having to make do with the default at the minute. There's not really a good way to find this out other than a load of boring 'works for me, my specs are.../doesn't work for me, my specs are' type posts.
So I'll start:
Doesn't work for me, my specs are: ASUS Radeon 6950 on the latest 14.4 WHQL drivers, 16:10 monitor (1680 x1050).
So I'll start:
Doesn't work for me, my specs are: ASUS Radeon 6950 on the latest 14.4 WHQL drivers, 16:10 monitor (1680 x1050).
I have a "way out there" idea about the issue. Zenball, or anyone suffering from it, can you try running the game at 1280x720 fullscreen and see if you get AO?
I achieved asimilar effect by fixing (or at least improving) the linearization of the depth.[Asmodean];109963582 said:
I think keeping it is the best choice, it should actually speed things up (skipping all that sampling for sky box pixels).[Asmodean];109971190 said:I can upload it for testing a bit later. I've quadruple-checked it for performance, and unless there's black magic going on somewhere, on some people's systems. I simply can't see why it's causing such an fps hit for some lol.
On my gtx 680 with latest beta drivers - I've 2% less GPU useage with my latest version, over the GeDoSaTo v0.2 VSSAO(the version people are saying has better performance for them).
Unless I'm missing something, I'm stumped >.<
Edit: oh yeah, Durante - it would seem that it doesn't need the skybox y-vec cutoff anymore since you worked on getting AO output in the base HDR pass. I just kept in there anyway to be safe, as it does no harm. The 0.3 changes work excellently my myself so far by the way. I'm still kind of