FinalStageBoss
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I can already imagine the pvp battles
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RUMOR: Project Beast (From Software/Sony Japan Studio, PS4) [Port begging = ban]
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Americanmushroom
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Net_Wrecker
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i don't see it as a problem for singleplayer as the BEASTS can just eat some shots and nobody will have to worry about lag. PvP would be weird though depending on how much damage they do, how much ammo players have, and how fast they are.
If there is any PvP.
And if there actually are any guns.
And if this game still exists in the form these rumors present.
Just depends on implementation and what kind of guns they are. Shotguns are a rather new weapon though, with the Blunderbuss being historical predecessor (which is also a pretty new weapon - 1750s onward are where historically known shotgun-type weapons began).
Haha, yeah.
They can keep damage within a small range like most fps game do to shotguns and have a sound before the gun goes off.( like the sound of the wheellock/ flinklock mechanism) so you can time a proper roll etc.
Cool pistol from 1540s made for Emperor Charles V.
sublimit
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He was teasing it in Demon's Souls 2 related context.
They can keep damage within a small range like most fps game do to shotguns and have a sound before the gun goes off.( like the sound of the wheellock/ flinklock mechanism) so you can time a proper roll etc.
Cool pistol from 1540s made for Emperor Charles V.
Good point. An audio cue could help a lot in this case.
Those hand mortars are beautiful.
Well, it's possible the game may not even have rolling (Shadow Tower Abyss, the only other precedent for guns, didn't have rolling). Again, it's hard to even get a lot of specifics on the mechanics. About the best discussion you can have is just on historical placement of all of this stuff and its relevance (potentially).They can keep damage within a small range like most fps game do to shotguns and have a sound before the gun goes off.( like the sound of the wheellock/ flinklock mechanism) so you can time a proper roll etc.
Cool pistol from 1540s made for Emperor Charles V.
I guess that's why we never see social marketing agency types or MS executives around here managing the message. Oh wait...
Schweinehund
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I'm curious if this is linked to DeSouls or it's own universe and if we're going back to Boletaria, in the future, or the past. The old one wasn't really killed off and it was said that he had already been awakened once so it is feasible that this could be a prequel or sequel.
Baron Aloha
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First thing that crossed my mind was Demon Souls X Monster Hunter.
Bring it!
Bring it!
Night Angel
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This game is in third person, not first. It's almost a certainty there will be dodging, since there appears to be melee as well.
Could still be balanced by having a LONG reload timer between individual shots and making it a "stand still for a second and not get hit at all to maintain concentration" type of thing.
KoopaTheCasual
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Beast's Soul: Always strapped.
Schweinehund
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Are people seriously concerned guns will be crazy good?
When's the last time you did a crossbow only run through in Dark Souls?
When's the last time you did a crossbow only run through in Dark Souls?
Only in pvp. I never fired a 17th century weapon before, but I guess the projectile would be faster than an arrow
Not sure what you're basing this on. We have screenshots (maybe? they could just FMVs or something else) and no information. Also the King's Field series is something they're famous for and stating that them going back to that style as an impossibility is silly.
Night Angel
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I'm basing it on the only info we have. The images clearly show a 3rd person view similar to DS games.
jackissocool
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The Order, bro.
They are famous for Armored Core and Dark Souls. They are not taking away 3rd Person mechanics established in the Souls games for First Person King's Field mechanics. The leaked images even a show a 3rd Person perspective.
Schweinehund
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It would, but the arrow fired from crossbows in game is hardly as fast as it should be in real life. We're talking about something that can pierce through plate easily.
I'm imagining guns will be single shot, have slow reload, will be fast, good base damage, low requirements, but really crappy scaling, and will be able to aim like you can with bows.
StoppedInTracks
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Guys, can you point me the shotgun on those screens? Like take MS Paint and draw a red silhoutte of it. I cannot see it for the life of me.
Crazy good for invasions/PvP is about the only concern being shown. Crossbow projectiles move slower and can be dodged.
Will most likely be balanced just fine for PvE content with a long reload timer or something.
Net_Wrecker
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For all we know, the Beast Souls title we've been joking about could be literal and PvP would see players becoming beasts in a sort of Left 4 Dead PvP where it's player characters vs. player beasts, and this whole "How does gun work" topic will be irrelevant.
Or, again, maybe there won't be any PvP and this will be a significant change from the structure of the Souls games in order to really set it apart.
We know nothing Jon Snuh
Wasn't aware of From Software being bought out by Kadokawa Games recently ^
http://www.complex.com/video-games/2014/05/project-beast-next-gen-reveal
StoppedInTracks
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I can see the pirate cutlass just fine, though.
Yeahp. We pretty much know nothing. We know whatever's being created is probably from From Software. Though we could all just end up being trolled by some jack-off on 4chan who pasted a logo over some other project. Amongst many other possibilities...
Schweinehund
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Well the leaker said shotguns in his description. So we'll have to wait until footage to see what kind of shotguns he's talking about.
Thaumaturgic Tomato
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Guns aren't a bad addition. As has been pointed out, they had them pretty early, when people were still wearing armor. There are even some examples of early guns built into swords (sort of like Squall's Gunblade lol). So I don't see how this invalidates the fantasy setting at all (it's maybe not medieval but still fits pretty well).
Armor even had a "proof mark" (meaning bullet proof) to ensure it could withstand a bullet. See the lower left belly in this example.
And this could add a whole new level to shields, too:
WOW this is incredible. This stuff really didn't start with anime. Look at the craftsmanship. And all done by hand..Stunning. Not just the gunblades, but the variety of trick blades that look straight out of Dark Souls or any crazy take-your-pick anime/game.
Googled some more. This is brilliant. Even more so knowing they didn't use computer programs to make prototypes, simulation, and then have robots with lasers cut and carve the weapon into existance.
Check this site for start: http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_spot_combo.php
More at http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_spot_combo.phpA gun-axe. Again, a gun-AXE circa 16th century.
gun-axe 1551. 1551!
Pistol/crossbow combo 16th century
GunShield 1550
GunCutlery
gunblade 1590
Anyway, I'm excited about this game. If it is indeed Miyazaki doing another Demon Souls type of game, I hope gunplay is limited. If it was intended for E3 reveal, I think total silence from Sony until then would be best for building hype. A teasy leak like this can build excitement on its own. Plenty of time to have this seed sprout into a mighty oak at E3. Cheers to high expectations and no letdowns!
I feel the exact same. Yes it's been leaked but the anticipation to see if this is actually real and see the trailer running can reach fever pitch. In fact I already can't wait till E3!
Cool stuff like this makes me bummed that things like the History channel have become a shell of their former selves and are no longer about history. Would love to watch a special about ancient gun+melee weapons. And if shit like this is in this game it would be pretty awesome.
TheRealTalker
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Almost on page 100 on hype alone
Damn
Damn
Coulomb_Barrier
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Ok. Now this is the bit of info that makes me believe which I didn't know about.
I thought SJS logo was in the pics. This morning I went through them again and realised it was only From's. So then I started wondering if the exclusivity assumption was only based off rumours.
That makes it much more concrete.
Uncle Rupee
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Cool, I wasn't aware they made gun axes and gun cutlery! That's crazy.
But yeah, I doubt gunplay will be the focus. If they go the historically accurate route, most of these weapons could only fire a single round before reloading, so as some have speculated it may be a bit like crossbows with even more time spent reloading.
Yup, the inclusions of early guns like flintlock rifles are a great fit and won't change the world setting into the modern era.
Does this look like a high fantasy setting? I'd understand if there were laser guns in this type of setting, but a shotgun isn't a big deal. Other fantasy games use guns. Look at FF XII for one with its guns and airships.
I don't see why Souls has to stick with its current setting either. Branching out means new ideas.
They could make it so there's a slight delay between pressing attack and the character actually firing the gun during which the lock-on stops tracking. Accompanied by an audio cue, this could give an approaching player a reasonable chance of getting out of the way.
Exactly. I mean, if Berserk has guns, why not a Souls game?
Uncle Rupee
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Honestly after the backlash against DS2's reliance on big knights, you'd think a few new ideas would be something to cheer.
Personally, I was sort of hoping the next DS-like game would take place in ancient Japan.
CMojicaAce
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I had to google what a mindflayer was and got this:
which immediately reminded me of these from Demon's Souls:
hype!
I hated those things ;_;
I wonder if they'll do something for the beta. Exclusive access with The Last Guardian or whatnot.
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