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RUMOR: Project Beast (From Software/Sony Japan Studio, PS4) [Port begging = ban]

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If it is true then praise the sun for there finally being a game on the current gen of consoles worth looking forward to. My god it's been a boring ass start to a console generation...
 
Thanks for the reply jschreier, certainly sounds messy. I'd love to hear about the AC leak, but I'd gather you could share too much about that.
endurosQuad said:
Doesn't look like next-gen at all
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I disagree, the quality is ass, but the assets are clearly a notable step up. The series hasn't been a graphical powerhouse so far either.
 
I really hope this doesn't use the Dark Souls 2 engine. I don't know what From did but the hitboxes in DS2 are so fucking bad and they haven't even acknowledged it. All the hubub about 'bububu mai lighting ; ;' when the real problem with the game has flown under the radar. Dark Souls hitboxes with dedicated servers would be ace.
 
So I'm sure this has been discussed to death already but it's possible that Bloodbourne and Project Beast are one and the same? The name doesn't seem to unreasonable either.

I'm sure Sony wouldn't want to separate it from the Souls series as it already has the brand name, but perhaps FROM made a deal with Sony to call it something else so as to not piss off Namco.

Like I said, I'm sure it's been mentioned already in the thread but not sure I can be asked to go through 100 pages.
 
I hope that whoever leaked those screenshots doesn't loose his job in case they found out who he is because judging by this thread (and other gaming communities) he made hundreds of thousands fans happy.So whoever you are i drink to you my friend! :)
 
impact said:
I really hope this doesn't use the Dark Souls 2 engine. I don't know what From did but the hitboxes in DS2 are so fucking bad and they haven't even acknowledged it. All the hubub about 'bububu mai lighting ; ;' when the real problem with the game has flown under the radar. Dark Souls hitboxes with dedicated servers would be ace.
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This can be fixed, just needs optimization from the programming team. Of all the talk of A and B team, the programmers is the department with the most changes in DS2. If anyone is going to get it "right" I would bet it's the team on Beast who have the experience on DeS and DS1.
 
jschreier said:
Little bit of backpedaling here. "They wouldn't want to bite the hand that feeds them and risk getting less info slung their way" sure seems like you attacking reporters' integrity.
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Well then you see what you want to see.

jschreier said:
(Also totally not accurate.)
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Not accurate that breaking an embargo one has agreed to (not talking about this particular thread's rumor of course) wouldn't somehow damage the relationship between the developer/publisher and the outlet/reporter the information was given to? lol ok.

jschreier said:
Part of me wishes we'd just stop agreeing to previews like that in the first place, because participating in a publisher's marketing cycle by far is the least interesting (and most gross) part of this beat for me, but I don't know how realistic that would be.
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I totally agree. I wish that would stop too but I also don't think it's realistic given the need for sites to generate revenue to cover operating costs, unless of course Gawker Media sites decided to go down the subscription route and lock certain content behind a paywall. I don't know how well that'd work for Kotaku i.e. what kind of content you could provide at a premium, but I could see it working for some of the other sites in that family; io9 and Lifehacker come to mind.
 
Orthogonal said:
This can be fixed, just needs optimization from the programming team. Of all the talk of A and B team, the programmers is the department with the most changes in DS2. If anyone is going to get it "right" I would bet it's the team on Beast who have the experience on DeS and DS1.
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The Dark Souls 2 engine is the engine they developed for next gen/PC.
 
endurosQuad said:
Doesn't look like next-gen at all
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Right, this is everyone up to my previous post. I've got to get some sleep, so if someone else wishes to pick up where I left off, feel free! (I got up to hitsugi and you're back on CMojicaAce!)

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Menome said:
Right, this is everyone up to my previous post. I've got to get some sleep, so if someone else wishes to pick up where I left off, feel free! (I got up to hitsugi and you're back on CMojicaAce!)

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Amazing work! /salute

Hardly any room left on this train :P
 
Fushichou187 said:
Not accurate that breaking an embargo one has agreed to (not talking about this particular thread's rumor of course) wouldn't somehow damage the relationship between the developer/publisher and the outlet/reporter the information was given to? lol ok.
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No no, that's not my point. "Wouldn't want to bite the hand that feeds" implies that we have a fear of damaging relationships with developers and publishers for fear of them denying us access to their products, which isn't true. We would (and have!) run stories and leaks that hurt our relationships with the companies that we cover. We wouldn't be doing our jobs if we refused to do that.

(Of course, there's a difference between damaging a relationship by covering a story that a publisher doesn't want in the open and damaging a relationship by breaking an embargo. There are very few cases where the latter would be justified.)

Fushichou187 said:
I totally agree. I wish that would stop too but I also don't think it's realistic given the need for sites to generate revenue to cover operating costs, unless of course Gawker Media sites decided to go down the subscription route and lock certain content behind a paywall. I don't know how well that'd work for Kotaku i.e. what kind of content you could provide at a premium, but I could see it working for some of the other sites in that family; io9 and Lifehacker come to mind.
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Video game previews don't generate all that much revenue.
 
Dusky said:
So I'm sure this has been discussed to death already but it's possible that Bloodbourne and Project Beast are one and the same? The name doesn't seem to unreasonable either.

I'm sure Sony wouldn't want to separate it from the Souls series as it already has the brand name, but perhaps FROM made a deal with Sony to call it something else so as to not piss off Namco.

Like I said, I'm sure it's been mentioned already in the thread but not sure I can be asked to go through 100 pages.
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Can't imagine Namco has much of a say. If the name was an issue for From, they would've never went with Dark Souls.
 
Soulhouf said:
This is the sequel to Shadow Tower Abyss.
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How do people keep coming to this conclusion? I haven't seen any screens that even remotely hint at this being a FPS...

Is it the possibility of adding firearms to the arsenal? The shots we have and the text from the leaker indicate that this is a Souls-esque game more than anything else.
 
W!CKED said:
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That's exactly the bullshit I'm talking about. Your statement makes no sense at all and if you had a tiny bit of understanding how these things work, you would not write such nonsense.

Please stop it.
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You ask me to stop and then fail to quantify or back anything you're saying up. Genius.
 
StuBurns said:
I disagree, the quality is ass, but the assets are clearly a notable step up. The series hasn't been a graphical powerhouse so far either.
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Yeah, by Souls standards it's next-gen, by the standards of someone like Naughty Dog it'd actually be a step back. Of course they now develop very different games even putting aside their levels of technical expertise.
Menome said:
Right, this is everyone up to my previous post. I've got to get some sleep, so if someone else wishes to pick up where I left off, feel free! (I got up to hitsugi and you're back on CMojicaAce!)

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May as well throw me on, this is the game that'd sell me on a PS4 if I didn't already have one.
 
jschreier said:
Well, it depends. This is actually something we've been discussing a lot recently, because it seems to happen so often -- some media were pre-briefed on that new Borderlands game, for example, and it leaked two days before the embargo.

In a case like that, there's no way a publisher can realistically demand that media ignore the leak, because that would be stupid. Once the information is out there, it's out there. A publisher can, however, ask that we maintain our own embargo -- in other words, we wouldn't be able to report or write about anything we learned through whatever interviews or materials they sent us under condition of embargo, because we agreed to that condition in the first place. (Remember: game publishers don't owe us information. Embargoes are not a bad thing -- they exist in part to ensure that writers can all compete on an equal playing field.)

But this presents an interesting dilemma: What's a site to do when a leak like that happens? Do they run the leak as a rumor, pretending they don't know it's true (arguably misleading their readers)? Do they say fuck it and just break embargo? Do they ignore the leak entirely?

There's no easy answer here. Part of me wishes we'd just stop agreeing to previews like that in the first place, because participating in a publisher's marketing cycle by far is the least interesting (and most gross) part of this beat for me, but I don't know how realistic that would be.
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If you consider yourself a journalist I think you have a duty to inform, no matter what. Stay independent and do what you have to do. If that means publishers will no longer show you exclusive, behind-closed-doors stuff then so be it.
 
Someone put me on that train please. Demon souls is one of my favourite games of all time.

as long as its better than the Ukrainian train I was on couple of weeks ago.......
 
jschreier said:
Well, it depends. This is actually something we've been discussing a lot recently, because it seems to happen so often -- some media were pre-briefed on that new Borderlands game, for example, and it leaked two days before the embargo.

In a case like that, there's no way a publisher can realistically demand that media ignore the leak, because that would be stupid. Once the information is out there, it's out there. A publisher can, however, ask that we maintain our own embargo -- in other words, we wouldn't be able to report or write about anything we learned through whatever interviews or materials they sent us under condition of embargo, because we agreed to that condition in the first place. (Remember: game publishers don't owe us information. Embargoes are not a bad thing -- they exist in part to ensure that writers can all compete on an equal playing field.)

But this presents an interesting dilemma: What's a site to do when a leak like that happens? Do they run the leak as a rumor, pretending they don't know it's true (arguably misleading their readers)? Do they say fuck it and just break embargo? Do they ignore the leak entirely?

There's no easy answer here. Part of me wishes we'd just stop agreeing to previews like that in the first place, because participating in a publisher's marketing cycle by far is the least interesting (and most gross) part of this beat for me, but I don't know how realistic that would be.
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Wouldn't you be able to report what the other site reports without implying it's a rumor if you know for a fact what they report is true without breaking the embargo by reporting on your first hand knowledge/experience?
 
The only things I need from this game are tighter hixboxes, better animations, 1080p, and 60FPS. Better textures and particle effects is just icing on the cake. I would like to see the lighting ideas from DS2 see some burn in this game too.
 
jschreier said:
No no, that's not my point. "Wouldn't want to bite the hand that feeds" implies that we have a fear of damaging relationships with developers and publishers for fear of them denying us access to their products, which isn't true. We would (and have!) run stories and leaks that hurt our relationships with the companies that we cover. We wouldn't be doing our jobs if we refused to do that.

(Of course, there's a difference between damaging a relationship by covering a story that a publisher doesn't want in the open and damaging a relationship by breaking an embargo. There are very few cases where the latter would be justified.)


Video game previews don't generate all that much revenue.
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I really gotta thank you for responding to this stuff in a way that is classy and informative.
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That's just it tho, isn't it? That I as enthusiast would want to know that, say, sim city is busted or whatever the damaging items are. It is frustrating to have my trust violated because outlets are beholden to the entities they cover to not harm them. I don't want them harmed, unless events warrant.
These days I feel like it is what it is, but let's be clear about what it is, right? I rarely doubt the honesty in a story, I do often question the story selection and the headline (and tagline if there is one).

I also apologize for the derail, but i've never had the chance to approach a writer on the topic.
 
Night Angel said:
How do people keep coming to this conclusion? I haven't seen any screens that even remotely hint at this being a FPS...

Is it the possibility of adding firearms to the arsenal? The shots we have and the text from the leaker indicate that this is a Souls-esque game more than anything else.
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This is the closest thing I could think of. Dark Fantasy setting with firearms reminds me immediately of Shadow Tower Abyss.
Demon's Souls was a sort of spiritual successor to Shadow Tower. That's why it's not surprising that this new title be a sort of spiritual successor to ST Abyss.
 
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