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[ShinoguTakeruKoeru]

Wait.

Now that Harry knows who Spidey is, doesn't that mean Aunt May's not safe?

I feel like between that and the whole bit where Peter was afraid of handing over his blood, we're being set up to the next film's dramatic conflict where Aunt May will be radioactively poisoned by a blood transfusion that Peter willingly did with her and he'll have to fight whoever the villain is for the rare isotope that can cure her. That's just random speculation though.

I like to think that Peter was replaying that last moment where he tried to save Gwen in his head when he's standing there by her grave. Just torturing himself over how he could have saved her, if he could have used his webbing differently or caught her another way, wasn't he burdened by this in the comics for a bit soon after her death?

 

[Spinluck]

He pieces it together when he sees them together at the Power Plant.

He's locked up.. I think.

 

[reggie]

This movie is borderline Batman & Robin of the Spider-Man franchise. Just pure trash. How anyone could enjoy this I have no idea. Movie made me angry. Spider-man 3 was fucking better than this turd. Writing, directing, chemistry, acting, just shit. Emma Stone was probably the only decent likeable thing in the whole movie.

Fuck this movie.

 

[FUBAR McDangles]

Avi Arad gave a bullshit response as to why we won't be getting Miles Morales on screen anytime soon.

Gotta link?

Never liked that Arad guy. Just seems like a total prick.

 

[Neander]

i didn't get why spiderman was getting pinballed around for the start of the electro fight at the powerplant, but then was able to dodge his attacks fine after gwen showed up.

I swear I was thinking of Freddy vs Jason when I saw that (the part where Freddy was pinballing Jason around). Lol.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gdzR73BMYI&app=desktop

 

[happypup]

never read the comics or watched the shows much, but does spiderman ever get 'upgrades'? he has had 'side grades' but has he ever just got a 'power boost' that isn't some temporary thing with side effects?

well, sort of, he has increased the number and kinds of gadgets he uses over time, but he often seems to forget he has them.

 

[CartridgeBlower]

Is it possible that Sony doesn't own the rights to Miles Morales...

 

[Trike]

Sony should just make another Raimi/Tobey film and pretend like these never happened.

Considering Spider-Man 3 and what 4 were looking like I don't think that is a good idea. Although it would be hilarious for them to revert back and ignore ASM1&2. They are pretty much fuck regardless, because they have to stick with the stupid shit from the first two even if they get a new team. Can't reboot it this early, and I am assuming it will do well enough for more sequels.

 

[kurahador]

Can't reboot it this early, and I am assuming it will do well enough for more sequels.

Venom+Carnage trilogy incoming.
I can feel it!!

 

[ReiGun]

Gotta link?

Never liked that Arad guy. Just seems like a total prick.

The Playlist: Are Miles Morales (“Ultimate Spider-Man”), Ben Reilly (clone Spider-Man) or Miguel O’Hara (“Spider-Man 2099&#8243 on the table? If you want a Spider-Man movie every year why not bring in some of the other variations?

Tolmach: No.

Arad: No. The one thing you cannot do, when you have a phenomena that has stood the test of time, you have to be true to the real character inside – who is Peter Parker? What are the biggest effects on his life? Then you can draw in time, and you can consider today’s world in many ways. But to have multiple ones… I don’t know if you remember, but Marvel tried it. And it was almost the end of Spider-Man.

http://www.slashfilm.com/miles-morales-movie-spider-man/

 

[Buntabox]

The movie literally boxed Jamie Fox for 45mins to tell a poorly executed and quickly ramped up plot of Harry being angry and getting fired. I found it very tiresome as it went on, but overall found most of it enjoyable.

From the bridge scene with Gwen and Peter to the end was pretty solid. Stone and Garfield were really the glue of the flick. Garfield's crying was the worst thing ever to watch (cause he's good at it).

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

I think I will wait till it's out on dvd/bd to see it. Totally lost interest.

 

[MickeyPhree]

This is a bad movie. Electro and rhino are hardly in the movie and you get about four minutes of the green goblin. What the hell were they thinking?

 

[BBboy20]

I feel like I'm in Bizzaro world with these reactions. And even I'm still loyal to the MCU.

EDIT: reading more of these posts gives me the impression this film is like a Rorschach test of what a viewer perceives what a movie is.

 

[MickeyPhree]

I feel like I'm in Bizzaro world with these reactions. And even I'm still loyal to the MCU.

It suffers the same problem as 3. Trying to cram too much stuff in. Plot is all over the place.

I really really dislike Andrew Garfield.

 

[Asbel]

Gwen's death was done really well but at the start of the movie, Spidey takes his jolly time stopping the robbers when he's joking with the driver. He's putting bystanders at risk and that just made me feel like Spidey didn't care that people could die from his actions.

 

[Quick]

Gwen's death was done really well but at the start of the movie, Spidey takes his jolly time stopping the robbers when he's joking with the driver. He's putting bystanders at risk and that just made me feel like Spidey didn't care that people could die from his actions.

One of the issues I had with this movie was bystanders. Almost every Spidey fight had an audience cheering and/or reacting like it's a show until shit got real.

 

[happypup]

Gwen's death was done really well but at the start of the movie, Spidey takes his jolly time stopping the robbers when he's joking with the driver. He's putting bystanders at risk and that just made me feel like Spidey didn't care that people could die from his actions.

But that is Spider-Man. He often exchanges some quippy banter with the baddies, and some reassuring dialog with his rescuees. The difference is that in the comics these things can happen in a single panel, so it seems like less time is passing.

 

[Trike]

Venom+Carnage trilogy incoming.
I can feel it!!

Venom spinoff is already in the works. Surprised Venom wasn't mentioned/teased in the movie considering they did during production. Unless they are canning the Ultimate origin and are going to do go with the classic approach. Ultimate version could still work, considering I doubt Dick Parker only worked on spiders his whole career. But I don't know how they could do that and still tie in Eddie Brock Jr like that. Harry's back story seemed to borrow heavily from Ultimate Eddie Brock Jr.

 

[crimsonheadGCN]

Did anyone think that the Stan Lee cameo was his worse cameo to date? It felt like they just redid one of his previous cameos in a new setting.

 

[Asbel]

But that is Spider-Man. He often exchanges some quippy banter with the baddies, and some reassuring dialog with his rescuees. The difference is that in the comics these things can happen in a single panel, so it seems like less time is passing.

I know he likes to banter but do it when no bystanders can get hurt or to distract the villain from hurting others.

 

[Trike]

One of the issues I had with this movie was bystanders. Almost every Spidey fight had an audience cheering and/or reacting like it's a show until shit got real.

I had a huge problem with that too. Who the hell would do that? Rhino had two giant ass guns. Also isn't he on a rampage across town? How did they already put up barricades? It made even less sense for them to be cheering him on when fighting Electro, considering the series of "I don't trust Spider-Man" audio clips. Also did they forget everything he did ASM1 to save the city? I mean, so many people in the city came to help him at the end of that one. It seems like the police supported him but the public didn't, which is just weird.

 

[Zeyphersan]

Venom spinoff is already in the works. Surprised Venom wasn't mentioned/teased in the movie considering they did during production. Unless they are canning the Ultimate origin and are going to do go with the classic approach. Ultimate version could still work, considering I doubt Dick Parker only worked on spiders his whole career. But I don't know how they could do that and still tie in Eddie Brock Jr like that. Harry's back story seemed to borrow heavily from Ultimate Eddie Brock Jr.

I really hope they do the Ultimate approach, actually. I don't think I want symbiotes as an alien species to be in the films, it's such a "comic book" thing that I don't think would translate as well as people hope. They don't even need it so Richard Parker worked on the project (though they'll use that, since they fucking love that character so much)

 

[K.Sabot]

The YMS review of this popped into my YT sub box and it is amazing.

 

[Scarecrow]

Yeah, Spider-Man was dicking around too much at the wrong times. It's great when he's teasing the bad guys, but not so much when other cars and shit are being squashed left and right.

 

[McBryBry]

Personally, I enjoyed this quite a bit. It kept me interested the whole time, the only things I didn't like was Electro's death, which would mean no more of him, and how fast they pretty much brushed past Gwen's death. Other than that, I liked it quite a bit.

 

[crimsonheadGCN]

The YMS review of this popped into my YT sub box and it is amazing.

I love this review.

 

[Shaanyboi]

Just got back. It was okay. Way better than the first one if nothing else.

Spidey and all of his physicality and little moments were great, especially the little kid in the alleyway. Peter started off kinda poor but became more sympathetic as it went on, and the same can be said for the Peter/Gwen relationship. The opening with the parents was cool. I always hated the comics thing of his parents being SHIELD agents (ugh...) and I'm glad they found a more fitting story for them here. Also the scene with Aunt May getting angry about Peter's dad was great. Gwen's speech was... ugh. The worst form of foreshadowing. But starting the movie on a shot with a watch and killing Gwen in a clocktower? That was atleast a cool choice.

Max Dillon was... ehhhh... outside of his first scene, he was just kinda annoying. Atleast he was more entertaining when he became Electro. The Times Square sequence was great. This is hardly a bastardization of the character though, considering Electro is a really shitty villain in general. I mean they made him threatening here and OP as fuck, but otherwise, there was never anything interesting to work with in the first place. Him being nothing but a goon is more or less his speed. Same for Rhino. Rhino sucks and has always sucked. There's nothing to ruin. Speaking of Rhino, that CG on him at the end looked real bad. But whatever.

Dane DeHaan was a great Harry Osborn though. That scene with him reuniting with Peter sold me on him completely. The Goblin part at the end though kinda didn't work completely. It went too over the top, but not by much considering...

And with Gwen's death, I thought it was a great sequence EXCEPT for the web hand. That pushed it too far. I see the idea there, and it would make a great painting depicting that moment, but it felt too silly and resulted in a few snickers from the audience, myself included. But anyways, I'm glad they went ahead with killing Gwen, and did it in such a fast, brutal way. Damn... It was just ice cold.


Anyways, it was okay. Afew lines that didn't work, their version of Dr. Kafka was... what? Interesting use of Electro's powers but they didn't succeed in making his character very compelling. Harry was great. Gwen/Peter became funner to watch as it went along. And again, all the Spider-Man stuff was on-point. Wasn't great, but hardly "AWFUL" like people on here are saying. And yeah, so much for the "TOO MANY VILLAINS" problem that people were expecting.

 

[Killing_Joke]

I've been going back and forth on whether or not this is the worst SM move ever. I think i'm going to say yes. It felt like a really long horrible chick flick that featured SM.

- Trailers ruined the movie like i figured. Every action scene spoiled. Including the last 10 secs. I know that's been done a bunch of times but it stuck out here more for some reason.
- God damn that Rhino scene was horrible. Like really horrible. Bane planting icicle bombs horrible. Catwoman playing basketball horrible. Why would dozens of people stand and watch a fucking Rhino tank blasting away at cops? WHY IS EVERYONE WATCHING A 10YO BOY ABOUT TO BE ANNIHILATED? Why is the cop stopping the mother from saving her boy while no one else is?? This scene eclipses the battle royale fight in SM3 where everyone is standing like a bunch of idiots watching monsters fighting that can kill them any second. At least that scene had some humor. Shit humor but humor nonetheless. Maybe i'm being harsh but i just really hated that scene.
- 2hr21min movie with about 15min worth of decent action. And by decent i mean everyone swinging in circles.
- Music sucked. Hans dropped the ball on this one.
- I didn't see any chemistry between Gwen/Peter imo. Felt forced as hell. These are 18yo geniuses/superhero acting like their in middle school. Peter/MJ relationship was far more believable. Love the scene where Gwen smiles joyfully when Peter revealed he's been stalking her for awhile. Her death scene did nothing for me. I felt more sympathy for her family more than i did for Peter. In fact i hated Peter by the end of the movie.
- Rhino tank/Harry disgustingly underused. Giamatti was atrocious.
- Why is Peter so dumb in this movie?
- Why was Sony so bad at product placement with their own stuff?
- Electro was a hit and miss. Mostly miss.
- Andrews NY/english accent or whatever the fuck he was trying to do was horrible.

I can go on and on and on and on. Most of it is probably nitpicking but imo worst SM movie ever.

 

[Rentahamster]

Not bad, I guess. The slow-mo fighting scenes were kickass and that bassy villain theme was cool.

Villain motivations were dumb, though. Harry is also an idiot.

 

[kirblar]

I actually liked it, but how did stuff like the Plane scenes get past the editing bay? Was absolutely ridiculous.

 

[BLACKLAC]

The YMS review of this popped into my YT sub box and it is amazing.

Holy shit this is amazing!

Dead

 

[K.Sabot]

I was dead @ "He hates-a-me".

 

[catotheyounger]

I didn't like the movie too much, but one thing in particular bugged me the most was Zimmer's score. Pieces felt like were recycled from his work in Crysis 2. Not as bad as James Horner's recycling, but I feel it was noticeable and drew me out.

first minute of TASM2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UnEiZMcdi0

first minute of Crysis2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiAyvV1XefY

 

[Wolf Akela]

I probably remembered wrong, but didn't Peter use Bing in ASM1? He switched to Google this time.

 

[Shaanyboi]

I probably remembered wrong, but didn't Peter use Bing in ASM1? He switched to Google this time.

He got really pissed at Microsoft over the Xbox One reveal

 

[Dryk]

Who the hell is running Sony Movies these days? Surely they know ASM1 and 2 have been a pale imitation of MCU. So they recognised the money spinning potential with Spidey license and yet they allow crap people to handle these movies? It is a matter of time one of the spin-offs becomes a box office bomb, people will eventually get tired of their careless directing.

The people in charge probably don't see a pair of famous hack writers. All they see is how much money Transformers and Star Trek made and decide that those are the guys they want because they bring in money.

And yeah I think they can't write a coherent story to save their lives but they can write big budget spectacle that gets arses in seats.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

The YMS review of this popped into my YT sub box and it is amazing.

I didn't like ASM2, but this guy sounds like an annoying douchebag.

 

[Proponent]

Watched it last night, me and my wife thought it was pretty good.

Why were there some scenes missing from the trailers btw? I remember seeing one scene where all of Peter's actions were being tracked by oscor

This is an excellent point. I also remember that scene in the trailers.

 

[george_us]

Just got back from seeing it and enjoyed it quite a bit. While the movie isn't without it's flaws (Electro feeling underused), I felt this movie had higher highs than Raimi's movies. For one thing, the chemistry between Garfield and Stone is amazing. Too many great moments between them. Aunt May explaining what happened to Peter's parents was heartbreaking. I also loved Spider-Man's interactions with the public, especially the kid. Overall a much better movie than Amazing Spider Man. It might even be my favorite. I'll have to go back and re-watch the first two.

 

[kirblar]

They wanted to save the reveal for "yes, he knows its peter" for the end.

 

[Castcoder]

It might even be my favorite. I'll have to go back and re-watch the first two.

First two, you mean first thre-- ...oh...

 

[Zeyphersan]

The more I think on this movie the stronger my dislike of it gets

 

[MagicWithEarvin]

I liked the first ASM better, the second one was just all over the place for me. Really boring dialog and pacing.

 

[MutonCommander]

Sony should just make another Raimi/Tobey film and pretend like these never happened.

Amen brother.

 

[Spinluck]

Gotta link?

Never liked that Arad guy. Just seems like a total prick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiTjcbLVVOU

He basically says that a non Peter Parker Spider-Man wouldn't sell. He might be right, but I would've rather they tried that than a Venom film lol.

 

[Killing_Joke]

I might have time lines mixed up so bare with me. But i can see why some think Peter is an asshole.

Harry was no where near a villain until he ejects himself with the Venom. Peter had zero reasons to be THAT cold to him. First off Peter Parker is a science genius right? Why the fuck doesn't he offer some knowledge to help him? Or why couldn't he at least say. "let me see what i can do?" Instead it's a "um idk, no byelol". Then he comes back as SM to fucking cock tease him?! Still no "i'll see what i can do i'm super smart we'll work it out". Just a bunch of fuck you goodbyes.

Now this is the part where my timeline is iffy. Peter finds out his blood is the golden ticket. So why didn't he think "hmm maybe my blood might work after all!". Instead Harry, who is VERY desperate for a cure takes the Venom.

 

[kirblar]

Peter's reluctance is vindicated by the message from his dad. The venom doesn't work right unless you share enough genes w/ Richard Parker. It's why Harry reacts badly to it (and we can see that Norman clearly got desperate enough to try it as well.

 

[Zeyphersan]

I might have time lines mixed up so bare with me. But i can see why some think Peter is an asshole.

Harry was no where near a villain until he ejects himself with the Venom. Peter had zero reasons to be THAT cold to him. First off Peter Parker is a science genius right? Why the fuck doesn't he offer some knowledge to help him? Or why couldn't he at least say. "let me see what i can do?" Instead it's a "um idk, no byelol". Then he comes back as SM to fucking cock tease him?! Still no "i'll see what i can do i'm super smart we'll work it out". Just a bunch of fuck you goodbyes.

Now this is the part where my timeline is iffy. Peter finds out his blood is the golden ticket. So why didn't he think "hmm maybe my blood might work after all!". Instead Harry, who is VERY desperate for a cure takes the Venom.

Peter found out that his blood WOULDN'T work from the video from his father, where Richard says that he engineered it so it only works for him and "his bloodline"

 

[ezekial45]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiTjcbLVVOU

He basically says that a non Peter Parker Spider-Man wouldn't sell. He might be right, but I would've rather they tried that than a Venom film lol.

I do understand his position. People have a very clear idea of who Spiderman is, and his identity - and changing that to someone knew would probably bug most people out.

Mile Morales might be a great character, but he's still a part of the Ultimate Spiderman story, which is separate from the central Marvel lore (the one everyone knows of). I wouldn't mind to see them try, but I can totally understand why they would be reluctant to.