Well it is they guy who made "should MS stop having E3 Conferences" thread.
What could Microsoft show at E3 to finally get you to buy an Xbox One?
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Well it is they guy who made "should MS stop having E3 Conferences" thread.
sechsterangriff
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Shenmue, HD collection or sequel.
I'm genuinely having a hard time finding out whether or not you're actually serious. I mean, we're talking about the same company that forces Rare, albeit far from their Nintendo form, to make Kinect Sport games? If you were sarcastic, excuse my obliviousness.
I suppose you're right, Microsoft "needs" it to vary their line-up. But mannn I'm dying for a new BK. It's just a big shame they don't do anything with it. Banjo-Tooie is one of my all time favourites. Unfortunately never played Banjo-Kazooie before, but I recently bought a second-hand X360 so I'll download it from XBLA very soon.
RoninChaos
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Not quite as far gone as you but I'm close. I'mDies Iræ;110549107 said:
Honestly worried about buying a product that they can strip features out of via firmware. The 180 they did only happened because of tremendous backlash and I feel like they'll still institute the same kind of stuff later.
Insane Metal
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No kinect, price drop and more appealing games.
But MS's developers are the least likely to need to save money, they're funded by MS and are working on big franchises like Fable and Gears.
I just think it feels like MS would rather save money by using UE4 or whatever, than increase the value for the consumer by putting out a game that pushes cutting-edge technology.
Randy Lanzarote
Member
"The Elder Scrolls, Fallout and Mass Effect franchises, all completely 100% exclusive to Xbox One for this generation. Oh and we're now £249."
Then they'd have me.
Then they'd have me.
Exploratory
Banned
Unreal Engine 4 and Cryengine aren't cutting edge technology? Says who? Why?
mightynine
Member
At this point? Nothing. After the disasterous reveal, I was set for a PS4, and even it doesn't have enough yet for me to jump in.
It probably doesn't help that I got a PS3 just a while back and have a ton of stuff through PS+ and sales to work through, like Guacamelee (which I had to tear myself away from this morning).
That, plus Wii U, 3DS, and Vita, and my time for video games is tight enough as it is.
It probably doesn't help that I got a PS3 just a while back and have a ton of stuff through PS+ and sales to work through, like Guacamelee (which I had to tear myself away from this morning).
That, plus Wii U, 3DS, and Vita, and my time for video games is tight enough as it is.
Jaded Alyx
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Either HL3 or BG&E 2 exclusive. And I don't mean timed exclusive.
That's about it.
That's about it.
Well the best-looking exclusive games that were built on proprietary engines last generation almost all looked better than games that were built on middleware running on the same consoles. The only UE game I can think of that is an exception is Gears of War. But there were none that looked as good as TLOU, Halo 4, or Forza Horizon, or Banjo-Kazooie.
I don't think it's impossible to think that this trend will continue.
I'm not knocking UE or Cryengine or suggesting for a second that developers who choose to use them are lazy or lacking talent, or whatever. But I do feel like MS should be building their own in-house proprietary engine(s). I mean that's what Sony does, so it's not as if there isn't a precedent already.
Byronic Hero
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$249
Banjo-Kazooie 3 (3D Platformer, not more of that Nuts & Bolts crap) - Non-negotiable
Lost Odyssey 2
Then MAYBE I'd consider a purchase.
Banjo-Kazooie 3 (3D Platformer, not more of that Nuts & Bolts crap) - Non-negotiable
Lost Odyssey 2
Then MAYBE I'd consider a purchase.
Sure. That is what I characterized as "weird ideologue". And as I said, I understand the sentiment that Microsoft's original intentions with the system may put you off. But I think that taking the attitude that nothing could ever make up for it seems like a comically hard-line position to take.
Microsoft has a shitload of money. There is a lot of stuff they could realistically do. Take a look at all the stuff they did to try to win Japan last generation: Exclusive version of the best Tales game, exclusive deal with Sakaguchi, securing otaku games like Idolmaster and shmups.
I'm not just talking about joke responses like "drop the price to $99" or "buy Nintendo".
Could they buy one of my favorite developers? In the past year, From got bought by Kadokawa and Atlus got bought by Sega. It's certainly possible for Microsoft to do something like that.
Could they get great exclusives (timed or permanent) from third parties? Look at last generation. In that first Summer of Arcade you had Bionic Commando, Braid, Castle Crashers, Galaga Legions, and Geometry Wars 2. The next year had Trials HD, Splosion Man, and Shadow Complex.
Well, realistically I don't think it's anything they could show, I'd consider the PS4 and even the Wii U over the Xbox.
But they could certainly raise my interest a bit by announcing some RPG thing (and no, not bloody Fable). In my eyes both the two first Xbox machines were very weak on singleplayer exclusives, Mass Effect and KotoR are the only ones I can recall being excited about.
But they could certainly raise my interest a bit by announcing some RPG thing (and no, not bloody Fable). In my eyes both the two first Xbox machines were very weak on singleplayer exclusives, Mass Effect and KotoR are the only ones I can recall being excited about.
Unknown Soldier
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If they still made PC versions of those, I would just buy the PC versions.
It's a good thing he said "all completely 100% exclusive to Xbox One for this generation" then, isn't it?
I don't see what about that makes you a 'weird ideologue' though. I mean if you're saying, 'it doesn't matter what they do, they can always win me back with games', you're basically just giving them carte blanche to swindle you.
Ol No Bones
Banned
I already have one so its not like what I say matters but if I wasnt able to have both consoles the game that would have put me over the edge for the Xbox would be phantom dust so I'm eagerly waiting for that announcement. Phantom Dust might be my favorite game ever.
Ol No Bones
Banned
Damn is the Wii U even that low priced.
At this point? I really don't know if anything would. Same goes for the PS4. Both consoles have had lacklaster exclusives, and more devs are going multiplatform. Consoles are also now just as expensive as a similarly specked PC (which is more versatile). Add to that the fact that Xbone still charges for online play and access to online services, and I just don't see how they'll ever convince me.
I'd love a reason to buy one, but I can't for the life of me imagine what it would be.
I'd love a reason to buy one, but I can't for the life of me imagine what it would be.
A Shenmue HD Collection + Shenmue 3 might do it for me. Lost Odyssey 2 would definitely do me in. Hell, Rock Band 4 that's BC with DLC and instruments would definitely do me in even if it's multiplat. I'm not giving up everything I accumulated on the 360 ecosystem in relation to those games. Anything Halo-related would probably tempt me but I'd probably just wait it out and play it at my friend's house.
I think I'm waiting until a redesign for the Xbox One otherwise. It's like the PS3 circa-2008 to me right now. A pretty undesirable product and piece of hardware with some games that still tempt me nonetheless.
I think I'm waiting until a redesign for the Xbox One otherwise. It's like the PS3 circa-2008 to me right now. A pretty undesirable product and piece of hardware with some games that still tempt me nonetheless.
One can get a Wii U for only $200 refurbished from Nintendo's online shop. They closed their online shop temporarily at the moment though, they're remodeling it for about a week.
GluedOnBeard
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Contrary to the title it is Sony who have to show me they have anything worth buying the console for and games are not delayed into next year like the whole Drive Club scenario.
That being said Microsoft need to show Kinect becoming more reliable and get some great single player experiences shown at E3 as at the moment a lot of games seem to have too much focus on multiplayer.
That being said Microsoft need to show Kinect becoming more reliable and get some great single player experiences shown at E3 as at the moment a lot of games seem to have too much focus on multiplayer.
What sort of ongoing policy makes you characterize any game company as "swindling" customers for making appealing games?
You've taken the 'making games' bit entirely out of context, which was their using shiny new games as the sugar to coat the bitter pill of DRM, always online, etc., as well as whatever grim policies they might introduce further down the line.
Shit, Sony won people back with games. I don't see anything wrong with it.
Byronic Hero
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Exactly. All the stars have to align for me to even consider getting a One.
Yes but, besides moving multiplayer behind PS+, Sony have won people back by combining consistent game releases with not trying to egregiously fuck over consumers and stuff like IGC.
Nothing realistic that I can think of at this point.
Early Xbox 360 era of exclusive RPGs (both western and Japanese) would do it, i.e. Lost Odyssey 2, Mass Effect 4 and more, but I don't see that happening.
That being said, I'm still excited to play the next Halo games and Quantum Break at a friend's house.
Early Xbox 360 era of exclusive RPGs (both western and Japanese) would do it, i.e. Lost Odyssey 2, Mass Effect 4 and more, but I don't see that happening.
That being said, I'm still excited to play the next Halo games and Quantum Break at a friend's house.
VibratingDonkey
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If they keep saying and doing things that aren't bullshit, then Quantum Break, D4, Sunset Overdrive, Forza Horizon 2 and either a price drop or an appealing bundle ought to do it.
TheVisualizer
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1. Kinect-less SKU $350 or less
2. Four or more impressive unannounced games I will not be able to play on PS4 in the next year
to even get my attention
2. Four or more impressive unannounced games I will not be able to play on PS4 in the next year
to even get my attention
Galactic Barret
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That sounds exactly like making a deal with the Devil. Or a Djinn.
History has proven you shouldn't make deals with Devils or Djinns or Devil Jins or Microsoft.
Are you going to simply pretend the substantial hardware inferiority doesn't exist? Both consoles will have exclusives with varying degrees of appeal. At the end of the day though the vast majority of games on any given console, and ultimately in your games library, will be cross platform. If you buy the XBone you are stating you don't mind having the inferior versions of said titles for the rest of this gen.
The anti-consumer stuff that was and continues to be driven by Microsoft just them going out of their way to destroy what brief moments of appeal the console does have. For instance I do believe Phil Spencer is genuinely trying to turn around what happened with the XBone in the past and I've found a lot of what he's said to be very appealing, yet then bam last week they're back to pulling that "magical cloud makes the XBone 300% more powerful crap at the Japanese launch which is kind like throwing a bucket of ice water on the face when you think maybe just maybe things are looking up over in Redmond.
Keep a hold of it though. When you have a bunch of things ready, maybe you could put them all together in one thread. Something like "Signs point to Crackdown 3" or something like that.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
A white Xbox One with a 1TB HDD so I can replace the one that I have now.
Andodalf
Banned
As a MS fan, not much. Pc just seems so much more appealing. They need to get the price down (399$) with kinect. They need the exclusive I care about (Halo) to be top notch. A strong showing of other exclusives would be nice.
A few wildcards would instantly buy me one, and might be possible. Tales of vesperia 2 for one.
A few wildcards would instantly buy me one, and might be possible. Tales of vesperia 2 for one.
El-Pistolero
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Nothing, unfortunately. The Xbox software universe never appealed to me (except for Lost Odyssey and the burried PGR 
....).
But interested in watching the conference. Who knows! In a couple of years, when the console gets enough exclusives and a significant price drop, it could become a viable option to me...
....). But interested in watching the conference. Who knows! In a couple of years, when the console gets enough exclusives and a significant price drop, it could become a viable option to me...
grap3fruitman
Banned
Banjo-Kazooie 3. It has to be good too. I'd wait for reviews but I would buy a hardware bundle with special edition system.
Stealth_Cobra
Member
Nothing.
I never buy two consoles per generation, and I'm more than happy about my PS4.
The way I see it , gaming is an expensive hobby, and I'm not paying 500 bucks on hardware and accessories to own a secondary console just so I can play the few rare exclusives that aren't ported eventually to the competition or on PC. I'd rather buy 500 bucks worth of PS4 games than waste said money buying hardware so I can play a couple exclusives I don't really care about anyway. Never cared about Halo or Gears, and I sure as hell won't care now that they are overplayed.
And that's not even going into all the moral issues I have with Microsoft, and how IMHO they contribute nothing worthwhile to the gaming industry other than buying talent, timed exclusivity , bribing developers with fat paychecks for bogus exclusivity deals and overall treating developers like garbage, be it indies or big developers, running down creative teams and forcing them to churn out sequel after sequel.
Both Sony and Nintendo actually make games, they work hard creating content for their respective consoles... They invest in their internal studios and they greenlight creative and interesting projects. Meanwhile MS pays devs fat paychecks so their game only comes out for Xbox consoles.
I never buy two consoles per generation, and I'm more than happy about my PS4.
The way I see it , gaming is an expensive hobby, and I'm not paying 500 bucks on hardware and accessories to own a secondary console just so I can play the few rare exclusives that aren't ported eventually to the competition or on PC. I'd rather buy 500 bucks worth of PS4 games than waste said money buying hardware so I can play a couple exclusives I don't really care about anyway. Never cared about Halo or Gears, and I sure as hell won't care now that they are overplayed.
And that's not even going into all the moral issues I have with Microsoft, and how IMHO they contribute nothing worthwhile to the gaming industry other than buying talent, timed exclusivity , bribing developers with fat paychecks for bogus exclusivity deals and overall treating developers like garbage, be it indies or big developers, running down creative teams and forcing them to churn out sequel after sequel.
Both Sony and Nintendo actually make games, they work hard creating content for their respective consoles... They invest in their internal studios and they greenlight creative and interesting projects. Meanwhile MS pays devs fat paychecks so their game only comes out for Xbox consoles.
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