NFL Draft 2014 |OT| Thursday on ESPN/NFLN

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Apprently it was well known before the 22nd pick that the Vikings were going to trade back up for Bridgewater. The talk of them losing out to the Browns for Manziel must have been a smokescreen or they thought the Browns wanted Teddy.

Multiple reports said the wanted JFF. I'm sure they want it out that they wanted Teddy, but real time the reports were they wanted Manziel


I'm taking Pettine at his word that he does not want to start a rookie QB. Seriously the only thing we have to hope for is Hoyer doesn't get injured. If that happens then oh boy.

I believe Pettine will be a strong enough voice to combat anyone (ESPN, fans) who want Johnny to start.

Plus we also do have Vince Young, Tyler Thigpen and possibly one more free agent QB to sign.

This is the problem, and it goes for any QB that a team is trying to develop, including Bortles and Teddy. There are only so many snaps available in practice. If you want your young QB to get better, you want him throwing with the first team in training camp, vs the first team defense

During the season, when snaps are even more limited, you want your young QB taking all those first team snaps in practice. CLE wants JFF throwing to Josh Gordon. Just like they want Gilbert learning his craft by going up against Gordon.

The trade off is of course the starter, if it isn't the young QB, needs those snaps so he can help the team win games. If they split snaps, you are both hurting the team's chance to win and also slowing the QB's development. Most backup QBs take very few snaps during the season with the first team

So Pettine can talk all he wants about competition, but the reality is he has to make a decision early on, or he's going to start a QB week one that is more under-prepared than he should be
 
Multiple reports said the wanted JFF. I'm sure they want it out that they wanted Teddy, but real time the reports were they wanted Manziel

Those reports weren't true. Spielman was spilling the goods to a few inside media people at the draft last night, and they were talking about it on the radio this morning.
 

That hurts so much. They should have traded something to move up to 20 and get Dix, everyone on Earth knew the Pack were going to take him. I would feel a million times better about having Dix then Smith, hell I would rather have Dix then Smith + who ever they get in the 3rd/4th. I really feel like they blew the 1st round last night. I thought that the days of super questionable picks ended when Reid left town. Also 2 years in a row the first round pick is a guy that changed positions in college. They are so desperate to look smarter then anyone else that they keep going for these high risk high reward guys. Everyone on your team doesnt have to be some versatile athletic freak, some guys can just be good solid football players.
 
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WTF is this goblin? I never seen that before.

That's Brownie, mascot of Brownie Bread. In the early days, Coach Brown's wife was known for her delicious pumpkin bread, and it inspired vendors at Municipal Stadium to sell Brownie Bread for a nickel with a beer. Fans would dip the orangish-green bread in the beer and throw it on the field when we played the Steelers, turning their helmets into a baby puke green like color. They were such babies about it, they made towels to bring to Cleveland clean off their shitty helmets. That's how they earned the nickname the Squealers and the origin of the "Terrible Towel".
 
Woke up this morning, and I gotta say...I'm actually pretty happy about the Jets picking Calvin Pryor.

He is going to FUCK people up at S. Seems he's pretty fast and very intelligent too...maybe he can be that signal caller that Rex loves in the defensive backfield, and maybe his presence helps Milliner develop more quickly in this system as well (ala having Earl Thomas back there helps Sherman and the other DBs in Seattle). Wasn't a ton of ace safeties in this draft, so to have the choice of the two best at #18 was ideal value.

Plus, Jets can get quality pieces at WR and TE in the 2nd and 3rd round.
 
Now that I'm sober waking up still like the Ebron pick. Go defense today and get another receiver later.
I saw it coming listening to mocks and discussion.

I thought it made sense from a standpoint of they really need to ease off of Calvin.
Stafford was abusing the privilege of having Megatron.
He has been around a while now and to get the most out of him and his huge contract when he is 30+ let him take some plays off and get other guys the ball.
 
At 13, Rams liked Donald, Martin and Mosley, in that order. If all were gone, they would have drafted JFF. Tried to trade up and get him but CLE beat them
 
I saw it coming listening to mocks and discussion.

I thought it made sense from a standpoint of they really need to ease off of Calvin.
Stafford was abusing the privilege of having Megatron.
He has been around a while now and to get the most out of him and his huge contract when he is 30+ let him take some plays off and get other guys the ball.

Yeah the mock drafts are what sold me on him. I agree with the other stuff you say as well.
 
Ewwww, you lost me at Dalton.

Yeah Dalton is the exact QB you dont want. Good numbers in the regular season but then he falls apart in the playoffs. He plays well enough that you have to give him a big contract but he isnt going to ever take you all the way. He is kind of like Stafford if Stafford could win you games in the regular season.
 
Yeah Dalton is the exact QB you dont want. Good numbers in the regular season but then he falls apart in the playoffs. He plays well enough that you have to give him a big contract but he isnt going to ever take you all the way. He is kind of like Stafford if Stafford could win you games in the regular season.

So stafford is a poor mans dalton
 
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Cleveland (13.0) led all markets for ESPN's Rd 1 #NFLDraft coverage, followed by HOU 11.6, Austin 11.3, Greenville, SC 10.8, NOLA 10.8.
 
Reid said KC was going to draft him had CLE not done so. But I guess Rex and Idzik have a better QB track record

I just don't even know why they interview Idzik at this point. he never has anything to say on anything. Even his own draft picks he has nothing to say.
 
I just don't even know why they interview Idzik at this point. he never has anything to say on anything. Even his own draft picks he has nothing to say.

He's in a tough spot. Can't really pull the plug on Geno after one year, and signing Vick. I just can't get over all the defensive players in the first round, year after year
 
He's in a tough spot. Can't really pull the plug on Geno after one year, and signing Vick. I just can't get over all the defensive players in the first round, year after year

He could talk about how he like his first round pick this year. All he has really said is that he stuck to his plan and that he will continue to stick to his plan and that his plan is his plan.
 
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