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League of Legends Championship Series: Season 4
- Thread starter Edwardo
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Yeah, how typical...
PhillipCostigan
Member
fnatic why do you do this to me
that's two games you've thrown now
that's two games you've thrown now
JustProgress
Member
Man, thought they could have had it before the baron throw
Primethius
Banned
Don't think it was a throw. If they didn't do baron, I think SKT was still winning it. SKT's been playing with their food for a bit now.
Edit: Lol, Impact.
Edit: Lol, Impact.
fnatic were never really ahead, they didn't really play well their picks and skt just had to pull the trigger to win. baron call wasn't bad, really, there was little they could do before game would get out of hand
dat end doe
eh people are so sensitive, skt delivered an entertaining game, i'd rather watch them have fun
dat end doe
PhillipCostigan
Member
well I still expect Fnatic to stomp TPA, and they've shown they can fight even the favourites for the tournament.
Just no more throws pls
also, pretty much all the matches have been really good at AllStars. Been a really good tournament so far.
Just no more throws pls
also, pretty much all the matches have been really good at AllStars. Been a really good tournament so far.
Imperfected
Member
The Zed was actually a pretty good pick vs. Kassadin due to the patch they're playing on (Kassadin has the 0.8 AP ratio magic damage shield still). Though, leaving Kassadin open is generally just not super smart on this patch, so...
PhillipCostigan
Member
I think they were fine leaving it open. I've played the match-up a few times from the Kass perspective and it's probably his worst match-up on the patch, especially if the player is good at Zed (lol) and the Kassadin doesn't take ignite.
oh i'm not saying it was wrong of them, wish people would do crazy shit like that more, just must suck for fnatic in some ways, but eh, they know they're outclassed by skt i imagine
PhillipCostigan
Member
I don't think you could say they were outclassed. It was a really close game and one awkward baron attempt/fight decided it.
Yeah for sure, I have to imagine skt had this planned out strategically so that they could play with the skins and also smash, it wasn't just a "fuck it lets use our skins"
Terbinator
Member
SKT in their skins though.
they shouldn't feel too bad, skt is arguably the best team in the world and they did punish the questionable picks (piglet and pmd got caught a lot this game), while jax and lee sin are pretty contested picks and zed is a good matchup against kass.
if i were fnatic i'd feel a lot worse for losing against c9
Imperfected
Member
The thing I really liked about it is picking three split-pushing duelists was basically challenging Fnatic to play the way Fnatic actually played during Season 3 Worlds (ambush picks and teleport ganks). There's no actual reason to do that - Fnatic's extremely weak at the 5v5 siege style that's basically Korea's bread-and-butter in the current Nidalee vs. Yasuo err' day meta - so not only did they pick into the skin team for style points, they actually picked into a much more entertaining match-up than by all rights we probably should have gotten.
(Unless you find Nidalee poking Fnatic to death entertaining, anyway.)
(Unless you find Nidalee poking Fnatic to death entertaining, anyway.)
Primethius
Banned
SKT is no longer the best team in the world. I'd put atleast Najin White Shield over them. And while this was a good motivation game for Fnatic, I'm sure even they know that SKT were having a bit of fun.
SKT were up gold before that baron and they had jax/vayne for lategame..
They might've made a few good plays in that game but do you really think fnatic could ever take a best of 3 or 5 off of SKT?
I guess this means fnatic vs tpa is actually a pretty big game anyway, hope fnatic win!
Dreams-Visions
Member
Hell no. They'd be lucky to get one, let alone 3.
i think yolostar hovering over the zyra is indicative they do
also skt played without pmd for most of the season, then lost to cj frost while playing on netcafe
people writing skt off after two bad series are crazy
You are not the only one. Pretty obvious response imo.
Imperfected
Member
Yeah, if it were a serious Best of 3 I honestly think SKT would just run Nidalee and probably Ezreal (I would say Jinx, but Piglet's never been much for playing her) and just done the most agonizingly safe, methodical siege-push possible. Not only does xPeke not play Yasuo very well from what I've seen, but just as a team (or even a region as a whole) they really have no answer for that strategy.
I'm glad they're being at least a little bit trolly. I was worried that with the huge slump they're on in Korea their coaches would have them on a short leash.
I'm glad they're being at least a little bit trolly. I was worried that with the huge slump they're on in Korea their coaches would have them on a short leash.
Primethius
Banned
They've had PMD since the games against KTA. They lost that game, then lost against Ozone, then lost to CJ Frost in NLB most recently. Plus, its pretty easy to tell from the way the way they play games that this is not the dominant SKT that once was. Maybe in OGN summer they'll bounce back.
But playing against international teams is no indicator of how good SKT is in Korea (see IEM).
i think mandu came back after the kta games but still, people were raving about kta and they got rekked by blaze, then ozone and they got beat by blue
faker still managed to shit on what people were calling the second best midlaner in the world in a losing matchup, piglet has always been consistent and even in their games against frost ended up on like 11-3
like it's a slump alright but people are way too ready to call this shit
faker still managed to shit on what people were calling the second best midlaner in the world in a losing matchup, piglet has always been consistent and even in their games against frost ended up on like 11-3
like it's a slump alright but people are way too ready to call this shit
Primethius
Banned
No, they brought back PMD back for the KTA games. Thats the time that Casper was benched. I'm not saying their bad. But they are in a slump. And the rest of the teams in Korea have caught up. They're not the dominant SKT that was like guaranteed a win in every game. Najin White Shield, CJ Blaze, Samsung Ozone are all teams right now that would win Bo5's against them.
Maybe they'll be back on top in Summer.
Maybe they'll be back on top in Summer.
PhillipCostigan
Member
C9 are playing well, but this is not the OMG we've seen the rest of the tournament.
They look like they're massively on tilt.
They look like they're massively on tilt.
their weird "lets all just group on one person and pick people" strategy just hasn't worked at all, c9 were ready for it, and the one time they did get the kill c9 took an objective for it
c9 are just outplaying them
PhillipCostigan
Member
they also played the early game really poorly. like they didn't play the 2v1 right and left Balls to farm 1v1 while gogoing got denied 2v1.
They played the lanes poorly and xiyang hasn't used his own lane advantage and has missed most of his shockwaves.
Like I said, C9 are playing well but OMG look like they're on tilt.
Imperfected
Member
LemonNation trying so hard not to smile.
PhillipCostigan
Member
team have to ban out Twitch and Morgana against C9.
Sneaky's really good on Twitch and I think Lemon's shaky on other supports.
Sneaky's really good on Twitch and I think Lemon's shaky on other supports.
they did what they always do but their cheesy support roam crap didn't work because c9 were ready for it imo
Imperfected
Member
i feel like morgana counters the entire chinese strategy
It's funny, because the support Morgana has generally underperformed in North America due to being actually somewhat easy to counter in a lot of match-ups (including Leona), and having a somewhat higher mechanical dependency than most other supports. Basically, most other supports can outplay a Morgana player with raw mechanics.
You'd honestly think that would be the one thing OMG wouldn't have problems with. It's not like Morgana's shutting them down on the macro level, they were just consistently getting out-micro'd by LemonNation, who isn't even known as being the best mechanical support in NA.
Stone Ocean
Member
Sneaky sneaky
yeah it's nice seeing lemon not get carried for a change
i like him a lot than i used during s3 when he wouldn't even ward lol
so basically brackets would be:
bo3 skt vs <winner of fnc vs tpa>
bo3 c9 vs omg
then bo5 skt (come on) vs <winner of c9 vs omg>
?
yeah i think so, c9 vs omg is gonna be good