spindashing
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Yo, Jim Parsons?
She is white as thee fuck by association
She is white as thee fuck by association
Dreamworks 'Home": First ever 3D animated film to feature a black protagonist.
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A) Born and raised in NYC, still living here, still haven't seen a black girl that looks like this. Does that mean that what I'm really trying to say is that the average black girl has "bad hair"? Considering you guys jumped on top of that belief way before I did, it must mean every single person that replied to me with the assumption that it's what I meant is either a racist themselves or hopelessly insecure. Good to know our little progress report is coming along nicely.
B) Obsessively styling it for hours at a salon =/= natural.
C) I'm Portuguese/Dominican. I could just pick one and tell people I'm that, but that wouldn't tell the whole story. If this girl is black and something else, then describing herself as just black is misleading.
D) My personal experience is my experience. Never said it was the definitive experience. The "confirmation" bit of my post was a joke. The wording was there, but so were your hopes of turning this into a meltdown thread.
E) Find those exact words in my post though. Even I missed them, and oh look, I'm the original poster.
F) It wasn't so much my conclusion as much as it was everyone else's.
Black-Wind
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Interesting how they changed up the Tip model ...
The only thing I'm not liking about this movie is Rihanna ... which is gonna be a major part of it.
So i will withhold judgement until I see and hear Tip in a trailer.
The only thing I'm not liking about this movie is Rihanna ... which is gonna be a major part of it.
So i will withhold judgement until I see and hear Tip in a trailer.
akachan ningen
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She has good hair.
Spring-Loaded
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we's gaffers! we likes to ruin shit!
MorisUkunRasik
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brandonh83
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Maybe Nintendo could borrow this character for Mario Kart 8?
Bloodrage responded to this post already but A and B are a bit off. The rest are all personal stuff that he can handle but you're not coming off all that knowledgable either.
This thread is so heavy for having been about a kids film
Rihanna for the lead role? Why? It's simply because her agents and managers probably forced them to give her the role, and her popularity. Otherwise I hate when movies suffer a decline in quality because some singer or celebrity took the role.
9 times out of 10, the professional voice actor is better at the job, even more so than a regular actor. And 9 times out of 10 an actor is better at the job than a singer/celebrity. Oh well, I don't necessarily hate Rihanna, I just think someone else could have gotten the role. What about Gabby Soleil from Boondocks? Or Kyla Pratt who was in the Proud family cartoon. There are a ton of black voice actors who could have used the role and done a better job.
9 times out of 10, the professional voice actor is better at the job, even more so than a regular actor. And 9 times out of 10 an actor is better at the job than a singer/celebrity. Oh well, I don't necessarily hate Rihanna, I just think someone else could have gotten the role. What about Gabby Soleil from Boondocks? Or Kyla Pratt who was in the Proud family cartoon. There are a ton of black voice actors who could have used the role and done a better job.
spindashing
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...LOL
8 out of 10 times you probably wouldn't have realized it was a "celebrity" unless someone told you.
That's exactly my point. They only take those celebrities so they can tell you they have them. With this movie, it'll be less about the movie or the story, and more of the fact it's Rihanna. And those movies suffer for it. Either way, what's done is done.
Black-Wind
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Uhhh, I'm not sure what the argument here is but I just assumed that they're basing her hair on the "natural curls" look that black women are doing with the natural hair movement that's popped up in recent years.
This girl has a how youtube about the stuff she does with her natural hair that's not relaxed or some shit.
This argument about HAIR is kinda fucking silly. These are cartoon characters ... no woman just wakes up with prefect Elsa hair. You pick a look that works for the character that your tech can do and you go with it.
Femmeworth
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Good news, hopefully it will actually be a good film.
Extra Sauce
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Are you saying black people are animals?
She helps kids.
It'll be a struggle but I think she might be able to help you too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-fRzSfbigI
dat mixed hair
You only date black women yet you don't get the stigma of "good hair" haunting black women? Now we know you're full of shit.
Black-Wind
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Uhhhhh, this is a movie based on a book. If the girl in the book or the story in the book doesn't make it a point to say she's w/e mix then IDK wut you're getting at.
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Angelus Errare
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If she's Afro-Dominican then she's black since last time I checked Dominican isn't a race.
Not that it matters anyway, DR has racial identity issues out the ass. And let's face it many Dominicans wouldn't even claim her (which has a huge bearing on how one identifies themselves).
I state this as an Afro-Dominican who describes themselves as just black...because I am. Now ask me about my nationality and I'll give you an awesome love story that takes place across different countries.
And I thought that American Idol dude looked like Sideshow Bob.what race is this man
Bruh. Just stop.
Byakuya769
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Long ass way to admit you're ignorant. But ok.
Damn, you define people's races AND you define how much time you can put into your hair before it's no longer natural? What aren't you an expert in, oh great sage?
Misleading? Are we selling a product? People identify how they want to identify all the time. Ignoring your stupid statement on hair, who are you to tell anyone how to identify or an author how to have their character self identify.
Shit, since I'm a product of the Diaspora with family from Tennessee and Florida I need to identify as... West African (only a guess), Scottish, Anglo, Iroquois, Seminole, and Cherokee. Got to tell that complete story, or I might get hit with a products liability suit for misrepresentation from you.
You sounded pretty confident when you said this:
... definitively stupid thing to say.
I mean, I guess you got one thing right. But when you make asinine, uniformed comments and double down with "lol, I only date black chicks, tho." People can make reasonable assumptions.
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Rabid-Coot
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Discotheque
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yeah rihanna as the lead confirms i aint watching this shit.
Vermillion
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...I wonder how Rihanna will sound voicing a kid.
Angelus Errare
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Interesting that the first "black" protagonist in a 3D animated film needed to have a lighter skin complexion, brown curly hair, and green eyes.
I was hoping for a female black protagonist looking more like this;
Go away forever bruh.
Interesting that the first "black" protagonist in a 3D animated film needed to have a lighter skin complexion, brown curly hair, and green eyes.
I was hoping for a female black protagonist looking more like this;
You do know that there are black people in africa with complexions that are light and dark. Are you people seriously this dense and ignorant?
Of course I get it but don't agree with it. Hair is just hair to me, even if you are trying to expose me. My posts are like the bible. Very open to interpretation.
Doesn't matter if it's based on a book and that in the book she's black. This thread has is about what she looks like in the film. She looks like a white person's rendition of what a black kid should look like. No fro, light eyes. Basically white.
Good response but last time I checked, "just black" people don't speak Spanish natively. I get what you're saying about race vs nationality but when you're mixed like that, it's not so black and white. You're black/latino or afro-latino, whichever you prefer.
Lol take a deep breath, Byakuya769.
Vermillion
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1) Whoa, there. That's kind of ignorant.
2) Black and white are pretty broad terms, you know. They're not precise nationalities, like African-American.
Necromanti
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How are you defining "black" in this sense? There is no group that precludes one from speaking any language natively.
You say that a white person's rendition of a black person is a kid with no afro and basically white. Two things, I would argue that white people's rendition of a black kid would have either an afro or braids. Mostly people who have a very prejudice view of black people believe that they can't have no fro or light eyes. Black people are extremely diverse and you are trying to typecast them as only extremely dark and having only afros. It's very prejudice and very wrong.
With brown curly hair and green eyes?
If you have some photos of these people, please link them. I would very much like to see them, and where in Africa they are from.
Byakuya769
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Wow.
Wow what? I'm asking an honest question.
MorisUkunRasik
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How old are you?
There are people with blue eyes in africa. What are you trying to prove?
Charles Foster Kane
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Good news, hopefully it will actually be a good film.
lol
Interesting that the first "black" protagonist in a 3D animated film needed to have a lighter skin complexion, brown curly hair, and green eyes.
I was hoping for a female black protagonist looking more like this;
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Yes, and its extremely rare in Africans to have blue eyes without Caucasian inter-mixture. Without that, a mutation, ocular albinism, or Waardenburg syndrome is the culprit.
However, you told me that there are people in Africa with light skin, brown curly hair, and green eyes. Just like that protagonist in the OP image. I would like you to show me these people, and where they're from. I'm interested in seeing them.
You called me dense and ignorant for suggesting that Lupita had the common black sub-saharan African phenotype. I would like you to prove it.
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