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New PS4 and PS3 Models Revealed by Certification Request Filed by Sony
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Imperfected
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If they're moving to a smaller process chipset then there should be some marginal improvements on those two things, yes. That should result in slightly improved reliability of the hardware and extend its lifespan, though that's hard to say for certain when all variables are taken into account.
Of course, it could just also mean that Sony's found a way to bring down the cost of components or had to switch one internal component for another functionally identical one for unrelated reasons. (There was some talk that the eDRAM Nintendo uses in the Wii-U would cease to be manufactured, as an example, which would require a new model version if they were to replace it with a different component, even if it performed the same task.)
zomgbbqftw
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As for PS3, I would like to see a Cell+RSX MCM with stacked RAM and 64GB flash. No HDD. That would cut around $70 from the current BoM (~$210 to ~$140) once there I don't see how Sony will make the PS3 any cheaper other than possible a couple of respins of current silicon to drive up yields, but those are $10-15 savings at best. Still, it would make a non-HDD SKU viable in terms of storage space and it would be positive for margins.
KennyLinder
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I wonder if they could get it down to the size of a Wii? (with external PSU like the Wii). If the CELL is getting reduced, they'd not need such a big PSU or fan. That sort of size would be ace, but probably unlikely.
jacksepticeye
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I guess so. Just didn't see PS3 getting more attention
shouamabane
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I'd be into a 1TB PS3 model without an optical drive.
BruiserBear
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As silly as it sounds, even to me, I'm already excited by the prospects of a slim PS4 a couple years down the road. It's so small already, I'm curious to see how much smaller it will get.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
It's obvious, to be honest...
... it's the stacked GDDR5 that comes un-stacked. Firmware update 1.80 for current owners. Sony just realised now that it needs to present what #greatnessawaits really means.
16 GB of GDDR5.
... it's the stacked GDDR5 that comes un-stacked. Firmware update 1.80 for current owners. Sony just realised now that it needs to present what #greatnessawaits really means.
16 GB of GDDR5.
It is also revealed to have stacked SSHD, processor and controllers.
BrainZEROX
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Shrinking Cell and RSX makes a lot of sense for Playstation Now and its power consumption bills. Why not put them in a new PS3 as well?
jeff_rigby
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There are several possibles for PS4 as it's likely being made at Global Foundries not TSMC. AMD Investor Conference confirmed Game console chips were being made at Global Foundries.
1) Revision to use 8Gb GDDR5
2) FD-SOI (Global Foundries only at this time)
3) 20nm and HBM to replace GDDR5 (Global Foundries only at this time).
Or any combination of the above with # 3 highly unlikely this year.
FunkyPajamas
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Stability improvements? Wobble be gone!
mangochutney
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Integrated Vita in the PS4.
It is the only way to boost Vita sales!
It is the only way to boost Vita sales!
Getting it Wii U-sized would be great, even with a power brick. I can't see myself buying another hardware iteration anytime soon, but the PS3 was easily my favorite console of all-time. It deserves a cooler send-off than the Super Slim.
Also, what're people going to call it? The Super Duper Slim?
TenaciousNorth
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As someone who's PS3 died late last year I would snap up a new cheaper model.
I just want to dunk that thing in milk and take a huge bite.
I want to dunk it in Cerny's tub.
what if they did that but without the 64GB flash? So sticking with something like 12-16GB with a HDD bay?
KennyLinder
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Metallix87
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Maybe a change to reduce price on the PS4 and undercut Xbone?
BurnOutBrighter
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Twist: It's a combined PS3 and PS4.
Backwards compatibility the old school way.
Backwards compatibility the old school way.
jeff_rigby
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You don't think it's too early for Interposer connecting 22nm Cell and RSX to one of the AMD-Hynix wafers in a HBM stack giving 1GB of custom unified memory using the Sony patent?
I'll add that they might replace FlexIO with PCIe and they could use the same Southbridge the PS4 uses as it's cheaper.
This would be my guess, perhaps in time for xmas to cut Sony costs to allow for a bundled game.
Ha, if this new revision allows them to bundle a game in with the hardware and announce that at E3 that would be a big shot at Microsoft.
ArchedThunder
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The Leaning Tower of PiSa4!
pickle tooth
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I'd bite on a gray ps4. Homage to the ps1, the best playstation made. Get rid of the slants too.
My guess is this.
Maybe Sony might reduce the 500gb PS4 to $379 and introduce a 1tb or 750gb PS4 at the old $399 price.
Weren't there only like two revisions for the PS1?
$479 - Camera + PS4 + PSVita.
Or $399 - PSVita + PS4.
It would be sell like water in a desert #thirstisreal
ResidentDante
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GribbleGrunger
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Lagspike_exe
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What's the point? Demand is outstripping supply even without Sony's AAA games aside from a few. They can ride this wave until Fall 2015 at current pricing if they start releasing their top games throughout next year.
Memorabilia
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I hope they re-design the case. The super-slim is super fugly.
Not necessarily.
PS3 2000 and 3000 (both Slim) have essentially the same external form factor.
zomgbbqftw
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Yeah, I don't see any possibility of price cuts to the PS4. With Sony's financial position being as it is, they will take the margin this holiday and cut to $299 next year if necessary. Right now Sony need to look at their bottom line, if they have a way to increase margins on a popular product then the prudent course would be to reap the gain rather than pass the savings on, at least immediately. The competition is weak enough for Sony to sit at $399 for another 16-18 months.
They do it to cut manufacturing costs on a frequenting time frame. It's also an opportunity to remarket the consoles for late late adopters and tertiary regions.