New PS4 and PS3 Models Revealed by Certification Request Filed by Sony

so this isn't gonna be a major redesign. is it just internals changed about to maybe improve efficiency and bring the price of manufacturing down?

i don't think we'll see a redesigned (slim) model for another year or so.
 
This is interesting, I'm always very curious to see how the new models will look even if I can't upgrade for budget reasons.

However I would be very tempted to get a PS3 with a more affordable price to be just my PS+ machine since I have a decent backlog in my digital library.

All PS3 models use standard laptop hard-drives, just swap in a bigger one, it'd be cheaper.
 
"OS low power thing...?" Please have actual knowledge on the subject please..

Its 2GiB, which is 256MB, not 2GB
If you're correcting someone please do it correctly ;) 2GiB is not 256MB, 2Gb however is.

2GiB is 2147MB, 2GB is 2000MB and 2Gb is 256MB. Confusing as fuck, I know, but you can thank the storage manufacturers for that because they want a bigger number on the box for less.
1KiB = 1024 bytes, 1KB = 1000 bytes and 1Kb = 125 bytes.
 
I could see a new PS4 with an updated chipset that is cheaper to manufacture, allowing Sony to drop the price in the very near future.


The end user won't notice a difference in performance or look of the system, just in the price of it.
 
I was so near buying a Super Slim for my probably soon to die phat 80Gb.

Will wait for this, now. Please don't look like shit like the Super Slim.
 
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So apparently Pocketnews has a new CUH-1100 model PS4 and has compared it to the previous model.

According to Dutch site Tweakers (http://tweakers.net/nieuws/99236/revisie-ps4-heeft-gewijzigde-heatsink.html), the following was changed among other things. I don't understand many technicalities ;)

- Changed heat sink and changed power supply towards the CPU and GPU
- Lower weight (2700g vs 2750g)
- Mainboard was type SAA-001, now SAB-001
- The 8-bit-mcu by STMicroelectronics was removed, perhaps now obsolete by the Marvell CXD90025G-asic sub processor (speculated by Tweakers, don't know)
- Memory changed from ddr3-1600 to ddr3l-1833 (lower power usage) (for the Marvell CXD90025G-asic sub processor, not main memory)
- AMD APU changed from CXD90026G to CXD90026AG

Yep it's the first internal revision to cut costs although this year Sony has kept the margin for themselves.
Still much of the costs revolve around the APU and the number of GDDR5 memory chips.
If they can shrink the APU to 20-22nm and cut the number of chips from 16 to 8, the PS4 will become VERY cheap to manufacture. Surely they have their internal roadmap for these things. I guess that 2015's revision will be more substantial and will allow for the first price drop.

About PS3...they definetly need to hit the 150$ price point with 32-64GB flash capacity if they want to keep sales of product rmeaningful next year and going on. There were rumors about a 22nm Cell...I don't know what they're doing on the matter or if they intend to follow a path similar to the PS2 integrating Cell and RSX on the same die.
 
If i can recall, Eurogamer said that Nvidia being tyrannical with the RSX not allowing them to switch to a lower process was why they went with AMD, of course getting screwed in the first place with a weaker GPU because of Nvidia's BS on the PS3 should have made it clear Nvidia wasn't going to play nice, same with the original Xbox and the debacle MS went through.

In combination with the fact that investing in CELL any longer probably isn't going to yield many returns going forward, i don't think Sony are in a viable position to get the PS3 any smaller without sacrificing everything but the hardware components.

If you're correcting someone please do it correctly ;) 2GiB is not 256MB, 2Gb however is.

2GiB is 2147MB, 2GB is 2000MB and 2Gb is 256MB. Confusing as fuck, I know, but you can thank the storage manufacturers for that because they want a bigger number on the box for less.
1KiB = 1024 bytes, 1KB = 1000 bytes and 1Kb = 125 bytes.

Yes, i'm stupid. Thank you for correcting me on the subject.
 
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