Seven Dead, Several Hospitalized in Isla Vista Mass Shooting

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Deified Data said:
I don't think so. The world only reacts one way to entitled pricks, and 99.9% of them never kill anyone over it. He chose to interact with the world in such a way that such responses were inevitable. Really, it's beneficial for people to get knocked off their high horse - hard. This guy was an anomaly.
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If you think anyone gets helped by comments generally made on forums like BB misc, even in some threads here, you're really mistaken. Especially when they are struggling with themselves emotionally.
 
Oh my god. I never would have believed those were real due to the extent to which phrases like "the supreme gentleman" play into internet memes and stereotypes, but the tragedy itself is proof enough now. I wonder whether he evolved those particular phrasings of his thoughts of his own accord or internalized them from internet humor and mockery.
 
MormaPope said:
What? No, not at all. Doing that you're accepting that there is a problem. Thinking that applying some sort of label pushes the problem away is asinine. People have undiagnosed mental illness due to whatever reasons? Help that person with mental illness. You can't prevent bullying with medication and therapy, you can however treat the terrible affects of bullying with therapy and maybe medication.
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Scenario: A kid gets bullied and shoots up his school. Do you think it's more helpful for the reporter to say that he had a mental illness or that he was bullied everyday for several months which caused him to have a mental breakdown? Blanket statements such as "mental illness" don't help anyone. It just allows society to sweep the problem under the rug. Once you attach the mental illness label, people don't care anymore. THEY'D never do such a thing because they don't have a mental illness. The reason that people got killed was because the shooter was crazy, not because of reasons that could have been prevented. The concept of having a mental illness is so stigmatized that people will refuse to get treated because they don't want the label. That's dangerous. In addition, at what point does someone have a mental illness? There was a poster that I replied to earlier that said he almost felt what this guy felt. However, he chose a different (and better) path. Does that person now automatically not have a mental illness because he didn't massacre innocent people? Or did he have a mental illness up until the point where he decided it wasn't the world's fault? Or does he still have a mental illness? Does the question really even matter? Should we not help those in need even if they don't have a mental illness? Or does everyone who needs help have a mental illness? IMO the label is largely irrelevant from a societal standpoint and only serves to help people easily make sense of a complicated world.
 
Some of those Youtube comments are fucked up.

EdgyFuckwad2 hours ago

Elliot Rodger was a fairly attractive man. Too bad he doesn't know magic because then he could have easily got a woman or topped Breivik's highscore. I wish he killed more...
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Kid said he initially pulled down the videos because family/friends were concerned. If they had knowledge of those videos I don't understand why he was still out on the streets. This kid needed help... like institutionalized.
 
He probably came off as a creeper/stalkerish type to whatever girls he spoke too, that is if he even had the guts to talk to any.

Such a shame all around. Rip to the victims.
 
It sounds like he's trying way to hard in those videos to be evil and intelligent. Forced laughs an all.

I hope they catch the second guy.
 
Jeez that video.This is what total madness sounds like. Those fake laughs and goofy one liners. The guy was lost in his own little fantasy world.
 
Deified Data said:
Is this a comment lamenting the fact that he wasn't a wizard?
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Looking into that guy's profile more.

Yes.

EdgyFuckwad4 months ago

So do you even believe in magic? I do. I practice it. I'm not sure if you do.
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EdgyFuckwad1 month ago

I found a way to give myself up to demonic possession. It's as good as dying. My vessel will be a vector of pure hatred and I will escape this world. Enjoy being left behind, mundane filth.
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And 9 people apparently agree....
 
SmokeMaxX said:
Scenario: A kid gets bullied and shoots up his school. Do you think it's more helpful for the reporter to say that he had a mental illness or that he was bullied everyday for several months which caused him to have a mental breakdown? Blanket statements such as "mental illness" don't help anyone. It just allows society to sweep the problem under the rug. Once you attach the mental illness label, people don't care anymore. THEY'D never do such a thing because they don't have a mental illness. The reason that people got killed was because the shooter was crazy, not because of reasons that could have been prevented. The concept of having a mental illness is so stigmatized that people will refuse to get treated because they don't want the label. That's dangerous. In addition, at what point does someone have a mental illness? There was a poster that I replied to earlier that said he almost felt what this guy felt. However, he chose a different (and better) path. Does that person now automatically not have a mental illness because he didn't massacre innocent people? Or did he have a mental illness up until the point where he decided it wasn't the world's fault? Or does he still have a mental illness? Does the question really even matter? Should we not help those in need even if they don't have a mental illness? Or does everyone who needs help have a mental illness? IMO the label is largely irrelevant from a societal standpoint and only serves to help people easily make sense of a complicated world.
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I'm just going to agree to disagree on this issue. What you want is the exact same thing I want except the thing that gets exposure is different. Society is generally shitty when it comes to mental illness and kicking people around. What I want is for people to be okay with admitting that they might be mentally ill, to not give a fuck about the stigma and to get help.

Violent fantasies of any sort aren't necessarily a sign of mental illness. Craving to act on those fantasies and fighting your own will not to act on those fantasies is mental illness.
 
Shit like this is why prostitution is so important to society, you just know his dick was dry when he did this shit.
 
Munin said:
Why would they do that? Aren't his posts basically a great opportunity to help police / psychologists / family / whatever figure out where everything went wrong with the guy?
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If they are deleting everything and not just taking it offline they're going to get hit with obstruction of justice. In any case they're going to get subpoenaed big time.
 
luxarific said:
If they are deleting everything and not just taking it offline they're going to get hit with obstruction of justice. In any case they're going to get subpoenaed big time.
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I was wondering what'd happen once the authorities find out they've deleted content.

RIP to the victims.
 
tehbible said:
Another thread. Can't seem to get cache of the entire thread though, just the first page
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tehbible said:
The BB mods are going overdrive deleting everything related to the event right now. Hard to link the posts. I just updated OP with an example thread.
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Just saw this linked from another thread and thought I'd share a tip on browsing cached links. For anyone interested in reading the thread fully cached install this userscript. It allows one to navigate entirely within Google Cache results (the tilde key ~ toggles between cached/non-cached links).

Alternatively here's page 8 of the thread, the last number in the URL can be changed to access the previous pages.
 
I'm just mystified that if the family knew something was going on nothing was apparently done. He clearly had more problems than being murderous narcissist and I doubt he made much of an effort to fly under the radar.
 
More pieces to the puzzle.

Originally Posted by ElliotRodger View Post
This forum is full of rotten bullies. I thought there was a whole "FA" community here who would sympathize.

So many horrible people who insult my height and call me names like "phaggot". You remind me of the people who bullied me in 9th grade, forcing me to be homeschooled for the rest of high school.
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Munin said:
Why would they do that? Aren't his posts basically a great opportunity to help police / psychologists / family / whatever figure out where everything went wrong with the guy?
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Probably because he was treated like garbage on the forums and they're trying to save face.
 
whats up with semi famous peoples kids shooting up iv this is the second time its happened

edit: well i guess the first time wasnt a shooting but the dude ran people over and claimed himself to be death so thats close enough
 
19 & 21 said:
I'm just mystified that if the family knew something was going on nothing was apparently done. He clearly had more problems than being murderous narcissist and I doubt he made much of an effort to fly under the radar.
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Well if the family doesn't get blamed guns obviously will be. I'm just in shock that a rich white kid couldn't get enough motivation to buy a few hookers and blow so he shoots people instead.
 
What a piece of shit. It sucks so much that innocent people have to die because of his fucked up mind. The only good thing about this is that he's also dead and can't hurt anyone else.
 
Rygar 8 Bit said:
whats up with semi famous peoples kids shooting up iv this is the second time its happened

edit: well i guess the first time wasnt a shooting but the dude ran people over and claimed himself to be death so thats close enough
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I'd wager family stability is a common price to pay for a lot of Hollywood families. I think Chappelle said it best once upon a time.
 
Caesnd said:
He might have had people to confide in. People that looked out for him and genuinely wanted to help him. Even so, it wouldn't matter. These things are about as natural as whirlwind or the change of seasons. It's one aspect of emotion just as much as any other. The hatred, and your contrasting viewpoint, just as well.
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Seems to me he grew up spoiled and received no proper love or attention from his parents. His dad is a hollywood director and stepmom is a Morrocan ex-model. Introvert and narcissistic personality is what makes this truly challenging. He had been planning this since a long time (there's posts he made up to a year ago where he talks about killing people).
 
Eighty Deuce said:
Well if the family doesn't get blamed guns obviously will be. I'm just in shock that a rich white kid couldn't get enough motivation to buy a few hookers and blow so he shoots people instead.
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You are suggesting that a person can work through his emotional problems and need for real human contact via just buying a prostitute, as in "guy just needed to score some pussy" is somehow a valid statement and a way to stop these shootings from happening?

I doubt it but then again I might be wrong. Just said in a previous post that I need to stop posting in these threads, it only gives negative vibes to even read news related to mass shootings. /eject
 
Eighty Deuce said:
Well if the family doesn't get blamed guns obviously will be. I'm just in shock that a rich white kid couldn't get enough motivation to buy a few hookers and blow so he shoots people instead.
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This wasn't about anything he said it was about. If it was there would be infinitely more men out there doing exactly what he did. He needed help that he clearly didn't get, and who knows how far back he started needing it.
 
watching his Vid I was like in my late 20's when I lost my virginity and like 20 when I kissed a girl, did I turn into a maniac killer? no fuck that!.

why did he do that?!? wtf??

RIP to all his victims, I cannot get my head round why someone from such a well off family would do that, did he think he was entitled to a female or something?

I err I have no more words...
 
Zoggy said:
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Ok that made me laugh.
 
I'm wondering how big of a part the second guy had in all this. Did he encourage this guy to go ahead with his plan, did he help get him the gun and why wasn't he in the vehicle when everything was over?
 
One of the videos shows him, a rich kid inside a BMW in a beautiful beach watching a happy couple and saying "THIS IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS WORLD"

I can only imagine how the parents raised this kid
 
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