Well damn.
Is that real? Because I have never read a most misogynistic piece ever in my life.
Seven Dead, Several Hospitalized in Isla Vista Mass Shooting
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Is that real? Because I have never read a most misogynistic piece ever in my life.
Like I said, wait til you get to work or Facebook and some dumbutt spouts off in the *wrong* direction about this.
Gentleman Jack
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It's in the last two pages of his manifesto. The guy had ceased to view anybody but himself as a human being.
you should read all the other shit he wrote.
Fury Sense
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appreciate the title change
What if you just lurk at a mcdonalds with free wifi haha.
ajim
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I was told by my mum. Not a big deal. Sometimes its planned, sometimes its not. That's life.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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That big post that HolyBaikal made early on in the thread is really starting to ring true.
Why can't these gorgeous Blackfoot Indian women with flowing black hair realize that my pottery is superior to all these native douche bags?
Have they not seen my clay?
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I use the same kiln as Le Creuset.
His walking on sunshine video is so damn eerie after reading the manifesto. Because you know what's really going through his head, what he's thinking about, his planning and scheming. The fact that he left such a visible footprint before this mass shooting is interesting, the mass shooting is fucking tragic, absolutely terrible, but with this material left behind we're given some perspective.
Hundreds of people on Reddit were laughing at him last week. Now there's the idea that "we should have done something." On Tumblr, there's a post being spread about how he is proof that the Men's Rights Movement endorses the murder of women.
Bring me up to speed. He was a redditor that posted something dumb and then went on a rampage or what?
He was really banking on winning the lottery. Seriously.
shanshan310
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After the massacre at the primary school I gave up on ever thinking the US could change their gun laws. If that wasn't enough to change thinking nothing ever will be
BurnOutBrighter
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I made it to the epilogue and he goes fully batshit evil dictator insane.
DoktorEvil
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This war of attritions between MRA and Feminists is really going to bring itself to a boiling point.
I'm guessing this incident will only add fuel to that fire.
makes the internet scarier
Arozay
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Devolution
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Really sad that the parents didn't take action after finding the video
They did.
They alerted the authorities.
All the eighties music in his videos give an obvious American Psycho vibe. I wonder if it was intentional.
And his mother marrying a rich Hollywood guy.
And his mother marrying a rich Hollywood guy.
DoktorEvil
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He was really banking on the lottery to make him happy? Wasn't he already coming from wealth?!
...fuck, this guy was really fucking delusional.
How does one even get to this point?
lazorexplosion
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Some smaller subreddit saw and mocked some of his narcissistic youtube videos a few days ago. There's no evidence in his final writings that he even saw the reddit posting though and his "day of retribution" plans had been written out long before any internet attention.
Typical of people who think western media depictions of life are normal and expected. If they don't have the happy perfect life depicted in advertising they feel like a failure. If they externalise you get this shit.
Maybe it's because of years and years of sarcasm and irony on the internet but sadly I don't think I will ever take something like this seriously unless it personally impacts me somehow.
That last paragraph. Crying and throwing a tantrum because you didn't win the lotto is stupid enough but "thrashing at my bed with my wooden practice sword" and "slashing at the air with my pocket knife" sounds beyond parody.
I wonder what might of happened in some sort of alternate timeline where he won the lottery. Would it have made him happy like he thought it would? He was pretty much banking on girls throwing themselves at him when he got rich. Any kind of girl that wants you for your wealth isn't worth dating. He probably would have still ended up sad. Could be an even worse timeline. The lottery wealth could have helped him get access to better weapons.
Arozay
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lazorexplosion
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He has absolutely nothing to do with 'pick up artists'. His writings show he never even attempted to approach women in any sort of serious way, he just expected them to throw themselves at him because he was in his view perfect (or rather was a narcissistic psychopath). They may be chauvinists, but they're even less involved in this than video games.
BocoDragon
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Seems irrelevant to me. Do children need to believe they were strategically planned to be brought into this world?
I'm pretty sure I was told at some point that I "just happened" and we had a big laugh over it.
DoktorEvil
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I feel as if those who use sarcasm and irony as humor devices are not too apt in knowing exactly how to use them to begin with, myself included.
I can also see the forums and communities where this stuff goes unchecked to be a lot stricter afterwards, or at least I hope so.
Considering the odds of winning the lottery are slim, he was doing nothing more but wasting money which could've been put to much better use.
He was banking on more material wealth to keep him happy and check off another thing on his mental checklist.
Uchigatana
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After skimming through the manifesto, hanging around with positive people would've made a huge difference. I can understand his resentment due to his inferiority complex. There were excerpts stating his individual strengths and outright rejected it because he claimed there are more people who are more skillful than he is. I was extremely disheartened as I read through the manifesto because he never got out his resentment, and never took the time to appreciate the people who were willing to raise his self-esteem.
Yeah...
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Well, I think my problem is that while reading lines about his wooden practice sword and "swinging around crutches as if they were swords," I can't help picture anything but this:
so even though this is a REAL situation where people were murdered, the image I get while reading is such a joke stereotype which has been made fun of so much that it's hard to view it as reality.
This is the camp I'm in. It's really hard for me to believe anyone is this insolent.
Unless it's some kind of autism spectrum disorder?
This reads like someone satirizing fedoras but no, it's real. It's all fucking real.Another early incident. Guess he never got over Middle school.
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As expected, 4chan isn't condoning this kind of behavior (at least from what I've read most of today on /b/). There were many, many comments about how "beta" he is.
As a side comment, I feel like there's little room to blame "video games" for this type of incident, as multiple media outlets usually do. He references WoW a lot, but he constantly says he used it as an escape - is that considered positive? Or is the media going to find a way to turn this into a "video games cause violence" situation?
No.
Most pregnancies just happen in a manner of speaking, but his parents went into specific detail about how the contraception failed, how could that be of benefit to anyone besides weighing on them in their darkest hour.
I don't deny having sex doesn't help the body. But I am talking in relation to how he ended up conceptualizing it. What if he really twisted having sex to be such a profound experience that the real thing seemed hollow? It would perhaps do very little for him. He focused on vocations with the endgame literally being losing his virginity for starters, so you have evidence he put it up there as a holy grail, as we typically propose to young teenagers. But he only kept it propped up, and perhaps held higher than most people would ever hold it. Except maybe the banned guy who thought oral sex would make the world a better place.
The problem here is not what relationships or sex could actually offer him, but he took the concepts of what they were to such an extreme that the real thing would not satiate his desire. Like a man who continues to accumulate money, constantly feeling he never has enough. You could give him enough that any reasonable man may have and he's still feel poor as fuck. Ideas can be enlightening and absolutely dangerous, and the latter happens when ideas, concepts, thoughts of what ought to be and what must be are taken way too seriously. Reading more of his manifesto, there's little bits of practically every social norm that one "must" have somewhere in there; besides relationships, he talks about the need for fame and the need for fortune, and that last one is the biggest offender for most people's suffering in life. He also spoke about how he was "above" people and particular things, bringing the social concept of superiority into the fray, which also played a role in his deranged thinking.
Perhaps he really had development issues, confusing ideas and stereotypes for objective reality. Most people have some level to see the illusion of much of that, but he seemed absolutely incapable of seeing any of it. The falsehoods he saw were his delusions, particularly about women.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Who was this Gavin jackass who kept telling him girls want guys who are tall and muscular etc. Way to compound the issue and fuel the fire guy.
That really is all that needs to be said. It's just scary how many people are probably just as unhinged or more.
Speaking of, I'm gonna go play some BF4 on PC.
Mind numbing shooty-bangs are in order.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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The Misogyny aspect is so strong here I don't think it would be necessary to use gaming as a scapegoat. The again, the news does have a way of disappointing me in cases like this.
Mattakuevan
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After the shit he posted in his manifesto, I am not sure I'll ever be able to see stuff like this...
...as trolling ever again.
This is absolutely horrific.
I mean I think we all knew that from the beginning but the lottery thing really brought it home for me. There was no reaching this guy, he was in his own world. It will take a whole team of psychiatrists to evaluate him and truly figure out what exactly he was suffering from. As our understanding of the brain and mental disorders continues to evolve we will get a better handle on guys like this. We really need to invest more in research.
This is motherfucking cartoon villainy.
It's almost like the male version (or just general version) of women destroying themselves reaching for the false body images portrayed in magazines.
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