Gamespot rumor: Big third-party Xbox One exclusive at E3

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I can't imagine it being something as significant as Mass Effect. What IS possible
as potential exclusives:

-Dragon's Dogma 2

-Dino Crisis Reboot

-Platinum Games new IP

Any of these are likely and will probably a timed exclusive(s) of sorts, unless MS is funding the project.
 
Rembrandt said:
Disregarding their current beef with MS, why is it too surprising? L4D1/2 were both only on 360/PC and I really doubt Valve cares about alienating a console.
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Because back then Gabe was staunchly against the PS3, and the PS3 was harder to code for and well behind the 360 in terms of market share.

Since then Valve and Sony mended fences with Portal 2, and now the PS4 is easier to develop for than the Xbone and on its way to a 2:1 worldwide sales ratio. By not making a PS4 version of L4D3 they would cutting their sales of the game on consoles in half.
 
Curufinwe said:
Because back then Gabe was staunchly against the PS3, and the PS3 was harder to code for and well behind the 360 in terms of market share.

Since then Valve and Sony mended fences with Portal 2, and as now the PS4 is easier to develop for than the Xbone, and on its way to a 2:1 worldwide sales ratio.
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But he let the Orange Box go to PS3, even if Valve didn't port it. They could have done the same for L4D, but didn't.

Also I don't think the developing differences are as bad as they were with the 360/PS3, so I doubt that's a problem. I also doubt Valve cares about console market share, at least not to the extent any other publisher/developer does.
 
I really doubt we'll see any console exclusive Star Wars games this gen. There's just too much money to be made from them. MS would have to go all Don Corleone on Disney.
 
MattyG344 said:
I really doubt we'll see any console exclusive Star Wars games this gen. There's just too much money to be made from them. MS would have to go all Don Corleone on Disney.
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The rumor though is that its timed, so PS4 and PC would eventually get it. MS could just try and milk on that 2015 Episode 7 release and release the game at the same time. Especially if it ties into whatever the plot for VII will be.
 
Rembrandt said:
Also I don't think the developing differences are as bad as they were with the 360/PS3, so I doubt that's a problem. I also doubt Valve cares about console market share, at least not to the extent any other publisher/developer does.
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If they are making L4D3 and releasing it on consoles then they want to make as much money as possible from doing that. MS would have to compensate them for the millions of sales they would be forfeiting by ignoring the market leader. Unlike Capcom or Platinum, Valve don't need cash from MS up front to subsidize development.
 
KOTOR III. I'm being serious. The first two were Xbox first and then ported to PC. EA and Microsoft are in bed together.
 
Curufinwe said:
If they are making L4D3 and releasing it on consoles then they want to make as much money as possible from doing that. MS would have to compensate them for the millions of sales they would be forfeiting by ignoring the market leader. Unlike Capcom or Platinum, Valve don't need cash from MS up front to subsidize development.
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Valve isn't a console developer primarily, they could launch L4D3 on Xbox One and make all the money they missed from PS4 on PC. Most devs couldn't do that.
 
rrc1594 said:
yeah MS has 20 I think Sony has 17 I believe
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is this list complete?

United States

343 Industries – Halo series
Connected Experiences – Responsible for cloud service on Xbox, servers and online features
Good Science Studio – Kinect Adventures, Kinect Fun Labs
Kids and Lifestyle Entertainment – Next generation fitness project - Original IP
Leap Experience Pioneers – Unannounced Game - Original IP
Platform Next Studios – Unannounced Game - Original IP
Microsoft Studios – Mobile Gaming – ilomilo
Microsoft Studios – Redmond Publishing – Overseeing multiple projects in conjunction with development studios based in the Americas
Team Dakota – Project Spark
Turn 10 Studios – Forza Motorsport series
Twisted Pixel Games – The Gunstringer, LocoCycle, 'Splosion Man series
Xbox Entertainment Studios – Various interactive television projects
Xbox Live Productions – South Park Let's Go Tower Defense Play!, South Park: Tenorman's Revenge, Avatar Kinect
Europe

Lionhead Studios – Fable series, Black & White series, Unannounced MMO-like New IP
Lift London – Multiple AAA Cloud Based gaming projects (4+)
Microsoft Studios – EMEA Publishing – Overseeing projects in conjunction with development studios based in Europe, Middle East and Asia
Press Play – Max: The Curse of Brotherhood[31]
Rare Ltd. – Banjo-Kazooie series, Viva Piñata, Kameo: Elements of Power, Grabbed by the Ghoulies, Kinect Sports
Soho Productions – Kinect Sesame Street TV, Upload Studios
Canada

BigPark – Joy Ride series, Kinect Sports: Season Two
Black Tusk Studios – Gears of War series

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Studios
 
Rembrandt said:
Eh, will only be excited if MS revived 1313.



Disregarding their current beef with MS, why is it too surprising? L4D1/2 were both only on 360/PC and I really doubt Valve cares about alienating a console.
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IIRC L4D1/2 was exclusive because Valve didn't want to outsource ports after Orange Box subpar PS3 version and didn't had an in-house team to do a PS3 port. That's not an issue at this point.
 
Nafai1123 said:
When did the definition of 1st party change? 1st party has always been a OWNED studio. Published is 2nd party, anything else is 3rd party. If you're going to classify 1st party as ANY game that was published, it completely dissolves the meaning of 1st party....which I suspect is the reason for the attempted change in definition to begin with.

ME1 is first party? LOL

Here's how the classification SHOULD work, since it actual creates distinction which is the whole fucking point of classification to begin with.

1st party: owned studio, owned IP
2nd party: published game, owned IP
3rd party: published or non-published game, don't own IP

Look at that, they actually create some distinct meaning!
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This is the only way that makes sense. It's the definition that has been used for decades. Dead Rising 3 is not first party and I don't see how anyone can argue that it is. How would you differentiate games developed in-house versus developed by a third-party (hint hint) developer? First-first party?
 
Rembrandt said:
Valve isn't a console developer primarily, they could launch L4D3 on Xbox One and make all the money they missed from PS4 on PC. Most devs couldn't do that.
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No they could not just make up all the money they missed from PS4 sales on the PC, they would be missing out on more than a million sales to PS4-only gamers. The only way that would be worth while is if MS cut them a check for around $50 million.

Corto said:
IIRC L4D1/2 was exclusive because Valve didn't want to outsource ports after Orange Box subpar PS3 version and didn't had an in-house team to do a PS3 port. That's not an issue at this point.
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The development and market situation is totally different now than it was in 2008 but some people haven't caught up yet.
 
Corto said:
IIRC L4D1/2 was exclusive because Valve didn't want to outsource ports after Orange Box subpar PS3 version and didn't had an in-house team to do a PS3 port. That's not an issue at this point.
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Eurogamer said:
"We don't have a ton of experience internally building products for other console platforms," Valve's Erik Johnson told Eurogamer in the interview bit of our first hands-on with the game.

"Left 4 Dead 1 was PC and Xbox, so it made a lot of sense to go for Xbox this time," he added.
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So I guess they rectified that with Portal 2, but I still doubt it'll come to PS4. Unless they do a box set with all three games, which is doable, but unlikely, imo.

Curufinwe said:
No they could not just make up all the money they missed from PS4 sales on the PC, they would be missing out on more than a million sales to PS4-only gamers. The only way that would be worth while is if MS cut them a check for around $50 million.
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lmao, what. You're really saying they won't sell enough copies on PC/Xbox One, where it's an established series, to recoup the possible losses they would get by not putting the third game in a series on PS4, even though Portal 2 sold more on PCs than consoles? also lmao @ basically implying MS would have to cut a $50 million check to any developer for an exclusive. Okay.
 
I think this all depends on how long ago this deal was made (if indeed there is one).

If it's recent, the game would need to either be from a smaller or dead franchise, or a new IP. Anything super huge would require far too much moolah to keep off the PS4, which is simply dominating right now. The Fallout rumours make no sense, for instance. Unless...

Unless it's a deal made prior to the reveals where the developer was convinced of Microsoft's vision and were certain that Sony would be late, weaker, or sell slowly due to price. The payoff from Microsoft would have seemed fair in that situation.

I think that's the only way you risk alienating so many fans of your franchise or studio.
 
Rembrandt said:
So I guess they rectified that with Portal 2, but I still doubt it'll come to PS4. Unless they do a box set with all three games, which is doable, but unlikely, imo.

lmao, what. You're really saying they won't sell enough copies on PC/Xbox One, where it's an established series, to recoup the possible losses they would get by not putting the third game in a series on PS4, even though Portal 2 sold more on PCs than consoles? also lmao @ basically implying MS would have to cut a $50 million check to any developer for an exclusive. Okay.
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You doubt it will come to PS4 but yet you still haven't given a single credible reason why you think that. There is absolutely no reason why Valve would need to do a box set with the two old games.

L4D1 and 2 sold 3 million each on 360. Valve would want L4D3 to sell about the same on the new consoles. If they don't release a version for the market leader they will be losing out on 1.5 million sales easily. Given the ease of porting from the PC to the PS4 there's no reason for them not to do that other than Microsoft paying them a huge amount of money.
 
Another possibility could be a wildcard sort of thing like a new IP from Patrice Desilets with EA or another non-ubi giant publishing? A new unproven IP would be easier to get for Microsoft.
 
Are people really guessing Resident Evil and Fallout? Come on. There is no way in hell either company would send an installment from their massive franchises to die as an xbone exclusive.
 
Amir0x said:
Mass Effect 4 being timed exclusive seems to make the most sense, as it is a franchise with a strong association with the Microsoft brand and they have a strong positive relationship with the developer. I wonder if Valve would be willing to make L4D3 exclusive though to MS console again, I heard their relationship has become increasingly problematic because of the issues with XBL restriction.

I'd take Dragon's Dogma 2 so hard if it means it exists :O
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man if it's dragon dogma 2 & phantom dust news combind..not sure what i'd do that is just like really huge for me personally ..wet gamers dream
 
Just guessing... MS needs something big for E3, as well as sth big for One's Japan release... didnt exclusive Resident Evil 7 makes sense then?
 
legacyzero said:
Funny, there are PLENTY of exclusives that would have me buying an Xbone. No Mans Sky, Shenmue, etc.

But perhaps you mean just ONE exclusive.
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A huge amount of people who don't pay attention to the industry (the people they need to buy X1's in order to succeed) don't even know what those games are though. Even if they convinced every single member of Neogaf to buy one with an exclusive like No Man's Sky or Shenmue, it would barely make a dent in terms of lifetime sales. I think he's right, they need big names like Star Wars and CoD, that's all there is to it.

Trust me, I would buy an X1 in a hearbeat if Shenmue or No Man's Sky were exclusive, but I'm not the type of person MS needs to sell in order to get big sales numbers.
 
Curufinwe said:
You doubt it will come to PS4 but yet you still haven't given a single credible reason why you think that. There is absolutely no reason why Valve would need to do a box set with the two old games.

L4D1 and 2 sold 3 million each on 360. Valve would want L4D3 to sell about the same on the new consoles. If they don't release a version for the market leader they will be losing out on 1.5 million sales easily. Given the ease of porting from the PC to the PS4 there's no reason for them not to do that other than Microsoft paying them a huge amount of money.
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Yes, I did. You just keep saying "But they'll miss Sony's money!" I'm saying that Valve isn't mainly a console developer, so I really doubt they care too much about market share because some losses is easily recouped by everything else they have. Releasing a game on one console with less market share wouldn't close them like it would some other developers. If you got the sales data from Wikipedia, like I was going to quote, it said that stat came out in 2012 - 3 years after the second one launched and 4 years after the first. If L4D3 came out this year and you honestly believe they wouldn't sell 3 million by 2017/18, then I don't know what to say. Valve games have always sold better on PC, both Portal 2 and L4D, so once again, I really don't think they care too much about console marketshare, at least not to the extent of a developer that mainly makes console games. They're literally the exact opposite of console game developers whose titles sell more on consoles and less on PC.

I mean, hell, they didn't even release Half-Life 2 on PS2 and that was dominating. If you say it's a tech issue, I will just repeat what you said about them losing all those sales but I guess MS had their checkbook ready.
 
the_champ said:
Just guessing... MS needs something big for E3, as well as sth big for One's Japan release... didnt exclusive Resident Evil 7 makes sense then?
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There are a lot of games that would make sense for MS. The problem is it would make zero sense for most of the game companies. Deals need to make sense for both parties.
 
Rembrandt said:
Yes, I did. You just keep saying "But they'll miss Sony's money!" I'm saying that Valve isn't mainly a console developer, so I really doubt they care too much about market share because some losses is easily recouped by everything else they have. Releasing a game on one console with less market share wouldn't close them like it would some other developers. If you got the sales data from Wikipedia, like I was going to quote, it said that stat came out in 2012 - 3 years after the second one launched and 4 years after the first. If L4D3 came out this year and you honestly believe they wouldn't sell 3 million by 2017/18, then I don't know what to say. Valve games have always sold better on PC, both Portal 2 and L4D, so once again, I really don't think they care too much about console marketshare, at least not to the extent of a developer that mainly makes console games. They're literally the exact opposite of console game developers whose titles sell more on consoles and less on PC.
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You still haven't given a reason why Valve would go to the trouble of making a version for the weaker, harder to develop for, less popular console and not also make a PS4 version.
 
orochi91 said:
I can't imagine it being something as significant as Mass Effect. What IS possible
as potential exclusives:

-Dragon's Dogma 2

-Dino Crisis Reboot

-Platinum Games new IP

Any of these are likely and will probably a timed exclusive(s) of sorts, unless MS is funding the project.
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I wouldnt forgive capcom for not releasing yet again dragons dogma on pc.
 
the_champ said:
Dont worry, money fills that gap easily! :P
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No, it really doesn't.

Edit: MS will need to shell out enough cash for a PS4 install base thats beating them 2-1. Even then the Publisher/Developer risks tarnishing the IP for other platforms if they ever want to continue it.
 
Curufinwe said:
You still haven't given a reason why Valve would go to the trouble of making a version for the weaker, harder to develop for, less popular console and not also make a PS4 version.
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Because they have no need to? It's an established series on PC and Xbox.

If they didn't release Half-Life 2 on PS2 and missed over 130 million sales, regardless of tech, then I don't think they care much about missing 4 million. Something they would easily make on PC. but I'm sure you'll tell me it's a money thing again.
 
the_champ said:
Dont worry, money fills that gap easily! :P
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Maybe sometimes. MS would probably have to to hand over a blank check for any MAJOR title to make it right for the game dev/pub, but then it likely wouldn't make sense for MS anymore. If they are getting a big exclusive, I'm guessing it's another new IP like Titanfall was.
 
Half-Life 3 confirmed.

Real guess: Mortal Kombat X Killer Instinct. Well, a little bit unreal but, man, that would be AWESOME!
 
SDCowboy said:
Maybe sometimes. MS would probably have to to hand over a blank check for any MAJOR title to make it right for the game dev/pub, but then it likely wouldn't make sense for MS anymore. If they are getting a big exclusive, I'm guessing it's another new IP like Titanfall was.
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Maybe a really BIG one, like GTA, wont work... now, for a middle size franchise (in example, Dead Rising, Zone of the Enders, Ryse, etc) exclusivity might make a little bit more sense.
 
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