I can always discover music old and new and it's great.
Today's music is garbage
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I can always discover music old and new and it's great.
Screaming Meat
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What were you listening to?
AHA-Lambda
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This, the 90s fucking sucked.
Agreed in a 00s was the worst decade for music and we are finally moving past it kind of way.
Screaming Meat
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lazorexplosion
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He's not wrong. Popular music is a wasteland now.
I honestly don't think it's possible to make an argument that The Beatles were better lyricists than Kanye West.
And Led Zeppelin sucks.
Vicetrailia
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It was great if you like Hip Hop music.
Screaming Meat
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Touche, sir.
Alright, I see that (although, some might argue it RUINED WESTERN MUSIC FOREVAZ) and raise you... hmmm...
John Cage
Aaron-Lagann
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I remember my phase of caring about music. It was a fun time, I was about 16, though, and it only lasted a year. I think listening to a classic rock and then an 80's pop station made me realize music has always been complete shit.
Music is just like Adam Sandler comedies, there were good bits, but people always forget the bad parts and just say they're the pinnacles of comedy.
Music is just like Adam Sandler comedies, there were good bits, but people always forget the bad parts and just say they're the pinnacles of comedy.
beato_angelico
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get out.
Screaming Meat
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equippedwithtowel
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ummmm... no, it's still good for both.
Whatever that was on the Top 40? All those boyband crap and Spice Girls and whathaveyounot. These days, the stuff kids get are so much better. The songs tend to be a bit more complex and more fun to listen to at the same time.
And I an saying this as someone who listens to a lot of metal and prog rock.
TheChuggernaut
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I can get behind this. The top 40 now is a hell of a lot better then the top 40 in the 90s (I don't know if I would call it good though)
I will say this about current music. It's a hell of a good time to be a hip hop fan.
Screaming Meat
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Not a Nirvana fan? What about Massive Attack and Radiohead? They were all in the top 40 at some point in the 90s, all phenomenal bands. Christ, Mansun had a number one album and they are pretty freaky. I think you may be being quite selective.
TheChuggernaut
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Radiohead was barely in the top 40, and I'm pretty sure Massive Attack was never in the top 40. Nirvana was, but that doesn't really excuse the rest of it for being as awful as it was.
WanderingWind
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The following are artists that appeared in top 40, while Massive Attack did not: Hanson. Backstreet Boys. Spice Girls. Vanilla Ice. Dee-Lite. Coolio. The Macarena. All 4 One. Kriss Kross. Snow. Ricky Martin. Bryan Adams. Paula Abdul. Ace of Base. Debbie Cox.
Most entries on top 40: Mariah Carey, TLC, Boyz II Men and Celine Dion.
The 90s, like most decades, was a sea of shit with a few flecks of gold in it. I know. I was there, man.
Screaming Meat
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I guess you're American? Different Top 40s, innit? Just because the American Top 40 was shit in the 90s does not mean that the 90s was a time of shit music... at least, not any more than any other era.
I'd say they were in the Top 40 fairly consistently. Radiohead singles UK chart positions in the 90s:
"Creep" - 1992 - #7
"Anyone Can Play Guitar" - 1993 - #32
"My Iron Lung" - 1994 - #24
"High and Dry" / "Planet Telex" - 1995 - #17
"Fake Plastic Trees" - 1995 - #20
"Just" - 1995 - #19
"Street Spirit (Fade Out)" - 1996 - #5
"Paranoid Android" - 1997 - #3
"Karma Police" - 1997 - #8
"No Surprises" - 1998 - #4
Uh... Massive Attack UK chart positions in the 90s:
"Unfinished Sympathy" - 1991 - #13
"Safe from Harm" - 1991 - #25
"Sly" - 1994 - #24
"Protection" - 1995 - #14
"Karmacoma" - 1995 - #28
"Risingson" - 1997 - #11
"Teardrop" - 1998 - #10
"Angel" - 1998 - #30
I picked just three bands out of a slew of good ones in the 90s that were in the UK charts. I'm not going to name ALL of them, but in the UK we had Grunge, Rave (Prodigy, Chemical Brothers), The Bristol Trip Hop Scene (Tricky, Portishead) and Britpop/Britrock rear their heads during the 90s, all of which managed to penetrate the UK Top 40 in one form or another.
If you are dismissing 90s music you are either a) American (not meant offensively, you'd just have different radio playlists) or b) need to investigate the era a bit more closely. Regardless of whether the amazing bands were in your country's Top 40 or not, they were making music. 90s was great for music...
...and ecstasy.
I work Top 40 and the truth is that the quality of the music changes periodically. Right now there are some AWESOME tracks that have an amazing 90s vibe and they keep me going after having to hear Iggy Iz 40 times a day.
http://youtu.be/93ASUImTedo
http://youtu.be/6MH9qWemtPo
http://youtu.be/bg1sT4ILG0w
Songs like this definitely give me hope for popular music. I realize it's not everyone's thing but it's way way way better than most of the music played.
http://youtu.be/93ASUImTedo
http://youtu.be/6MH9qWemtPo
http://youtu.be/bg1sT4ILG0w
Songs like this definitely give me hope for popular music. I realize it's not everyone's thing but it's way way way better than most of the music played.
TheChuggernaut
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My mistake. I just assumed we were talking about Billboard charts. I don't really know a lot about other country's playlist during this time, but I can assure you, Amercian pop radio wasn't very good.
Vigilant Walrus
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Why is this kid making me angry?
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Yeah, don't know why I thought you were American, despite talking about 3 British and 1 American bands. My bad. I said the same thing about the 90s being like most eras though. You're simply more optimistic than I.
If you were too lame to find good music in the 90s you deserved to listen to the Spice Girls. Good shit was everywhere - hell, in the early 90s you didn't even have to resort to mail order and indie magazines, there were like four cool music-playing shows on MTV. (MTV Raps, 120 Minutes, Alternative Nation, and Headbanger's Ball). That whole decade was such a massive leap forward from the primitive sounding hip hop, hair metal, and Rick Astley-grade pop schlock of the 80s. If you wanna talk shit about 90s music you'll have to deal with me.
Jesus christ. I like College Dropout and Graduation as much as the next guy, but wtf are you even talking about?
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Screaming Meat
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Sure, me neither, but damning the 90s for having shit music because your country's Top 40 was rubbish is a bit solipsistic, isn't it...? Do we really judge an era's music by it's Top 40? Heaven forbid. Just because decent bands didn't get onto the regular playlists on your national radio doesn't mean they weren't making music. They were there, they were touring, they were recording and releasing stuff. It was out there to be found.
This thinking should apply to any decade. Seriously, 90% of everything released (ever) is utter shit, but that means that there is always a good 10% of quality stuff out there waiting to be found, don't matter if it's today, the 60s, whatever.
It's why I find a notion like "today's music is garbage" to be ridiculous. If you really think that, you simply aren't looking hard enough ('you' as in the general 'you', not 'you' specifically)
Nah. There is always good music to find. That 10%, man.
Screaming Meat
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No idea who is writing neo-Classical stuff at the moment but I'm sure one of these lot might be able to float your boat.
Colonel_Forbin
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These are three excellent examples of over produced music. I'm sure if the folks in this thread were polled, we'd all agree that drum machines have no soul. Following that, it is a logical leap to say that the artists who use drum machines in their music don't care about making music that make you feel anything.
I agree with the kid's premise. There is a lot of music out there that is just surface noise. You have to actively seek out music that is made with heart and soul.
Screaming Meat
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I agree that today's "pop" or chart music is worse and more dumb and banal than it's ever been.. in the 70's even a lot of the maintstream stuff on the charts was really good stuff musically which is definitely not the case today.
However, I feel like some of the best Jazz, Metal, Progressive etc music has been made in the recent years and the more underground stuff is as good as its ever been. Just listen to something else than the boring top 40 stuff I guess?
However, I feel like some of the best Jazz, Metal, Progressive etc music has been made in the recent years and the more underground stuff is as good as its ever been. Just listen to something else than the boring top 40 stuff I guess?
I know that you hold to the music you heard when you were young, so everybody in their 30s think that "music today is garbage"
But i still believe music basically died around 2001-2002
Ehehe, like a friend said, "im amazed that people complained about Disco in the 70s..... put Disco side by side with the pop music we have today and you will think Disco is GOLD!"
But i still believe music basically died around 2001-2002
Ehehe, like a friend said, "im amazed that people complained about Disco in the 70s..... put Disco side by side with the pop music we have today and you will think Disco is GOLD!"
Screaming Meat
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I gotta ask, what was the last great album/song before music died and what was the album/song that killed it?
AHA-Lambda
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Let me reemphasise, I was agreeing with the other poster about growing up in the 90s as a child. There is good stuff but not for me as a kid. I wasn't really into music much at all as a result until my later years in the 2000s.
I didn't know much of any good music from then. The popular shit like spice girls as you mentioned? Or boozing, backstreet boys etc? That was all I knew and yes it was awful but I had nothing else as a child for any frame of reference.
SpaceShark
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I don't like those 3 tracks either (at all), but holy shit that is the most ridiculous generalisation I've heard for quite some time.
There is, no doubt, a lot of soulless music made with drum machines, just like there is a lot of soulless music made with guitar, bass, and drums. The fact that it is a machine has absolutely sweet fuck all to do with it. A good musician is going to use whatever tools at their disposal to create the sounds they want. Sometimes it's from a machine, sometimes it's not.
Now, I personally gravitate towards more guitar-driven rock/punk myself, but goddamn, if you've never heard a drum machine used effectively, then I feel sorry for you.
Screaming Meat
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To be fair the 80s had it's fair share of amazing bands that you had to dig deep for, all of which had a pervasive influence on the following decades alternative scenes: Sonic Youth, Pixies, Joy Division, Kraftwerk, Melvins etc.
Chainsawkitten
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Instruments have no soul. All good music is a capella.
teruterubozu
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Horrid. Solo whistling is the only conduit to the true soul.
Buddha Beam
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I haven't really found any new artists that I like since The Strokes and Franz Ferdinand, really. That was a good 10+ years ago now.
I've found some songs that I like... mostly some sort of acid jazzy or nu disco-type stuff on Soundcloud. But when I look at the rest of their catalogue... meh.
I've found new music that I like, but the artists have all been around for years and years. I just never knew about them.
But newer music and all the trends that come along with it are generally pretty weak, in my opinion.
I've found some songs that I like... mostly some sort of acid jazzy or nu disco-type stuff on Soundcloud. But when I look at the rest of their catalogue... meh.
I've found new music that I like, but the artists have all been around for years and years. I just never knew about them.
But newer music and all the trends that come along with it are generally pretty weak, in my opinion.
I love new music, and would argue that it's better. I do agree new popular music may not be. There is substantially more content available so it's a lot of searching, but the good stuff is out there.
Have you heard of Taste Kid? It's a recommendation site, based on your interests. Overall it's a pretty good way to find new music.
Have you heard of Taste Kid? It's a recommendation site, based on your interests. Overall it's a pretty good way to find new music.
I always hated this whole "music nowadays is horrible" argument when there's a flood of good music out here. It's just a matter of digging in the crates, or in some cases digging on websites like soundcloud. The independent scene is way bigger than it was back in the days and there's more variety in genres compared to back in the days...and I'm a big 90s music fan.
Folks are just too lazy to search for music and want to rely on the radio all of the time.
Folks are just too lazy to search for music and want to rely on the radio all of the time.
Screaming Meat
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10s is so far probably the worst decade imo, speaking as someone who focuses on that buried music. But 00s was very close to the best.
Indie and punk rock music is certainly at its worst in a while. Prog has been reduced to a nerd-niche. Jazz is primarily devoted to decades old ideas. "Electronica" is growing fatter but not taller. Pop is middling overall. Techno and Rap are doing alright. I'd say that Metal is the only genre that's really thriving.
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