The Great Gonzales
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EDIT: beaten by three people. Everyone is hype for Mr. L.
EDIT 2: totally failed to edit and ended up double posting. I'll see myself out, now.
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 8: Put mii in, coach
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EDIT: beaten by three people. Everyone is hype for Mr. L.
EDIT 2: totally failed to edit and ended up double posting. I'll see myself out, now.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
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I was thinking about sculpting every character out of fondant until this comes out!
Should I!
Should I!
I actually think he's a poor choice for an alt and would prefer something else if we had to have one, but he's at least not the weirdest one from Project M.
OMG YESI was thinking about sculpting every character out of fondant until this comes out!
Should I!
Fondant?I was thinking about sculpting every character out of fondant until this comes out!
Should I!
Brainfreeze
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I LOVE watching his combos, one of my favorite PM players to watch. But his aggressive attitude gets him gimped so often it can be frustrating too. He's so inconsistent, it ain't healthy to be a fan.
It's a type of icing for decorating fancy cakes.
The Great Gonzales
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Mr. L is about the only alt Luigi could have - except maybe Peach's dress like in Superstar Saga. Which would still look less abnormal than Meta Knight's alt.
Really, though, Luigi is fine with just palette swaps. Mr. L would be a neat addition, but I won't be too disappointed if he's not in.
Dimitri LH
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Peach only has Tennis Racket now? not sure how I feel about that.
And thus continues my journey to learn something new everyday.
Alright, I just came across something that really has me worried about this game.
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/jun/27/sakurai-talks-about-reasons-doing-two-versions-new-super-smash-bros-thoughts-dlc-music-selection-and-direction-new-game/
So, I'm not thrilled about non-passive bosses appearing in the middle of fights and altering the dynamic of the game, but according to the quote from Sakurai in the above article, there won't be an option to disable such fights.
This means that certain stages are essentially "ruined" due to the fact that a boss will appear at some point to disrupt the fight.
I really, REALLY hope there are only 2-3 stages with bosses. I've been ecstatic for this game for so long, but the notion that awesome stages could be ruined by stage bosses is quickly deflating my excitement.
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/jun/27/sakurai-talks-about-reasons-doing-two-versions-new-super-smash-bros-thoughts-dlc-music-selection-and-direction-new-game/
So, I'm not thrilled about non-passive bosses appearing in the middle of fights and altering the dynamic of the game, but according to the quote from Sakurai in the above article, there won't be an option to disable such fights.
This means that certain stages are essentially "ruined" due to the fact that a boss will appear at some point to disrupt the fight.
I really, REALLY hope there are only 2-3 stages with bosses. I've been ecstatic for this game for so long, but the notion that awesome stages could be ruined by stage bosses is quickly deflating my excitement.
Is this true?
Beelzebufo
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Dimitri LH
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Peachy (again)
So this was posted in Thread 6: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=108315192&postcount=19546
Peach's Side Smash now only uses a tennis racket
She only uses one hand in all of these. Of course, there is the possibility that the tennis racket now has a unique animation. I just think it is more likely that she only uses a tennis racket now.
In Brawl and Melee, she would use both hands for everything (tennis racket, golf club, frying pan).
You can also see Peach's dress split at the front during the animation of the attack cause clothing physics.
Mario Tennis > Mario Golf
The following was found by ffdgh:
Peach's dash change
It seems like she loses momentum from the initial dash in the slowed down version, but she actually doesn't. The animation seems to be similar to her speed-walking animation where she starts skipping.
Peach has a real double jump again!
In Brawl, her double jump was more like a short hop, maybe even worse than that. This is a straightforward and welcome change.
Well from what little weve seen yes?
Dr. Buni
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"No fun allowed".
Hey Horizon, do you still have the Alpha Sapphire icon in your PC? I want to put it on my avatar again. Thanks.
Meh. That's nice for a change of pace if you want to play FD, but merely changing the aesthetics doesn't alter the fact you're still playing on a small, relatively small platform with nothing else.
For example, the Wiley Castle stage with the moving platforms had me really excited about playing that stage. The Yellow Devil quickly changed that.
Green Mamba
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It would be nice to have an option between "extremely intrusive boss" and "absolutely no platforms."
I'm really not a fan of super intrusive stage hazards, but I also really don't care for Final Destination. Final Destination mode is a pretty poor band-aid in this regard and I really hope he doesn't use it as an excuse to skimp on proper neutral-ish stages.
Hmm, Level-5 likes them some Nintendo, but does Nintendo like them back? Sure, avatar bet that there will be Professor Layton representation in Smash. Not for E3 though, for the final game. If I lose, I'll wear whatever avatar you choose from the release of 3DS version until the release of Wii U version.
ShockingAlberto
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I think you can just ignore the boss and treat it like a stage hazard
oreomunsta
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Well... since it's tennis, how about feeling backhanded, aced, matched, faulted, or served? =p
Or loved, if you're up for that change in moveset
The frying pan sound was amazing. It will be missed. =( The golf club was funny too.I like the frying pan though
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Accepted! My rules are always two weeks since it's easier to remember the punishment. Is it okay?
The Great Gonzales
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Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence, so I'm hoping DaBoss's guess is wrong. Even though I'm pretty sure it's right.
Dimitri LH
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Its not that I dont like the Tennis Racket....but it felt so satisfying landing a frying pan hit when they least expect it.
Yep. While it's certainly odd that we haven't seen it, having a unique animation for one of the three variations of the attack is the kind of flourish they seem to enjoy adding this time around.
We'll just have to wait for the demo and see.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Peach isn't playable in the demo.
Did we get a confirmation that the demo and the tournament have the same roster?
I agree. I have nothing against mild, passive stage hazards either. In fact, I like most of them.
But the Yellow Devil as shown in the Smash Direct is incredibly disruptive and completely changes the entire dynamic of the game.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Yes, but I don't remember where I saw the information. Let me google and trying to find one for you.
Edited: Found it on Facebook.
OmegaSmash
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I know EXACTLY how you feel abd I agree 100%. I was looking forward Willy's Castle and Phyrosphere, but the bosses really put a damper on that excitement. It's the same deal as with stages like Wario Ware in Brawl, where the minigames got to a point where they were really annoying to deal with and you'd want to turn them off. The FD/"For Glory" is a terrible way to "fix" this, where a stage hazard (or at least something to disable bosses) would've been way preferable, and maybe even easier to implement.
The good news is, with each iteration leaving out a relatively simple but seemingly obvious option, the next version can add that. 
Kind of like Pokemon and being able to use CUT by pressing A, or making radar better (or then again, worse in the newer version(s)?). Or bike improvements over time.
Last time, there was no tripping option. This time, perhaps the common complaint will be people wanting a battefield version of all maps (rather than a final destination version), and wanting a no-boss toggle option.
Kind of like Pokemon and being able to use CUT by pressing A, or making radar better (or then again, worse in the newer version(s)?). Or bike improvements over time.
Last time, there was no tripping option. This time, perhaps the common complaint will be people wanting a battefield version of all maps (rather than a final destination version), and wanting a no-boss toggle option.
Yes, but I don't remember where I saw the information. Let me google and trying to find one for you.
Edited: Found it on Facebook.
In that case hopefully she's just disabled in the tournament and not completely cut out of the demo, but it's still just a waiting game.
Though chances are we'll get our answer in a random daily pic anyway.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Sakurai confirmed that there wouldn't be stage hazard toggle like PSABR so we got Final Destination toggle instead.
Sure, two weeks is fine.
The Great Gonzales
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That's something I'm not clear on: can you play on the Final Destination variants of stages in any mode, or is it only a feature of For Glory mode?
If I recall, this interview is kind of old. By the time, boss appareances weren´t officially anounced, although we had seen glimpses of yellow devil in the E3 Direct. I think Sakurai was referring to more common stage hazards, like the shy guys in Yoshi Story or the Airwings in Corneria. I kind of expect a boss off option, given the nature os such flow-changing mechanic. In some way, the bosses work of similar to Final Smashes, driving away the focus of the battle.
Still, maybe Sakurai sees the Final Destination Form as the alternativa for players who don´t wish to face bosses every single time. The two stages were bosses were confirmed already have their For Glory forms announced (Willy Castle and Pyrosphere).
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I'm pretty sure that we would able to do that in any mode but it would be better if we get confirmation from Sakurai.
Great! It's ON!
It's aggravating.
I'm going to be so disappointed if half the stages have actual bosses on them that can't be disabled. And again, I have nothing against passive hazards - but bosses like the Yellow Devil just change the game entirely.
One thing about stage hazards is that they're pretty linked into the structure of the stage. In the direct, Stage Bosses got their own section, and nothing was mentioned about stage hazards in general. Hold on to hope that Stage Bosses are a completely separate thing, and we might get the option to turn those off, since they seem less integrated into the stage.
theprodigy
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Dr. Buni
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lol
There is not even a boss confirmed for Pyrosphere. And even if Ridley is the boss there, we don't know what the hell he will be doing during the matches.
Anyway, since there are FD forms for the stages, I am actually hoping most of them have hazard/bosses. I think they add a lot to the matches.
Peléo;114655927 said:
I hope you're right. He did specifically mention hazards, and not bosses, so maybe there will be an option. I REALLY hope there is.
And as someone else mentioned, FD variants aren't really a remedy - it's just FD with a different paint job. Players should be able to experience the complexities of the finely crafted stages without massive bosses spawning at random intervals to completely interrupt the fight.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Yeah I was thinking of the
final boss
Yeah never got that for Marth/Lucina.
The Great Gonzales
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Sakurai said in the Direct, "boss characters will make appearances in other stages, not just this one [Wily's]." As he said that, he showed a shot of Pyrosphere with Ridley's shadow swooping across. The way I see it, that's as close to a confirmation as you can get without explicitly saying, "Pyrosphere has a boss."
To your second point: hazards, yes, bosses, no. Most Smash stages in the past have had hazards of some sort - it's one of Smash's distinguishing features - so it would be disappointing if most of the stages this time around were hazard-free (from what we've seen, fortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case.) Bosses, however, are a whole different animal. I suppose I should reserve judgment until we know more about them, but they look obtrusive enough that it would really take away from the experience if more than one or two stages had bosses.
Dr. Buni
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Fair point, but we still don't know who the boss in the Pyrosphere is and if the boss is Ridley (I don't thin he is, if he was, Sakurai would have revealed he as a boss in the Smash Direct), we don't know what kind of stuff he will do during the matches.
About the bosses: Again, there are FD forms of the stages. If the bosses are as annoying as you make they seem to be, just play in the FD form of the stages. It is simple. That said, I don't suppose the majority of stages will have bosses.
Agree completely.