TheDarkKnight774
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How is LBP3 this fall and Grim Fandango remake console exclusive out of nowhere not a surprise?
Sony E3 2014 Conference Thread
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Happy-Bunny
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For next year dear Sony try to make your presentation more cohesive and try to stay in the flow zone.
Dragging the show in the middle to the bottom was bad pacing.
If you want to talk about numbers, tech and service do it at the beginning and then continue with games only.
Try to sort them from least interesting to megaton.
Also after a CGI trailer followup with a gameplay-trailer/presentation, but keep it brief!
And please get better audio-engineers (you should have them, you are Sony!)
Potential: B+
In the end:
Ubi: B-
MS: C+
Sony: C+
EA: D-
PS: Nintendo please show a new Zelda
Dragging the show in the middle to the bottom was bad pacing.
If you want to talk about numbers, tech and service do it at the beginning and then continue with games only.
Try to sort them from least interesting to megaton.
Also after a CGI trailer followup with a gameplay-trailer/presentation, but keep it brief!
And please get better audio-engineers (you should have them, you are Sony!)
Potential: B+
In the end:
Ubi: B-
MS: C+
Sony: C+
EA: D-
PS: Nintendo please show a new Zelda
I keep saying this, but people keep thinking No mans sky is a ps4 exclusive. It isn't.
BrokenEchelon
Banned
PortStation 4.
Last-gen GTA? We got that. Last-gen AAA press darling? Got that too.
Two-gen old remake of once popular franchise? On the way baby.
Indies indies indies (all of which are or will be on PC), got all of those!
That's all I see as a PC gamer.
If it weren't for the Bloodborne reveal I don't know if I'd have anything positive to say. UC4's trailer looked fantastic, but UC3 was such a piece of shit of a game that it left me with a seriously bad taste for the franchise.
That Bond villain/Powers/PSN segment was also just terrible.
Where was GT7? Where was DriveClub? Where was Santa Monica? Where was Guerrilla?
There's a disturbing amount of people on this forum to whom console gaming is the only kind of gaming, so it's super exclusive to them.
Last-gen GTA? We got that. Last-gen AAA press darling? Got that too.
Two-gen old remake of once popular franchise? On the way baby.
Indies indies indies (all of which are or will be on PC), got all of those!
That's all I see as a PC gamer.
If it weren't for the Bloodborne reveal I don't know if I'd have anything positive to say. UC4's trailer looked fantastic, but UC3 was such a piece of shit of a game that it left me with a seriously bad taste for the franchise.
That Bond villain/Powers/PSN segment was also just terrible.
Where was GT7? Where was DriveClub? Where was Santa Monica? Where was Guerrilla?
Sàmban;115692125 said:
There's a disturbing amount of people on this forum to whom console gaming is the only kind of gaming, so it's super exclusive to them.
SmokeCapone
Banned
Sàmban;115691747 said:
Could of sworn a few games from last e3 were supposed to be for this yr too no? Maybe thats where this is stemming from? Cg trailers from a yr ago, to the samething now with no real gameplay to be only a yr away. Maybe the next events will shed some light into this madness. I wanna see gameplay!
valkillmore
Member
Anyone surprised and upset at the lack of Driveclub during Sony's conference? That is literally the only thing that made me go 'Huh?' I was legit baffled we didn't get a live gameplay demo, even considering the protracted development of the game. Would have been a great moment. And it's a game that's releasing this fall!
All things considered this was probably the strongest E3 conference I've seen in quite a while. Loved what I saw. Standouts were GTAV on PS4 and No Man's Sky, which absolutely blew me away. Could not believe the shot of all the wildlife milling about. My computer desktop at the moment is a piece of concept art that showed dinosaur-like wildlife in it, and I had thought to myself no way is this four person indie team going to be able to match that vision in this game. From what I've seen they'll surpass my expectations. Thrilled that it's a timed console exclusive on PS4.
All things considered this was probably the strongest E3 conference I've seen in quite a while. Loved what I saw. Standouts were GTAV on PS4 and No Man's Sky, which absolutely blew me away. Could not believe the shot of all the wildlife milling about. My computer desktop at the moment is a piece of concept art that showed dinosaur-like wildlife in it, and I had thought to myself no way is this four person indie team going to be able to match that vision in this game. From what I've seen they'll surpass my expectations. Thrilled that it's a timed console exclusive on PS4.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
I think he is there, just not on stage.
Happy-Bunny
Banned
Guilty Gear, Kingdom Under Fire 2, and the other dozen or so F2P games coming out in the next 12 months--supposedly--are also missing. Sony is literally burying its audience in software compared to its competitors.
So you're all pretty much making assumptions. About as much as I expected. I get what you are trying to say, but that stuff was announced for 2015. You can't pull things out of your ass until it gets announced as such.
I was incredibly happy with the omission of DC (and Morpheus too for that matter). The game has been delayed for almost a year, it had an extended look last E3, we dont need another one this year. Sony also doesn't need to remind people about how long this has been delayed.
Im sure it will do fine away from the presentation.
Sàmban;115692539 said:
And what about the 2013 stuff that was shown and is now 2015 material? I, and many others, may be making assumptions, but at least they are believable.
yurinka
Member
I think Sony did a solid conference full of great content, maybe the one with the biggest amount of games (and it's great to see they still have a lot more coming like the previously announced ones, new IPs from MM and Guerrilla plus TLG).
Sadly like in the others the amount of suprises has been low due to leaks and early announcements. But hey, we'll have a lot of cool games to play.
Sadly like in the others the amount of suprises has been low due to leaks and early announcements. But hey, we'll have a lot of cool games to play.
They still need bombs and presentation material for Gamescom in a month. Relax.
Wait, is that bad?
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
I don't think anybody really wanted to see Driveclub at the press conference this year, they'll start hyping it through the summer - probably starting at Gamescom in August because it's a british/european production.
As we know, Sony tend to focus shows around local content, and Driveclub is perfect local content for Gamescom.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
So you believe everything MS showed at E3 is for 2014 or 2015?Sàmban;115692539 said:
MS also have Quantum Break and D4, and Sony have some SOE titles, so that list is incomplete.
Yeah but its not even console exclusive. It is console debut exclusive which means it will launch first on PS4 and (likely) other consoles later. Timed exclusive
His Philness himself said at the beginning of the press conference that all games shown are coming in 2014 and 2015 respectively. He says it in the very first minutes of the conference. There may be delays anyway, but for now all what MS has shown is ready in 2014/2015.
Driveclub will definitely not be a bomb hahaha I just want RIME for Gamescom and that would be satisfying. Then the main event for the year
TLG AT TGS #BELIEVE!
FaintColt388301
Member
I really enjoyed the conference. I give it a solid A-. Maybe the fact that I saw it in theaters helped. The games they showed also appealed to me a lot more than MS's did. I'll probably end up buying almost every one of them. LBP3 surprised the hell out of me. The live unscripted gameplay was genuinely fun. The Order finally showed what I wanted it to and it looked really good. So many good games. Totally didn't see that white PS4 coming.
Inside at MS's conference was the only game I thought "I have to play that". It looked really good.
Inside at MS's conference was the only game I thought "I have to play that". It looked really good.
SmokeCapone
Banned
Sàmban;115692539 said:
Please, out of all the games MS announced, how many are scheduled for a 2015 release?
Compared to what was supposed to have been released this yr from the last E3.
Which ones? I'm genuinely curious. Sunset Overdrive had an all CGI trailer last year, and it's getting released this year. Quantum Break was shown last year, but it's release date was never actually announced (see the release date thread were people kept bitching that it was "delayed" and many posters had to point out that a date was never announced).Why the sudden assumption that all these titles are 2016 when they were specifically said to be 2015?
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
All the games revealed are now till 2015 fall right?
BrainZEROX
Member
I liked both conference but I'll give a slight edge to Sony's. What I liked in MS's conference was that it showed many games I'll enjoy on my PS4 later on. Thank you MS! :-D
Quantum Break was listed as a 2014 game by www.xbox.comSàmban;115693268 said:
Scalebound is a 2016 release date according to ntkrnl
TheDarkKnight774
Member
C'mon there will be. They all do this every year. Games will get pushed to early 2016 that were planned for fall 2015.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
SCEA´s pace has been atrocious since 2009. That conference was amazing even though it had move crap. SCEE´s pace is so much better.
I was expecting a new LBP (maybe a spinoff) as much as I'd expect Nintendo to announce a game with Mario in it. As for Grim Fandango, okay I guess that counts as a surprise for me too, but it's "just" a remake.
CyberPunked
Member
It's clearly going to be on PC. They would have said exclusive to PS4 if it wasn't coming to platforms other than consoles. PC and Linux certain.
Shhhh, I want to believe T.T
As long as Beastsouls, UC4 and RIME come out on time I dont mind what they have to delay.
I don't know which will actually be released 2015. I'm not psychic. What I do know is that they were announced as part of the 2015 portfolio and some of you are trying to downplay them as "not real herp derp" and pulling 2016 out of your asses. If they get delayed or announced as 2016 them by all means. But again, Sunset Overdrive was announced last year with only CG and it's getting released this year. Why are you trying to downplay these ones? It seems odd to do that especially when they specifically mentioned 2015.
Glorious Ownage
Member
Grim Fandango was an awesome surprise
Both conferences were basically tied this year. They both had games to show, although a lot of multi platform for microsoft. Bloodborne blew me away as well as Uncharted 4 even though we only we got to see a quick teaser. LBP3 came out of NOWHERE. Just like that on the screen and no words lol. I was pretty impressed with Far Cry 4 for how great it looked. And batman seriously blew me away.
Sàmban;115692539 said:
Not assuming shit. Ntkrnl called MS' entire conference, except he didn't think they'd include Crackdown yet because it's a 2016 game but they needed something so they threw it in there. He leaked their entire show so I'd imagine he knows what he's talking about.
Kamiya won't be done with Bayo2 until late this year. He's not getting Scalebound made and released in a year. 2016 is the soonest we'll see it and I wouldn't be totally shocked if it's an early 2017 title.
Phantom Dust might be a 2015, but given that it's likely being done by Grounding Inc (Futatsugi's studio, he made the original), that they took forever to make Crimson Dragon, and that Crimson Dragon only released last fall I'd say it's pretty unlikely they're doing a full HD rebuild of Phantom Dust much before very late 2015/early 2016. Given that every game with a reasonable 2015 date had "2015" in the trailer and the known 2016 titles had nothing, I'd say Phantom Dust having no date is a pretty clear indicator.
That's just the reality of MS' lineup.
Sony, listen to this person! This is exactly how I feel about it. Both MS and Sony played it save. There was no "wow" moment. At least there is still hope for the new Zelda game.
A little late to this, as I watched it in the theater last night, but I would say a good solid conference, about 7/10.
It was mostly games, which was very nice, and some hardware and services. But no Last Guardian, driving or extreme sports game was a touch disappointing. LBP, Grim Fandango and No Man's Sky definitely made up for it.
In the end it left me wanting a lot more info about a lot of what they showed, which is good. Worst part must have been seeing the President of SCEA with his super fancy suit and watch, it was just so incongruous. And the whole Powers rambling at the end was a snoozefest. That guy needed to practice his lines and also pare the speech to a third of the time.
It was mostly games, which was very nice, and some hardware and services. But no Last Guardian, driving or extreme sports game was a touch disappointing. LBP, Grim Fandango and No Man's Sky definitely made up for it.
In the end it left me wanting a lot more info about a lot of what they showed, which is good. Worst part must have been seeing the President of SCEA with his super fancy suit and watch, it was just so incongruous. And the whole Powers rambling at the end was a snoozefest. That guy needed to practice his lines and also pare the speech to a third of the time.
zer0square
Neo Member
Sony and Microsoft took 2 very distinct approaches to E3 yesterday.
Microsoft put all their cards on the table and showed almost all their first party games (except for Gears of War and Rise of Nations I guess..) which I think was necessary for them to do because they're currently lagging in sales (because of their mistakes last year). In addition, because they obviously have more money than Sony, they were able to reach out to more third party AAA developers and in return they got exclusive content or first on Xbox One content or whatever.Basically,Microsoft did everything right this E3.
On the other hand, Sony kept their cards very close to their chest and showcased few of their first party exclusives(The Order 1886, Driveclub) and even fewer that we had not already seen before (Bloodborne, LBP3 & Uncharted) and instead showed more indies and some third party titles, and they also talked a lot about PSN, PSNow," Power", but this was important for them to do and it was important for them to introduce the new "Jack Tretton" (aka Shawn Layden) just because they have a lot of ventures going for them and not just the PS4.The lack of first party exclusives was a very smart move by Sony looking into the future but one which would tilt the mindshare more towards the Xbox One.
In the coming months Sony will begin trickling information about their first party titles coming from their studios( Sony Bend, Media Molecule, SCEJ, Guerrilla, Santa Monica, Quantic Dream, Naughty Dog...) which would make people talk about the PS4, especially in 2014, because of the scarcity of AAA titles this year. In addition, Sony still has one more card up their sleeve that they're not ready to show yet...Playstation All Stars Battle Royale Round 2...just kidding, its The Last Guardian, which in my opinion Sony could've shown at this year's E3 but ultimately didn't because they didn't want to make the same mistake twice and they probably would've liked to announce it alone because of all the hype surrounding it.
Microsoft has caught up to Sony quickly, and now its Sony's turn to react to the plethora of AAA titles that Microsoft announced at E3. It will take some time for Sony to show their games but when the time comes, Microsoft would have nothing to retaliate with since all their cards are on the table(except for Rise of Nations
).
Sorry guys for the long post. Anyways, do you agree or..? And btw guys will Civ: Beyond Earth be at E3? No really will it?
Microsoft put all their cards on the table and showed almost all their first party games (except for Gears of War and Rise of Nations I guess..) which I think was necessary for them to do because they're currently lagging in sales (because of their mistakes last year). In addition, because they obviously have more money than Sony, they were able to reach out to more third party AAA developers and in return they got exclusive content or first on Xbox One content or whatever.Basically,Microsoft did everything right this E3.
On the other hand, Sony kept their cards very close to their chest and showcased few of their first party exclusives(The Order 1886, Driveclub) and even fewer that we had not already seen before (Bloodborne, LBP3 & Uncharted) and instead showed more indies and some third party titles, and they also talked a lot about PSN, PSNow," Power", but this was important for them to do and it was important for them to introduce the new "Jack Tretton" (aka Shawn Layden) just because they have a lot of ventures going for them and not just the PS4.The lack of first party exclusives was a very smart move by Sony looking into the future but one which would tilt the mindshare more towards the Xbox One.
In the coming months Sony will begin trickling information about their first party titles coming from their studios( Sony Bend, Media Molecule, SCEJ, Guerrilla, Santa Monica, Quantic Dream, Naughty Dog...) which would make people talk about the PS4, especially in 2014, because of the scarcity of AAA titles this year. In addition, Sony still has one more card up their sleeve that they're not ready to show yet...Playstation All Stars Battle Royale Round 2...just kidding, its The Last Guardian, which in my opinion Sony could've shown at this year's E3 but ultimately didn't because they didn't want to make the same mistake twice and they probably would've liked to announce it alone because of all the hype surrounding it.
Microsoft has caught up to Sony quickly, and now its Sony's turn to react to the plethora of AAA titles that Microsoft announced at E3. It will take some time for Sony to show their games but when the time comes, Microsoft would have nothing to retaliate with since all their cards are on the table(except for Rise of Nations
).Sorry guys for the long post. Anyways, do you agree or..? And btw guys will Civ: Beyond Earth be at E3? No really will it?
Admiral Woofington
Member
As somebody who watched games for both, hands down Sony won. Microsoft's conference had way too many games without solid release dates or a full cg trailer with no gameplay, and nothing that came out was unexpected. Admittedly halo 2 in xbox one has me excited for multiplayer alone but besides that and sunset overdrive I wasn't blown away by any other cg trailer.
Sony on the other hand surprised me with lbp3. I was disappointed with no last guardian and no guerrilla game and no rumored syphon filter. But whatever. They might have some surprises for tgs.
Microsoft had that nice looking indie title, but Sony once again showed us that they are THE console for the best third party titles and for bigger indie titles such as No Man's Skies. Mix that with bloodborne, last of us and lbp3 this year and Sony will have a more than decent 2014 among thir party titles.
Microsoft tried hard but promises of game with no release date nor gameplay don't do it for me anymore. Who's to say when these games come out or if they'll even be any good. Fable for example hasn't been good since fable 2. Without Molyneux even the slightest chance of vision/inspiration mightve left the franchise. So I need to be wowed. Same with Crackdown 3. And that game revival title doesn't do anything for me because I never played the original.
Sony on the other hand surprised me with lbp3. I was disappointed with no last guardian and no guerrilla game and no rumored syphon filter. But whatever. They might have some surprises for tgs.
Microsoft had that nice looking indie title, but Sony once again showed us that they are THE console for the best third party titles and for bigger indie titles such as No Man's Skies. Mix that with bloodborne, last of us and lbp3 this year and Sony will have a more than decent 2014 among thir party titles.
Microsoft tried hard but promises of game with no release date nor gameplay don't do it for me anymore. Who's to say when these games come out or if they'll even be any good. Fable for example hasn't been good since fable 2. Without Molyneux even the slightest chance of vision/inspiration mightve left the franchise. So I need to be wowed. Same with Crackdown 3. And that game revival title doesn't do anything for me because I never played the original.
DemurOnion
Banned
These people are such poor logic. If you found a game at Micro's conference you could have found a game at Sony's conference.... that is unless you are a raging fanboy tween lol.
True story.
Watched the conference again with my friends.
Sony was rocking it. A really great presser.
And Bloodborne ..... ^_^
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
WOW! What a turn of events! Started of shitty, ended up AWESOME.
Destiny Beta - Footage looked shit, beta so early is good!
White PS4 - YES!
The Order - Really good looking but looks boring
Entwined - Meh
LBP3 - I'm tired of LBP, will play with gf though
Blood Borne - HYPEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FC4 - Meh
Dead Island - Cool trailer
TLoU + D3 - wat
Let it Die - Suda51, plz stahp
Abzu - Cool
No Man's Sky - Looks interesting! Lots of typical PR-talk for this though
^ From here, Sony went batshit insanely good!
YOUTUBE UPLOAD - FUCK YES
MORTAL KOMBAT X - FUCK YES!!!
RATCHET MOVIE - DAY ONE CINEMA
TLOU REMASTERED JULY 29 - FUCK YES!!!!!
MGS5 - TRAILER SO FUCKING GOOD!!!!
GTA5 Remastered - YES YES YES YES YES!!!! WILL (RE)PLAY
BATMAN ARKHAM KNIGHT - YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SCARECROW! LOOKS SO GODLY!
UNCHARTED 4: A THIEF'S END - HOLY MOTHER OF JESUS CHRIST YEEEEEEES!!!!
8/10 Before the final 30%, it was 4/10
Destiny Beta - Footage looked shit, beta so early is good!
White PS4 - YES!
The Order - Really good looking but looks boring
Entwined - Meh
LBP3 - I'm tired of LBP, will play with gf though
Blood Borne - HYPEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FC4 - Meh
Dead Island - Cool trailer
TLoU + D3 - wat
Let it Die - Suda51, plz stahp
Abzu - Cool
No Man's Sky - Looks interesting! Lots of typical PR-talk for this though
^ From here, Sony went batshit insanely good!
YOUTUBE UPLOAD - FUCK YES
MORTAL KOMBAT X - FUCK YES!!!
RATCHET MOVIE - DAY ONE CINEMA
TLOU REMASTERED JULY 29 - FUCK YES!!!!!
MGS5 - TRAILER SO FUCKING GOOD!!!!
GTA5 Remastered - YES YES YES YES YES!!!! WILL (RE)PLAY
BATMAN ARKHAM KNIGHT - YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SCARECROW! LOOKS SO GODLY!
UNCHARTED 4: A THIEF'S END - HOLY MOTHER OF JESUS CHRIST YEEEEEEES!!!!
8/10 Before the final 30%, it was 4/10
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Sony is really in a strong strong position. They have some great new IP coming, plus the timed exclusives are some of the best indie games but the real big quiver in their bow is just the graphic superiority. Your going to see them continue to outpace X1 to a large degree and especially when the most exciting looking games right now are mostly 3rd party that is a huge deal.
Batman will look best on PS4
Far Cry will look best on PS4
Assassins Creed will look best on PS4
Witcher will look best on PS4
On and on and on and on.
As the gen continues that will only continue. It's why MS really really need a exclusive IP that blew our socks off because they start at a disadvantage.
Batman will look best on PS4
Far Cry will look best on PS4
Assassins Creed will look best on PS4
Witcher will look best on PS4
On and on and on and on.
As the gen continues that will only continue. It's why MS really really need a exclusive IP that blew our socks off because they start at a disadvantage.
DemurOnion
Banned
My biggest deal is I'm now always afraid of IQ with the Bone. If they can master that for Halo, SO, and Forza and such they will do alright. If they can't well then they have lost me. Sony clearly won this for me.
DarkLordMalik
Member
He wasn't on stage but he was attending E3.