E3 2014 Super Smash Bros Impressions (Best Buy Smashfest / Invitational)

I seriously don't know who could have thought revealing new characters behind the scenes would be a good idea... You want to get people hyped!
 
Oh my god, I just saw the Megaman Final Smash moment... Nintendo needs to do this shit every year at least. That was the hypest moment of E3.
 
I think this event was pretty incredible. The matches were as good as you could expect considering the ruleset and how long the players had with the game. NOA is awesome for doing this.

Hopefully this becomes a regular thing.
 
Updatind what i know off the top of my head before bed.
georly said:
Updated Set of questions:

Character Questions (non-technical)
Final Smash for Mario
Final Smash for Link -Same
Final Smash for Olimar -Same
Final Smash for Zelda
Final Smash for Pikachu -Same
Final Smash for Marth -Same
Final Smash for Fox -Same
Final Smash for Sonic -Same
Final Smash for Zero Suit Samus - NEW - jumps into her ship and fires lasers
Final Smash for DK
Final Smash for Bowser
Wii Fit Trainer's Kirby Hat
Rosalina's Kirby Hat AND power (Olimar's Neutral B is summon pikmin, but Kirby's Olimar power is to throw a random pikmin)
Little Mac's Kirby Hat AND does kirby gain a KO meter?
Mega Man's Kirby Hat
Greninja's Kirby Hat
Villager's Kirby Hat
Olimar's Kirby Hat power - Does it throw pikmin in order?
All Taunts for Little Mac
All Taunts for Rosalina
All Taunts for Mega Man
All Taunts for Greninja
All Taunts for Wii Fit Trainer
All Taunts for Villager
Any new taunts for playable veterans
Luma colors? Why is it sometimes a different color? Random? - seems random, yes
All villager variations (all boy versions, all girl versions)

Character-specific technical questions
Is Bowser's Koopa Klaw still be influenced by the person who is grabbed when they have lower % than him and vice versa.
Does Bowser's crazy forward b -> air dodge infinite double jump trick still work?
Does Dedede still have a chainthrow?
Will DK have a mid air down special?
Can Kirby do his f throw combos at low percents?
Is Link's dAir meteor smash worthwhile? Is it still a meteor smash, like it was claimed on the dojo?
How easy/frequent is it to fill Little Mac's KO meter?
Does Marth's down throw -> tipper fsmash guaranteed combo still work at very low percentages?
Is Marth's grab release still viable? Can he ground grab release -> regrab on any characters? Can he air grab release -> fair on any characters? etc.
Can Mega Man and Sonic air dodge after their Up Bs?
Does pikachu still have his down throw chain grab?
Does Pikachu still have his forward throw chain grab?
Can Pikachu still quick attack cancel?
Details on Rosalina’s Luma's mechanics. How does it behave, particularly when left alone? We have assumptions but no concrete facts. How much health does it have before it disappears? 1 hit? 10%? 50%? Is it based off rosalina’s percent in any way?
Does Samus' bomb (down+B) explode on contact(melee), or on a timer only (brawl)?
Sonic's Homing Attack - can you still stall under the stage when someone is within his homing range?
Mechanics of Villager's Down B (what happens when you use Down B and already have a tree out somewhere else)
What are Wii Fit Trainer's Deep Breathing Mechanics? Is it timed? Does it buff all attacks/specials? How big is the buff? Is it just percentage, or knockback, or both?
Why does Zelda's Phantom Slash have 2 different types of slashes? Does it just just depend on how long you charge it?
How does Zelda's Phantom Slash work in the air? Can you charge it?

Item Questions
How does the Beetle item work? Does it pull people off screen?
Who does the Blue Shell target? Most stock? Smallest percent? - seems random, for now. Saw it go after highest percent AND lowest percent.
What is the chest item? Is it just another container (like box or barrel?)
How does Cucco item work? Does it have to be hit? What happens when it triggers? -Have to throw it at a player. If it makes contact, cuccos swarm them, but can also hurt others
How much percent does fairy heal? No one seemed able to activate the fairy. Picking it up did nothing. Throwing it did nothing
Is gust bellows useless? Is it like fludd? It's fludd on crack.
Are there any assist trophies in the demo that weren't in Smash Direct/Dojo? Yes, a lot of returning ones. Tingle, Shadow, etc. Magnus supposedly new
Are there any pokeballs in the demo that weren't in Smash Direct/Dojo? Fletchling seems to be the new goldeen.
What does the P Flag do?
What do the Galaga bugs do?
Can you attack with the Super Leaf/Raccoon Tail? Doesnt seem like it. Gives you the peach gover

Stage Questions
How many transformations does Mushroom Kingdom U have? 4. First world, water world, plant cloud world, then a castle type
How many transformations do the colosseum have? Unknown yet but the platforms coming up are unobtrusive and nice
How many transformations does arena ferox have?
How many enemies are there in reset bomb forest?
How long until reset bomb forest restores to a non-scrolling version?
Are any returning stages different (other than visuals?) not in demo
Is the Dark Lord a boss or a stage hazard on find mii? not in demo
Do the blocks change shape while you're playing in the living room, or do they spawn when you start the level?
Do pokemon make an appearance in prism tower, or is it just a visual of the city? - Not in demo
Can you knock the lights down in the boxing ring on 3DS, or is this a wii-u-only feature?
What happens when the bomb train hits you/the train in the spirit tracks stage? not in demo
Are you on a plane 100% of the time on the pilotwings stage? yes
Do you go through the volcano in the pilotwings stage?
Do pokemon appear in the kalos leage stage? not in demo
How many different rooms are there in the kalos league stage? Is the room determined at start, or does it change mid-match? not in demo
If Pyrosphere is playable, what are Ridley's Boss mechanics? not in demo
Do any other stages have stage bosses? not in demo

Technical Mechanics
How does the ledge mechanics work? Is it based off higher or lower HP?
Can you cancel the tether latch by pressing down and then do another tether immediately after?
How many tethers you can you do (in Brawl, you could do a max of 3 tethers)?
how soon can you jump from the ledge (aka doing a ledgehop)?
Can you attack during ledgejumps (as in when you press a jump button while on the edge) and/or do anything else during ledgejumps?
Is rolling onto the stage is possible to be used as an edgehog (doubtful but it could have a little more occupancy than Brawl, you never know)?
Is edgehogging a legitimate strategy still?
Do grabs restore character's jumps? Test to see if grab releasing chaingrabs are still in the game (and if they are, this isn't good lol).
Is momentum from a running jump maintained?
Do attacks still have tripping properties? (try this with Zelda's Down Tilt or even Bowser's Forward Tilt). If so, is it random chance or guaranteed?
Are any Brawl techniques are in the game still such as DACUS (Dash Attack Canceled Up Smash), Glide Tossing, RAR (Reverse Aerial Rush, the tech you use to turn yourself around as you're going into the air), etc?
Can you air dodge more than once in the air. Also test out how long air dodge invincibility lasts and how punishable they are vs Brawl.
Compare spot dodges, see how long they are invincible and if you can spam them as much as you can in Brawl.
Test out shield drop lag (if there's any at all) as well as if there's any shieldstun (Brawl didn't have any shieldstun which made shieldgrabs super powerful at the beginning of the metagame).
Can you dash dance? Is it useful?
Can you cancel your run with a crouch?
Can you still do the quick ledge grab like in Brawl?
Is glide tossing still in the game? If so, do characters still glide as far as they do in Brawl?
Is it possible to DI moves at lower %s?
What are grab/grab release mechanics like?
What determines the number of invincibility frames while grabbing the ledge? percent?
Can characters snap to the ledge in the middle of their up b (not just at the end)?
How easy is it to grab items in the air/while running? Brawl easy or melee hard?

General Mechanics
Are character intros back? (Mario Warp Pipe intro for an example) yes
Do certain moves still "freeze" time, like Zelda's sweet spot forward air or the multi-hit Pikachu down smash?
What are the alternate colors for every character in the demo?
Do alternate costumes, like Male Wii Fit Trainer, also have alternate colors?
How many taunts do characters have? What are they? Do veterans differ from Brawl?
Are star KOs in the game? yes
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It looks like there are two different rosters for 3DS and Wii U demos. From what I've seen the character breakdown is:

WiiU only:

Zero Suit Samus
Link
Rosalina & Luma

3DS only:
Luigi
Yoshi
Shiek

I wonder what made them put together 2 different playable character lists
 
The nailed Pac-Man's inclusion just like they did with Mega-Man. A modern interpretation of the classic look, with a moveset based on tons and tons of fanservice.

Now give me Bomber-man to round it all out!
 
I know they will never be balanced but Final Smashes like Zero Suits Samus really need to be cut or toned down. Whenever Snake got the ball in Brawl all the fun just dissapeared among my friends (that didn't play Snake), same thing with Radec in Playstation All-star and we don't even play competitively.
 
This was crazy. Unreal to see Sakurai, Geoff, Reggie, Prog, Ken, Dr PP, etc all sharing a stage.

Every match was pretty hype, and I can't wait to see more of the game. Impressions aren't the most enthusiastic, but I'll hold out some hope.
 
If anyone wants to help me answer more questions, it would be appreciated. I've set myself up for a daunting task. If anyone has any other cool tidbits we've learned, let me know and i'll ad them as well.

For example: Swimming is now gone, seemingly.
 
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Hmm, I thought the scarf CT Zero was wearing was an Alberto del Rio reference, particularly with how the announcers introduced him (like how del Rio gets introduced in WWE) but apparently his mom made it for him.
 
Heading out soon, gonna try out Kirby at least to see some copy hats and Link to see if he still sucks
He will, but I can always hope for Project M Link
 
Can anyone confirm voices? I'm noticing some of the characters, unless its quiet, don't seem to have voices, even some of the returning ones. Really wanting to know how Megaman and Little Mac sounds like. I heard Kirby and Fox...Link seems to have his stock voice from Brawl exactly the same.
 
Well, I'm here. Not as packed, but I didn't make it here as early last year as I did today. Hopefully I'll get two matches in
 
I went but was number 37 even though it was an hour before it starts. First 35 get a coin, which I really wanted. I left because I didn't want to wait 3 hours to play 2 matches.
 
Okay, so here they're saying we only will get the coin when we pick up our pre-order...

I'm an hour away from the best buy, so that is really annoying...
 
Someone on twitter also said you get the coin when you pick up the game

How would they keep track of that haha


These pics on Instagram show lines that are long as hell, I'm about to go to my closet best buy to see
 
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