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[kevboard]

Either via Proton and Steam (adding a game manually to it) or via Lutris. Which games? Rollercoaster Tycoon 1 & 2, Sim City 2000, Sim City 3000, StarCraft, Diablo, Unreal, Unreal Tournament 99, Freelancer, Schleichfahrt, Grand Theft Auto 2, The Lord of the Rings: Battle for Middle-Earth, Dune 2000, Emperor: Battle for Dune, Warhammer: Dark Omen, No One Lives Forever 2, Need for Speed Underground, Half-Life, the Quake games, the C&C games, etc.

Never had any problems. Some games require special emulators. Like ScummVM or just DOSBox. But that is also required on modern Windows as well, so it's not like Linux is adding any complexity here.

what exactly are the issues on Windows with any of these?
I did play No One Lives Forever 2 like a year ago on Windows and had no isses (besides realising that the game is overrated crap... what a shame)... so what issues are there on windows that aren't happening on Linux? I'm confused.

meanwhile, I just recently had to try 7 different versions of Proton/Wine to get Berserk Boy running with its FMV sequences not being blacked out. and that's a modern game.
or for Punpkin Jack (another modern game) I had the same issue with black FMVs. there I had to switch into windows vista prefix (or was it Win7?) and use a specific Proton version to get it to work. which was another half hour of trial an error, and 10 minutes of googling solutions.

 

[Durin]

On Windows you just double click on an .exe and the thing is running. No Proton/wine, no add to Steam, no right proton/wine version, no prefixes, no missing libraries/dependences, no missing support for RTX, HDR, DLSS4/FSR/XeSS yet to be implemented on proton/wine, game ready drivers, etc...

I am hoping in future that some of these things get more automated like prefixes, missing dependences, and just any kind of additional launch options required to put in to get a game to run.

That said, HDR looks like it's going to be a solved thing this year, along with improvements to DLSS/FSR/XeSS. In general though, the trend lines I see on ProtonDB is that each version of Proton seems to just work for more and more games out of the box, and regularly games that used to require tedious crap to tweak are no longer necessary like I see emulators now require less and less fussing from users.

I also think AI could help as well with automating solutions, and not requiring google-fu to troubleshoot problems, along with more devs just testing Proton with their own games.

 

[LordCBH]

Does Linux gaming play nice with Nvidia cards?

 

[RoboFu]

On Windows you just double click on an .exe and the thing is running. No Proton/wine, no add to Steam, no right proton/wine version, no prefixes, no missing libraries/dependences, no missing support for RTX, HDR, DLSS4/FSR/XeSS yet to be implemented on proton/wine, game ready drivers, etc...

With bazzite you literally just install a game an play. It's basically the newer version of steam that's on the steam deck. I only game on my gaming pc so it's perfect for people like me who just want a console like experience with steam.
I tried that with wi does but it's was full of windows pop ups and update issues.

 

[Durin]

Does Linux gaming play nice with Nvidia cards?

I would say it's getting pretty close. Gaming distros automate the driver process, HDR has some remaining issues that are likely going to be solved soon, and some games have weaker performance. Even the Steam Deck UI front-end is somewhat working with Nvidia cards now too if you wanna use that on a TV with a gamepad, but it's at a point where it's "good", just not "great" yet. I've used Bazzite with my rtx 4080, and had no major problems beyond HDR.

 

[Syphon Filter]

Does Linux gaming play nice with Nvidia cards?

use amd, they support linux better.

 

[BeardSpike]

I also think AI could help as well with automating solutions, and not requiring google-fu to troubleshoot problems, along with more devs just testing Proton with their own games.

I already use search brave instead of google search engine, its my default search engine on my Vivaldi browser both on CachyOS aswell as on Win10.

The AI search function generally takes me to the solutions with any problems on Linux.

It even summerises all the needed commands and they are ready to just copy them to terminal...

This is hella useful and generally a really good time saver on my end. Not that I need this often.

But I couldn't figure out how to connect Xbox Elite 2 controller with official adapter on Linux and It took 10s to just install needed drivers for the controller and dongle with brave search engine AI function. Just a recent Linux adventure.

 

[kevboard]

With bazzite you literally just install a game an play.

you don't. there are multiple games that I had issues with on Linux, all of them modern to semi-modern games as well.
for most mainstream single player games you might have no issues. but if you start going into multiplayer stuff or stuff that's more indy, you will either not be able to play them at all, or you will have to tinker and Google for the right Wine settings.

I had multiple modern games where I had to tinker around with different Proton versions and windows prefixes etc.

new game launches are also always hit and miss. some games will not work for days or weeks after launch.
like Indiana Jones for example didn't work, then worked badly (low fps even on high end gpus), then an update broke it again apparently, and then it worked again.
Apex Legends worked fine, then an update made the shader compilation bug out and you had constant I/O and shader stutters after every launch, then it was fixed again, and now it's not playable at all anymore due to their anticheat changes.

 

[Durin]

I already use search brave instead of google search engine, its my default search engine on my Vivaldi browser both on CachyOS aswell as on Win10.

The AI search function generally takes me to the solutions with any problems on Linux.

It even summerises all the needed commands and they are ready to just copy them to terminal...

This is hella useful and generally a really good time saver on my end.

Same, Brave search is great, just substitute Vivaldi (used to use) for Zen Browser with me. In general I've managed to mostly de-google myself: Protonmail over Gmail, Obsidian over Google Docs, Brave Search over Google search, etc. Only Google Maps and Youtube remain for me.

I was thinking also of a more integrated solution in Steam itself so you don't even need to bring up a web browser, and instead just select an option in Steam with the game selected to bring up a chatbot saying it crashed. Quickly parse information, scrub their on resources + ProtonDB, and then if the fix were a launch option in Steam that it would automatically copy it in the field for that game to just launch properly. Like it's not hard for me to do this manually, but for the normie user, or someone who only has a gamepad using a mic with speech to text.

 

[rodrigolfp]

With bazzite you literally just install a game an play.

Including non Steam DirectX games that just double clicking the exe will run??

 

[Kataploom]

Proton and Wine are the bigger complexity here as they are very hit or miss.

Are you sure? I just found it way easier to get started with Linux than with Windows if you install Bazzite... On Windows you have to install Windows, then download and install drivers, Steam and any other store you want... On Bazzite you install Bazzite and that's about it. I tested several games over the last few days and all they worked amazingly, even old stuff like Remember Me which I tried just to see how a DX9 game would behave.

 

[Kataploom]

I would say it's getting pretty close. Gaming distros automate the driver process, HDR has some remaining issues that are likely going to be solved soon, and some games have weaker performance. Even the Steam Deck UI front-end is somewhat working with Nvidia cards now too if you wanna use that on a TV with a gamepad, but it's at a point where it's "good", just not "great" yet. I've used Bazzite with my rtx 4080, and had no major problems beyond HDR.

Even with the alleged issues that I didn't notice, it's way WAY more useful than on Windows. I only knew what HDR was because I see it on YouTube videos and in some movies, in game tho? Fuck Windows, it's useless for anything HDR, it looks horrible and it's not just because of calibration, the thing just doesn't seem to accommodate no matter how, it's dimmed af, while in Bazzite it just works out of the box.

Linux is not perfect but I'd say it's at the point that using one of the other is just a matter of preference, one have this, other have that, etc.

And BTW using Bazzite and limiting to Steam is way more plug and play than using Windows, I literally reinstalled Windows just to have a clean installation in a smaller partition to leave more space to Linux, and I didn't even bother installing Steam or other stores because I'll probably only use it for Game Pass anyway.

 

[awwr999999]

use amd, they support linux better.

Does Linux gaming play nice with Nvidia cards?

Just make sure any relatively new HW is supported before you buy it.
Linux is as its best with the flip side - always being able to utilize old HW that Windows won't touch.

 

[Durin]

Even with the alleged issues that I didn't notice, it's way WAY more useful than on Windows. I only knew what HDR was because I see it on YouTube videos and in some movies, in game tho? Fuck Windows, it's useless for anything HDR, it looks horrible and it's not just because of calibration, the thing just doesn't seem to accommodate no matter how, it's dimmed af, while in Bazzite it just works out of the box.

Linux is not perfect but I'd say it's at the point that using one of the other is just a matter of preference, one have this, other have that, etc.

And BTW using Bazzite and limiting to Steam is way more plug and play than using Windows, I literally reinstalled Windows just to have a clean installation in a smaller partition to leave more space to Linux, and I didn't even bother installing Steam or other stores because I'll probably only use it for Game Pass anyway.

I only mention HDR because it's a feature pretty common with AAA games, and it's an example that Linux gaming hasn't replicated all of the benefits of Windows yet. Windows doesn't have great automation for HDR, but W11 in my experience on my LG OLED looks quite good in most games with it.

The hardest parts of Linux are learning the differences of how it operates as an OS, there are areas where you do run into the command line vs having GUI-based option, and limitations on app availability depending on your needs. I think you can find alternatives, and quite a few popular apps that don't have dedicated Linux apps you can simply use via a web page, and save that web page as a Persistent Web App to work pretty much the same.

I do think Linux and the gaming distros have started to come up with some cool tools that make certain parts of gaming more intuitive like Valve's UI front-end with a gamepad + Decky Loader plugins. Even apps that have come out of Linux gaming like Heroic Game Launcher I prefer over Epic, GoG or Amazon's own launchers...and it even works on Windows. Same with EmuDeck, it made emulation a breeze on the Steam Deck, and on my dual-boot setup I use EmuDeck on Windows because it's easier than manually installing/updating that stuff.

Linux just needs probably 1-2 years before I think it will be easy enough for the normie user to at least game on.

 

[kruis]

I'm not a lInux bro at all but I am actually dreading Windows 11. I use it for work and it's a broken POS that is more of a MacOS than a good Windows OS. The taskbar alone is a major blow to me.

Get StartAllBack. My Windows 11 looks like a mix between Windows 7 and Windows 10 and is a pleasure to use. I've been using StartAllBack and its predecessor StartIsBack ever since Windows 8.

StartAllBack to fix all Windows 11 deal-breaking UI issues

StartAllBack restores taskbar, start menu, context menus, explorer, sanity, style and order!

www.startallback.com

 

[Hudo]

what exactly are the issues on Windows with any of these?
I did play No One Lives Forever 2 like a year ago on Windows and had no isses (besides realising that the game is overrated crap... what a shame)... so what issues are there on windows that aren't happening on Linux? I'm confused.

meanwhile, I just recently had to try 7 different versions of Proton/Wine to get Berserk Boy running with its FMV sequences not being blacked out. and that's a modern game.
or for Punpkin Jack (another modern game) I had the same issue with black FMVs. there I had to switch into windows vista prefix (or was it Win7?) and use a specific Proton version to get it to work. which was another half hour of trial an error, and 10 minutes of googling solutions.

Again, YMMV. I found that I just had to fiddle around a lot more to get shit running on Windows for specific games, specifically games crashing. I also had to fiddle around on Linux as well, but much less so, since I usually just can use some Lutris config etc. and once the games started up, they never crashed for me. So for your use cases, Windows seems better. For my uses cases, Linux seems better.

Interestingly enough, while GTA 2 was easier to set up on Windows, I had some audio issues which were not present on Linux.

 

[BeardSpike]

 

[rodrigolfp]

Are you sure? I just found it way easier to get started with Linux than with Windows if you install Bazzite... On Windows you have to install Windows, then download and install drivers, Steam and any other store you want... On Bazzite you install Bazzite and that's about it. I tested several games over the last few days and all they worked amazingly, even old stuff like Remember Me which I tried just to see how a DX9 game would behave.

I just double clicked on one of my games .exe and Bazzite keeps me giving a protontricks error.

 

[Kataploom]

I just double clicked on one of my games .exe and Bazzite keeps me giving a protontricks error.

Well, I guess it's mostly good for Steam games and I honestly don't think about getting out of Steam as much as possible, I get it's probably not equally good for all use cases for Steam games so far it is better in most cases. I'll keep checking, everything works and runs way better than on Windows which is absurd in the good sense.

BTW guys I've seen these updates come on steam in game mode and there seem to be for Steam Deck, are they Steam OS general updates that benefit be or just Steam Deck stuff I'll never need?

 

[sono]

Windows 11

You can run ubuntu24 Linux on windows using wsl2. I use that regularly for various work related things. No idea if it is good for gaming but wsl2 might be one way to test?

 

[awwr999999]

Linux just needs probably 1-2 years before I think it will be easy enough for the normie user to at least game on.

Gaming's going to always work best on the dominant OS.
The only real hope is Google expanding ChromiumOS into a replacement desktop OS to rival Windows.
When ChromeOS is as easy to install on a laptop/desktop as Windows Google will quickly dethrone MS and gaming will move to linux.

 

[Hudo]

Anyone using CachyOS?

 

[pudel]

pewdiepie made a linux vid yesterday which gets lots of attention currently. this guy goes nuts with customization stuff.

 

[BeardSpike]

Anyone using CachyOS?

Me on RX 9070XT, things improve fast. Non-raytraced games have better performace than on Win10.

Still a bit to go regarding ray traced games.

I'm hoping we also get some sort of support for FSR4 then it will be golden.

 

[PlayStaytion]

Ask the Canadian Linus.

 

[Durin]

Gaming's going to always work best on the dominant OS.
The only real hope is Google expanding ChromiumOS into a replacement desktop OS to rival Windows.
When ChromeOS is as easy to install on a laptop/desktop as Windows Google will quickly dethrone MS and gaming will move to linux.

I don't really think that has to be the case, because you're already seeing rapid improvement on essentially translating the benefits of that original OS's apps to another, and in a growing amount of cases better performance with less stuttering through Linux.

Microsoft has also failed to push many of its own standards (UWP) vs hardware makers like Nvidia or AMD, much less make a storefront to really challenge Steam.

Google is still not much of a player outside mobile, and even then they've been lackluster with tablets. Chromebooks just aren't equipped to handle anything serious, and they have yet to indicate much of anything different.

 

[nemiroff]

What's the average performance hit by running modern Steam games on Linux these days? The hit used to be significant, but idk.

Edit: Gemini tells me that some games, like f.ex. KCD2 even has a slight performance advantage on Linux. Is this typical for all new games?

 

[Hudo]

Me on RX 9070XT, things improve fast. Non-raytraced games have better performace than on Win10.

Still a bit to go regarding ray traced games.

I'm hoping we also get some sort of support for FSR4 then it will be golden.

Would you say it's OK as a daily driver?

 

[TheSHEEEP]

What's the average performance hit by running modern Steam games on Linux these days? The hit used to be significant, but idk.

The game on its own + Proton will most likely have a higher print than on Windows, but that neglects to take Windows itself into account.
In general: Even with the flashiest (yuck) of distros, I don't see "idle" performance cost anywhere near as high as what Windows demands (for no good reason, if we're being honest).

How high that "Proton fee" is really depends on the game. In general way below 10%, but I can't claim to know everything so maybe there are some exceptions here.
Tools like DXVK have advanced so quickly it's really crazy.

 

[BeardSpike]

Would you say it's OK as a daily driver?

It was superb on RX 6700XT.

On RX 9070XT it is okay if you play nonraytraced games.

As for raytracing you will leave some performance on the table. Card will consume like +50W TDP compared to Windows.

As of stability I only had issues at launch, now every game is stable and isn't crashing.

At launch of RX 9070XT consumed like +140W TDP on Linux compared to Windows in raytraced games. So it is getting there, slowly.

Edit: sorry it was +180 to +190 TDP even at times Hudo

So yeah things are improving a lot. I hope by Win10 end-of-life we will have the same performance in raytracing and fsr4 also working on Linux so I can use it daily.

 

[Hudo]

It was superb on RX 6700XT.

On RX 9070XT it is okay if you play nonraytraced games.

As for raytracing you will leave some performance on the table. Card will consume like +50W TDP compared to Windows.

Well, maybe I should finally try it out. I keep hearing good things about it. I do have an Nvidia card, though. Raytracing is not that important to me in games (and for work related stuff where I use Raytracing, I usually have my shit containerized anyway).

 

[nemiroff]

pewdiepie made a linux vid yesterday which gets lots of attention currently. this guy goes nuts with customization stuff.

I'm excited because I'm about to install Linux (again, I'm an old school OS tinkerer and have decades of experience with Linux in a developer environment at work).

However, to be fair, a lot of the user interactions he demonstrated is what I already currently do in W11. I just think he enabled a "deep dive mode" for Linux that he didn't do on Windows because the OS swap inpired him to. F.ex. W11 already have shortcuts for everything, and I literally never use the W11 menu because I use Powertoys' Command Palette (v2 of Powertoys Run, and it's so fucking good), and customizations are flexible and super-easy with WindHawk, Stardock, and more (although not to the extent that you can do on Linux of course).

With that said, among other things, he's 100% right about the annoying inability to administrate bloat and background processes in Windows (edit: Well, tbf. there are a few things that you can do to remove some of the bloat)

 

[BeardSpike]

Well, maybe I should finally try it out. I keep hearing good things about it. I do have an Nvidia card, though. Raytracing is not that important to me in games (and for work related stuff where I use Raytracing, I usually have my shit containerized anyway).

Try watching some Mattscreative on YT. He games on CachyOS and on Nvidia and recently RX 9070XT. Lots of cool and insightul vids about Linux gaming, including modding games and whatnot.

 

[pudel]

I'm excited because I'm about to install Linux (again, I'm an old school OS tinkerer and have decades of experience with Linux in a developer environment at work).

However, to be fair, a lot of the user interactions he demonstrated is what I already currently do in W11. I just think he enabled a "deep dive mode" for Linux that he didn't do on Windows because the OS swap inpired him to. F.ex. W11 already have shortcuts for everything, and I literally never use the W11 menu because I use Powertoys' Command Palette (v2 of Powertoys Run, and it's so fucking good), and customizations are flexible and super-easy with WindHawk, Stardock, and more (although not to the extent that you can do on Linux of course).

With that said, among other things, he's 100% right about the annoying inability to administrate bloat and background processes in Windows.

Yeah, I just looked up the hyprland thing (which he uses). Looks like some fancy tool to play around, but i am not really sure if I would ever need that. Just need some stable, snappy and fast OS which isnt spying on me constantly (ideally never), doesnt bomb me with ads and plays my games.

 

[Zathalus]

I would like to switch but until they sort out the issues with RT performance, frame generation, and DLSS then it is simply a no go for me. I'm not going to give myself a worse gaming experience to get out of dealing with Windows.

 

[keefged4]

I would like to switch but until they sort out the issues with RT performance, frame generation, and DLSS then it is simply a no go for me. I'm not going to give myself a worse gaming experience to get out of dealing with Windows.

Yup same. Every so often I install Bazzite but eventually end up going back to Windows purely because of the lack of support for things like Nvidia Profile inspector and the like. Linux as it stands, regardless of all the bloat and shiteness that Windows 11 comes with, is unfortunately an inferior experience just now. At least for me. Here's hoping they can figure the Nvidia side of things out and bring it up to par though, as soon as they do I'll jump ship.

 

[BeardSpike]

Yup same. Every so often I install Bazzite but eventually end up going back to Windows purely because of the lack of support for things like Nvidia Profile inspector and the like. Linux as it stands, regardless of all the bloat and shiteness that Windows 11 comes with, is unfortunately an inferior experience just now. At least for me. Here's hoping they can figure the Nvidia side of things out and bring it up to par though, as soon as they do I'll jump ship.

They seem to open up the drivers a bit - maybe because of AI, lot's of their consumers use Linux I presume. So maybe things will improve down the line for Nvidia bros.

As for AMD, things move so rapidly I presume by October we may have everything working, including raytracing performance and ML Upscalers.

But for now I am sticking to Win10.

But OptiScaler may have Native Linux version, I saw that Mattscreative was really into it on GitHub, even showed that it launched with Cyberpunk 2077 on his machine.

And I read that DLSS Swapper may have native Linux client soon.

Plus there is a lot of progress with HDR10+.

If they at least level the performance in raytraced games to -5% or -10% , get OptiScaler working and DLSS Swapper plus improve HDR10+ by October, it will absolutely blow my mind.

I even read, that some folks are working or will try to work on FSR4 working on RDNA3 the minute it will be running on Linux. Kinda like FSR3.5 - there is already talk they can "translate" FSR4s INT4/8 to INT8 only FP base that RDNA3 uses. Maybe it's just a rumor, or maybe it is true. Which will basically double blow my mind.

We will see.

 

[BeardSpike]

Hudo

 

[MrCunningham]

I don't believe there is one 'best' OS for Linux gaming. If you are running everything off of Steam, Steam in itself is running in a sandbox environment that is separated from the distro itself. Steam for Linux uses its own runtime environment and generally doesn't rely much on the distro's own dependencies. This is extra true, if you are running Steam through a snap or flat pak. To be honest, there aren't that many native games that run through linux. Most are just being run via a compatibility layer via wine, or dxvk. I would have to take a look at Linux compatible games that run outside of Steam.

 

[Hudo]

Hudo

Ok, that's pretty cool.

 

[Kataploom]

What's the average performance hit by running modern Steam games on Linux these days? The hit used to be significant, but idk.

Edit: Gemini tells me that some games, like f.ex. KCD2 even has a slight performance advantage on Linux. Is this typical for all new games?

Basically all my Steam games perform better in Linux and even if they had a little performance loss I think the smoothness of the frame pacing and the absolute lack of shaders compilations stuttering and any microstuttering that I tend to have on Windows is worth it. The only issues I've found is some games having graphical glitches like a billboard not loading the texture properly in Mafia Definitive Edition (mind you, I was using Heroic Launcher which isn't Steam).

I after those small glitches in a couple games I panicked and went back to Windows to test using Kena (which is my benchmark with its constant stuttering) and on Windows it was a microstuttering fest while on Linux it was completely smooth from the very beginning.

Really I'll have both systems just in case but Linux will be the main one.

 

[nemiroff]

Basically all my Steam games perform better in Linux and even if they had a little performance loss I think the smoothness of the frame pacing and the absolute lack of shaders compilations stuttering and any microstuttering that I tend to have on Windows is worth it. The only issues I've found is some games having graphical glitches like a billboard not loading the texture properly in Mafia Definitive Edition (mind you, I was using Heroic Launcher which isn't Steam).

I after those small glitches in a couple games I panicked and went back to Windows to test using Kena (which is my benchmark with its constant stuttering) and on Windows it was a microstuttering fest while on Linux it was completely smooth from the very beginning.

Really I'll have both systems just in case but Linux will be the main one.

Cool.

But excuse me for not being informed, does this also mean that if I use Steam, Ubisoft Connect, Xbox launcher (GP), Battle.net, EA launcher, and other launchers, I can basically only play my Steam games?


Edit: Gemini answered for me:

If your primary way of accessing and playing games is through those specific launchers (Xbox Game Pass, Ubisoft Connect, EA Launcher, and Battle.net), and the potential for compatibility and performance issues on Linux is a significant concern for you, then it's fair to say that using them in a "practical" and seamless way on Linux might not meet your expectations right now.

Here's a summary of why your assessment is reasonable:

• Lack of Native Support: As we discussed, none of those launchers have official, dedicated Linux versions. This immediately introduces a layer of complexity and potential instability.
• Reliance on Compatibility Layers: Using Wine or Proton can be a powerful tool, but it's not a perfect solution. It adds overhead, and compatibility is not guaranteed for all games or even the launchers themselves over time. Updates to either the launchers or the compatibility layers can sometimes break functionality.
• Potential Performance Impact: Running Windows applications through compatibility layers can sometimes lead to reduced performance compared to running them natively on Windows. This might be more noticeable in demanding games.
• Anti-Cheat Concerns: The biggest hurdle for many gamers trying to switch to Linux is often anti-cheat compatibility. Some anti-cheat systems used in popular multiplayer games on those launchers are not designed to work with Wine or Proton, effectively preventing you from playing those games on Linux.
• User Experience: Setting up and troubleshooting these launchers and games through compatibility layers can sometimes require technical knowledge and effort that might not be considered "practical" for a smooth, out-of-the-box experience.

But if anyone have a different perspective which does not involve heavy tinkering, then I'd appreciate it. If not, I think I'll postpone my Linux gaming dive, at least for a moment. Especially since some of you mentioned RT issues on Nvidia as well. If the experience is not fairly seamless, what's the point of switching. If I'm wrong however..

 

[BeardSpike]

Steps from GitHub modified for CachyOS FSR4 hack:

FSR4



Download the latest AMD driver. I am using this one which has 4.0.1 inside: https://www.techpowerup.com/download/amd-radeon-graphics-drivers/

Extract the FSR4 file from it: 7z e -r amd-software-adrenalin-edition-25.4.1-win10-win11-apr22-rdna.exe amdxcffx64.dll





Mesa



Install all the build dependencies

Download the "hack" mesa branch: wget https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/DadSchoorse/mesa/-/archive/radv-float8-hack3/mesa-radv-float8-hack3.zip
Extract the zip and go in folder: unzip mesa-radv-float8-hack3.zip && cd ./mesa-radv-float8-hack3
Install rust: sudo pacman -S rust
Setup build: meson setup build/ --prefix=/opt/mesa-fp8 -Dbuildtype=release
Build: ninja -C build
Install: sudo ninja -C build install


Proton



Download the latest fp8 build: https://github.com/Etaash-mathamsetty/wine-builds/releases/tag/fsr4

Extract it and put it in the folder with the other proton versions: /home/<user>/.steam/steam/compatibilitytools.d (change the user to your own)



OptiScaler



Follow the install instructions to install it: https://github.com/cdozdil/OptiScaler/wiki/Manual-Installation

In addition, add the amdxcffx64.dll you downloaded to the same place.





Game settings



In Steam ensure you have the following set (per game):



Compatibility: bleeding-edge-local

Launch Options: VK_ICD_FILENAMES=/opt/mesa-fp8/share/vulkan/icd.d/radeon_icd.x86_64.json mangohud %command%

If you don't use mangohud just remove it from launch options.

I just put OptiScaler like I do on Windows in for example Clair Obsur folder and run .bat file in Wine Boot Loader, then put extracted FSR4 .dll and did the Mesa hack and Proton fp8 hack install. Works like a charm, newest RC kernel on CachyOS btw.


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[Closer]

Cool.

But excuse me for not being informed, does this also mean that if I use Steam, Ubisoft Connect, Xbox launcher (GP), Battle.net, EA launcher, and other launchers, I can basically only play my Steam games?

You can play all of them using Heroic Games Launcher or Lutris.

Edit: Dunno about Xbox Launcher.

 

[Melon Husk]

I think Fedora Silverblue might be the least broken Linux experience

 

[Wolzard]

Cool.

But excuse me for not being informed, does this also mean that if I use Steam, Ubisoft Connect, Xbox launcher (GP), Battle.net, EA launcher, and other launchers, I can basically only play my Steam games?

Other launchers work normally.
For Ubisoft Connect, Battle.net, and EA Launcher, use Lutris.
For Epic Games and GOG, use Heroic.

Only the Xbox launcher has no alternative, because the games have UWP format that does not work on Linux.

About Nvidia, all the new features work: DLSS4, frame generation, reflex, ray tracing, etc. The point is that in DX12, games have a performance loss (around 10%) and in RT, the loss varies between 10 and 40% (like Black Myth Wukong in Path Tracing). Proton developers reported that this is something in the Nvidia driver, but since it is a black box (closed source), they have no idea what it is. Nvidia recently became aware of this and published Bug #5131298 for follow-up.

DirectX12 performance is terrible on Linux

DirectX 12 games ran through Proton/Wine on Linux perform so much worse compared to Windows. This can’t be just the overhead from the translation as AMD GPUs perform just fine, but I think it’s due to a lack of proper driver optimizations. DXVK and VKD3D developers have acknowledged this and...

forums.developer.nvidia.com

 

[nemiroff]

You can play all of them using Heroic Games Launcher or Lutris.

Edit: Dunno about Xbox Launcher.

Other launchers work normally.
For Ubisoft Connect, Battle.net, and EA Launcher, use Lutris.
For Epic Games and GOG, use Heroic.

Only the Xbox launcher has no alternative, because the games have UWP format that does not work on Linux.

About Nvidia, all the new features work: DLSS4, frame generation, reflex, ray tracing, etc. The point is that in DX12, games have a performance loss (around 10%) and in RT, the loss varies between 10 and 40% (like Black Myth Wukong in Path Tracing). Proton developers reported that this is something in the Nvidia driver, but since it is a black box (closed source), they have no idea what it is. Nvidia recently became aware of this and published Bug #5131298 for follow-up.

DirectX12 performance is terrible on Linux

DirectX 12 games ran through Proton/Wine on Linux perform so much worse compared to Windows. This can’t be just the overhead from the translation as AMD GPUs perform just fine, but I think it’s due to a lack of proper driver optimizations. DXVK and VKD3D developers have acknowledged this and...

forums.developer.nvidia.com

Oh, ok. Well that's nice to hear. I think that's enough info for me to be convinced and take a dive into it then. Cool. Appreciate the replies, guys.

 

[BeardSpike]

Oh, ok. Well that's nice to hear. I think that's enough info for me to be convinced and take a dive into it then. Cool. Appreciate the replies, guys.

Played yesterday Clair Obscur on CachyOS with FSR4, mostly 80-100+ fps, with ocasional drops to 70s.

All of my controllers work.

Haven't have had any issues whatsoever.

GPU Screen Recorder, has similar red overlay to AMD Adrenalin - I can choose AV1 hardware accelerated replay buffer recording on GPU .

 

[Hudo]

I think Fedora Silverblue might be the least broken Linux experience

I like Silverblue quite a lot. But for anything that's not a Flatpak, you'd need to fiddle around with DistroBox and make it launchable there. It's not really a big problem, but for the normal end user, I don't think that's a good fit.

 

[Melon Husk]

I like Silverblue quite a lot. But for anything that's not a Flatpak, you'd need to fiddle around with DistroBox and make it launchable there. It's not really a big problem, but for the normal end user, I don't think that's a good fit.

Why would you want to use anything but Flatpak?