Damn, well. maybe it will ship sooner.. I can still work on the software w/o it though in the meantime. Thank you.
Hmm. Yeah..
You order one?
Oculus Rift Development Kit 2 announced, up for preorder (based on Crystal Cove)
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Damn, well. maybe it will ship sooner.. I can still work on the software w/o it though in the meantime. Thank you.
Hmm. Yeah..
You order one?
Hell yes I did, the moment they announced the DK2 lol. I've gotten so much enjoyment out of the DK1 this past year, and most of the content was free. I'll probably be biting on every iteration they release going forward.
The wait for this shouldn't be as bad as DK1. First those were delayed from December to March. Then the rollout was excruciatingly slow to those that didn't order during the kickstarter like me. It was a really small operation they had back then, making only a couple hundred units a day. Finally my unit "shipped" in June of last year but it ended up being a part of the big US batch that got held up in customs for 3 weeks. It was a nightmare. Didn't get my hands on it til July but it was worth it in the end of course.
This time it should be a bit quicker, but not knowing when it will actually ship week after week can get disheartening. People will try to track order numbers and shipments together but you can't really be sure until you get the notification yourself.
DunderHassan
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*too late, quoted from old page*
I hope that rumor about the DK2 release is legit. I'd certainly take mid July over late July...
There is two solutions, one is use contact lenses and other one don't know it is possible in consumer version is to get prescription lenses replace the circle lenses but check out this thread. https://developer.oculusvr.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=8128
It seems like impressions from the E3 floor are saying that DK2 leaves more room for glasses.
Here's one impression. Asked him in the comments below the video about glasses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEDdOFTN6P4
His response; "I wore my glasses during Lucky's Tale and it was great. I took them off for EVE Valkyrie and had no vision issues. However my eyesight isn't poor at all and my glasses are there for astigmatism."
Well, doesn't sound great:
So it's not about the lenses, it's about the distance. And you decrease the FoV that way.
You've ALWAYS been able to use it with glasses. The only problem is that you are cutting off some potential FOV by putting more space between your eyes and the lenses.
On the Order page it says August...
They did say previously that they are ready for production on a larger/more quick scale than DK1, so I don't believe any orders will be delayed for months this time around.
Astral/H3X
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Can someone explain HOW this thing needs glasses, at least for nearsighted people? I thought that near/farsightedness was a function of your eye's focus, which is something that -one- eye can do, thus unrelated to stereovision. Shouldn't your eyesight be identical to just having an object nearby?
In simple terms, the optics in the Rift are designed to make the screen (and thus content) appear to be much further away for the purpose of focusing your eyes. If you had to focus your eyes on a screen right in front of your head for a long time, that would be uncomfortable at best and detrimental at worst.
This way, it's actually more relaxing than looking at a normal screen or TV.
Graphics Horse
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Basically the lenses in the display bend the light so it comes towards your eyes in the same directions as it would if it was projected from far away.
You might be able to put in custom lenses that correct for nearsightedness without glasses, but obviously it would need a different pair for each person.
The optics in the rift are focused to infinity, so that your brain thinks you're looking at things that are far away instead of a screen which is only an inch away from your eyes.
Fried Food
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so if your nearsighted you will need to use your glasses / contacts?
I have a 7950 3GB which should be ok for some games in 1080p on the DK2, but I think will struggle with a 1440p screen at 90Hz.
That is making me tempted to jump onto a DK2 - and then when the consumer version is released I can possibly wait until I can upgrade my PC.
What kind of card would you need to run eg current games decently on a CV1?
That is making me tempted to jump onto a DK2 - and then when the consumer version is released I can possibly wait until I can upgrade my PC.
What kind of card would you need to run eg current games decently on a CV1?
Astral/H3X
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Hrm. Okay. So its not that my eyes need to adjust focus per object, per distance, they just need to be permanently adjusted.
That's.... Somewhat annoying. Oh well.
EDIT: As for above it would be much better to wait until the CV1, because well have better cheaper cards more suitable for that.
That's.... Somewhat annoying. Oh well.
EDIT: As for above it would be much better to wait until the CV1, because well have better cheaper cards more suitable for that.
but I already have a 7950 which should be ok for the DK2 right? Was pretty good with DK1
Yep, or the supplied lenses for short sightedness (but you lose a bit of FOV with them).
Personally, my eye sight isn't too terrible, so when I had my DK1 I would just use the standard lenses without my glasses.
Most people are able to fit their glasses in the oculus rift fine using either the A or B lens cups fine. My glasses don't fit comfortably.
If you're farsighted you'll be pretty much in the clear because the rift is focused at infinity.
Near sighted people will use mostly the B or C lens cups making it almost as if you were wearing your glasses.
Astigmatism is where you get in trouble. I have an astigmatism so I either deal with it or wear my contacts. My frames are just a little shy of fitting in the rift comfortably.
I'm really happy I started using contact lenses regularly a year or so before the Rift kickstarter. Since I also have astigmatism I'd have to use glasses otherwise, and I didn't find that very comfortable with DK1.
Astral/H3X
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Okay, so I ordered the dk2 on day one, and am looking forward to its arrival. I have a Razer Hydra ready, and was wondering what the best games were for this? Really interested in ones that do take advantage of the Hydra.
I know Half Life 2 is one (with the use of a mod, I've heard), does Garrys Mod support it?
I know Half Life 2 is one (with the use of a mod, I've heard), does Garrys Mod support it?
Because the rift has lenses in it too. As far as your eyes are concerned, that screen is miles away.
Betta Lines
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Because the optics are designed to make your eyes converge/focus towards infinity. If they made you actually look at the screen an inch from your face, the eye strain would be unbearable.
You look at stuff in the Rift (basically) the same way as you do in real life - so if you can't see things clearly in the distance in reality, the Rift screen is going to be unclear too.
Tested just put out their usual hands-on Oculus Rift interview video up, full of good info as always. Nate says they intend to ship 20-30k of the 40k pre-ordered DK2 units in July, so yea it looks like this rollout should be a lot faster than DK1.
Link to Tested Interview w/ Nate for those interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcFQ5sQIwRs
the cost thing confuses me. I get the idea of wanting scale, but the initial audience is going to be people with gaming PCs - high end stuff. Those people are more likely to be able to afford a higher cost peripheral and not be so price sensitive.
The bigger question isn't 'how many more will they sell at $199 Vs $299', its 'how many people realise they'll need close to $1000 invested in a computer to drive meaningful content at decent quality.
The bigger question isn't 'how many more will they sell at $199 Vs $299', its 'how many people realise they'll need close to $1000 invested in a computer to drive meaningful content at decent quality.
What cost thing?
Well shit, I think I'll be cancelling my order, thanks for the answers.
already posted it in the other rift thread, here again:
http://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/27xwdi/brendan_iribe_we_do_have_the_consumer_prototype/
So what we know about CV1: Higher res than 1080p, more than 75hz, higher fov than DK2 and alot less weight than DK2
edit: oh a Platform engineer from Oculus posted there, his comment
http://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/27xwdi/brendan_iribe_we_do_have_the_consumer_prototype/
Iribe said:
So what we know about CV1: Higher res than 1080p, more than 75hz, higher fov than DK2 and alot less weight than DK2
edit: oh a Platform engineer from Oculus posted there, his comment
Try it anyway dude. I have a dioptre of -1.5 and will try it out. You can sell it for a higher price afterwards on Ebay.
They emphasise bringing it in 'at cost' or at a low cost - yet they're going to want people to have a 780Ti to run it well enough. It is covered in the interview with Tested to a degree and they recognise that it is a challenge.
The Hermit
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I think it´ll cost about 250-350.
I doubt it´ll be much more than that, otherwise it won't set the world on fire like they expect
I doubt it´ll be much more than that, otherwise it won't set the world on fire like they expect
already posted it in the other rift thread, here again:
http://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/27xwdi/brendan_iribe_we_do_have_the_consumer_prototype/
So what we know about CV1: Higher res than 1080p, more than 75hz, higher fov than DK2 and alot less weight than DK2
edit: oh a Platform engineer from Oculus posted there, his comment
DK2 will be a nice stopgap to that piece of amazing hardware.
Irobot82
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What's the problem with astigmatism and the OR?
I'm gonna make a water lens mod or something lol
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2008/dec/22/diy-adjustable-glasses-josh-silver
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2008/dec/22/diy-adjustable-glasses-josh-silver
If the Oculus and VR really take off with the mainstream public, won't it just force Nvidia/AMD to step it up and come up with the next leap in video card tech than today's products to match that huge consumer demand, while simultaneously driving down video card prices because the market will grow so immensely?
ss_lemonade
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I'm nearsighted with 0 problems viewing things up close but I still had a blurry time when using the 1080p(?) kit at PAX last year. Now I'm not sure if it just wasn't calibrated right for my eyes due to how fast things were moving there to get everyone in line to try it out but I did have a hard time focusing on objects and things overall were just a bit too blurred out for me
googleplex
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Oculus should also put out a minimum spec recommendation to run the thing.
How, with what settings and with what applications?
Am I misinterpreting this, or does this suggest that running a game for DK2 (1080p containing two half-resolution viewports) is no more demanding than running a game normally (a single 1080p viewport)?
I think they are suggesting that 60fps is the minimum recommended frame-rate. It's been estimated that the overhead of the stereo output is between 10 and 20%. This depends on the game, so it's impossible to give any more accurate a number.
By recommending the PC can achieve 75fps for current games, I believe they are trying to guarantee the system can maintain 60fps, as 75fps is a 25% increase in performance over 60fps.