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RetroStu

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Is Halo 2 Anniversary 1080p confirmed now? This is what 343i were saying a few days ago:



http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-06-12-halo-the-master-chief-collection-is-pure-fan-service

Thats strange, i watched 3 presentations from 343 on various E3 streams and they said that all the games would be 1080p/60fps on all 3 streams. Weird.

Edit. That b-roll footage of Halo 2 Anniversary that someone posted on here also ran at 1080p i'm pretty sure, it filled up my 1080p screen anyway.
 

-PXG-

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Man. Imagine if they added Mythic as an actual difficulty instead of doing it in a makeshift way with skulls. I would love that.
 

Eoin

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Thats strange, i watched 3 presentations from 343 on various E3 streams and they said that all the games would be 1080p/60fps on all 3 streams. Weird.

Edit. That b-roll footage of Halo 2 Anniversary that someone posted on here also ran at 1080p i'm pretty sure, it filled up my 1080p screen anyway.
Well the multi will be 1080p I'm sure, it's just the Halo 2 Anniversary campaign, with the duel frame buffers they're not sure they can hit 1080p on. The footage they showed was probably upscaled which is why it would fill your screen, we are talking native res.
 

BeforeU

Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
what the hell you guys talking about. What part of EVERY GAME is 1080p/60fps is unclear? why wouldn't Halo 2 be 1080p/60fps
 

OverHeat

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Well the multi will be 1080p I'm sure, it's just the Halo 2 Anniversary campaign, with the duel frame buffers they're not sure they can hit 1080p on. The footage they showed was probably upscaled which is why it would fill your screen, we are talking native res.
Where did you get your info from?
 

Falagard

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what the hell you guys talking about. What part of EVERY GAME is 1080p/60fps is unclear? why wouldn't Halo 2 be 1080p/60fps

They are having problems hitting 1080p 60fps for halo 2 anniversary campaign. Even though they are also saying in interviews all will be 1080p.

They are aiming for it but who knows
 

OverHeat

« generous god »
They are having problems hitting 1080p 60fps for halo 2 anniversary campaign. Even though they are also saying in interviews all will be 1080p.

They are aiming for it but who knows
Get the on the fly engine switch out of here if your having trouble hitting 1080p 343i!
 

Eoin

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Where did you get your info from?
I believe they talked about it in the Polygon interview, it was one of those sit down ones anyway. It's also touched upon in the Eurogamer write up from the last page. As for assuming Halo 2 multi will be 1080p there is no reason for it not to as it's just running the original graphics.
 

DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
All that was said was the anniversary campaign for halo 2 may not be 1080p60 as they are running 2 framebuffers simultaneously (for instant switching)

Probably pushing memory bandwidth too hard... i don't think anyone else found the fade annoying in CEA which is the obv solution
 

DJ Gunner

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I don't at all get why campaign switching might be a more important target than 1080p. It's neat, cool to do a couple times, but are people really frothing at the mouth for "instant switching" at any moment?

Much rather have 1080p and a rock solid framerate than switching ability.
 

Madness

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Same I agree. You'll probably do it a handful of times at best. Especially early on. Who is going to be switching in subsequent run-throughs as well?

Having the target at 1080p resolution at 60FPS is more important than lag free switching. Especially for the newer remake, it would be ridiculous not to have it hit 1080p since you're trying to wow people with the remaster.
 

danwarb

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I don't at all get why campaign switching might be a more important target than 1080p. It's neat, cool to do a couple times, but are people really frothing at the mouth for "instant switching" at any moment?

Much rather have 1080p and a rock solid framerate than switching ability.

Especially for Halo 2. I didn't like the original look of the game though, it was too noisy after the clean and sharp original.
 

Toa TAK

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I don't at all get why campaign switching might be a more important target than 1080p. It's neat, cool to do a couple times, but are people really frothing at the mouth for "instant switching" at any moment?

Much rather have 1080p and a rock solid framerate than switching ability.
You've got to appreciate what came before to appreciate what they did now.

Plus, it's really for the new players of Halo as much as it is for us who grew up with it.
 

Spartan3PC

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In case Frankie is lurking the thread right now, I've a friend who has a question about H2A legendary difficulty. My friend is worried that people will use the bandana skull (infinite ammo/grenades) to help them beat legendary, like many people did in CEA.

Basically he wants the achievement to only unlock if you've beaten the game legitimately. Not with the assist of the bandana skull.

Clarification would be much appreciated.
 

Toa TAK

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In case Frankie is lurking the thread right now, I've a friend who has a question about H2A legendary difficulty. My friend is worried that people will use the bandana skull (infinite ammo/grenades) to help them beat legendary, like many people did in CEA.

Basically he wants the achievement to only unlock if you've beaten the game legitimately. Not with the assist of the bandana skull.

Clarification would be much appreciated.

=(

I like the bandana skull.
 
In case Frankie is lurking the thread right now, I've a friend who has a question about H2A legendary difficulty. My friend is worried that people will use the bandana skull (infinite ammo/grenades) to help them beat legendary, like many people did in CEA.

Basically he wants the achievement to only unlock if you've beaten the game legitimately. Not with the assist of the bandana skull.

Clarification would be much appreciated.

I hope there are cheats like the bandana skull so it's easier to beat Halo 2 Legendary, cause otherwise I won't be able to do it.

There's nothing preventing your friend from trying it without the bandana skull.
 

Toa TAK

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Halo 2's Legendary was the hardest one for me. I couldn't beat it.

Especially since the other Halos, including CE, were easier on Legendary.
 

danwarb

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In case Frankie is lurking the thread right now, I've a friend who has a question about H2A legendary difficulty. My friend is worried that people will use the bandana skull (infinite ammo/grenades) to help them beat legendary, like many people did in CEA.

Basically he wants the achievement to only unlock if you've beaten the game legitimately. Not with the assist of the bandana skull.

Clarification would be much appreciated.
I have a question on that. Will we be able to play Halo 2 legendary co-op without the one dies both die mechanic? Heroic was too easy, but legendary too frustrating to play with someone who doesn't want to replay the same encounter 100 times.

I am aware. The picture has a label right at the top stating exactly that, and the link is to a very detailed write up. I'm not sure you read my question correctly. Neither did the poster I originally responded to, apparently.
Sorry again, I failed to notice it was you who posted the comparison.
 

DJ Gunner

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You've got to appreciate what came before to appreciate what they did now.

Plus, it's really for the new players of Halo as much as it is for us who grew up with it.

So use a fadeout. Hell, take us to a loading screen. I get why it's a cool feature, I just think 1080p/60fps is more important.
 

RetroStu

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Same I agree. You'll probably do it a handful of times at best. Especially early on. Who is going to be switching in subsequent run-throughs as well?

Having the target at 1080p resolution at 60FPS is more important than lag free switching. Especially for the newer remake, it would be ridiculous not to have it hit 1080p since you're trying to wow people with the remaster.

If that really is the problem then there is no way they will sacrifice 1080p just to have an instant switch between both versions lol.
You lot had me going for a minute.
 

Naked Lunch

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So I keep hearing that theater mode only works in H3/4. Does that mean you will only be able to record films of online multiplayer from only a fraction of the online games? That is going to suck.
 

LEMONS

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In case Frankie is lurking the thread right now, I've a friend who has a question about H2A legendary difficulty. My friend is worried that people will use the bandana skull (infinite ammo/grenades) to help them beat legendary, like many people did in CEA.

Basically he wants the achievement to only unlock if you've beaten the game legitimately. Not with the assist of the bandana skull.

Clarification would be much appreciated.
I am that friend. To everyone against the motion: You should be allowed to use the skull to beat the game on Legendary if you wish BUT you absolutely do not deserve to unlock the achievement for doing so. Halo 2 Legendary is a ball breaking experience from start to finish and you will just be picking up a fuel rod gun and dancing through it with infinite ammo and grenades while everyone else suffers. And you'd like to unlock the achievement at the expense of everyone who has put in RIDICULOUS time and effort to conquer legendary? For shame.

I sincerely hope someone at 343 sees reason and decides that the Bandana skull should disable the Legendary achievement because you will not have beaten Legendary. You'll have beaten a pseudo-Legendary cakewalk. Just because you struggle with it does not give you the right to take away the just reward that real players deserve.

Phew. Sorry for the rant but I feel this is important. The CEA Legendary achievement was rendered worthless by Bandana and I'll be so disappointed if it happens again.
 
I am that friend. To everyone against the motion: You should be allowed to use the skull to beat the game on Legendary if you wish BUT you absolutely do not deserve to unlock the achievement for doing so.
Sure I do. Halo 2's Legendary, from Bungie on down, is known to be inherently, poorly designed. That's why I don't have a problem with using the bandana skull.
 
I am that friend. To everyone against the motion: You should be allowed to use the skull to beat the game on Legendary if you wish BUT you absolutely do not deserve to unlock the achievement for doing so. Halo 2 Legendary is a ball breaking experience from start to finish and you will just be picking up a fuel rod gun and dancing through it with infinite ammo and grenades while everyone else suffers. And you'd like to unlock the achievement at the expense of everyone who has put in RIDICULOUS time and effort to conquer legendary? For shame.

I sincerely hope someone at 343 sees reason and decides that the Bandana skull should disable the Legendary achievement because you will not have beaten Legendary. You'll have beaten a pseudo-Legendary cakewalk. Just because you struggle with it does not give you the right to take away the just reward that real players deserve.

Phew. Sorry for the rant but I feel this is important. The CEA Legendary achievement was rendered worthless by Bandana and I'll be so disappointed if it happens again.

Yeah, and if you really want the Legendary Achievement but aren't good enough I'm sure you can find someone who will help you, I know I helped people with the 360 era games.
I got the Legendary achievement in Halo 2 Vista by myself and it was awesome, I might actually do Legendary solo again.
 
Yeah, and if you really want the Legendary Achievement but aren't good enough I'm sure you can find someone who will help you, I know I helped people with the 360 era games.
I got the Legendary achievement in Halo 2 Vista by myself and it was awesome, I might actually do Legendary solo again.
What's the difference in using a bandana skull to help you beat Halo 2 Legendary and asking someone for help?
 
What's the difference in using a bandana skull to help you beat Halo 2 Legendary and asking someone for help?

Because if someone is helping you are still both playing Legendary and there is still a challenge and you will still both earn the achievement. When I say get someone to help I don't mean get someone to do it for you while you sit in the back and wait for an area to be cleared.
 

Onikaan

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I hope there are cheats like the bandana skull so it's easier to beat Halo 2 Legendary, cause otherwise I won't be able to do it.

There's nothing preventing your friend from trying it without the bandana skull.

Halo 2's Legendary was the hardest one for me. I couldn't beat it.

Especially since the other Halos, including CE, were easier on Legendary.

But that feeling when you do!
 
In case Frankie is lurking the thread right now, I've a friend who has a question about H2A legendary difficulty. My friend is worried that people will use the bandana skull (infinite ammo/grenades) to help them beat legendary, like many people did in CEA.

Basically he wants the achievement to only unlock if you've beaten the game legitimately. Not with the assist of the bandana skull.

Clarification would be much appreciated.

Your friend sounds like a sad, sad person who spends time worrying about how other people are getting achievements.

Tell him we were all laughing at him. :D
 

RoKKeR

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What is going on in here? Now there is doubt about the games being 1080/60 or something? Haven't they said this on multiple occasions?

Edit: Just read the quote on the last page. Weird...

These should all be 1080p, they'd be facing a shit storm if they aren't.
 

Madness

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I am that friend. To everyone against the motion: You should be allowed to use the skull to beat the game on Legendary if you wish BUT you absolutely do not deserve to unlock the achievement for doing so. Halo 2 Legendary is a ball breaking experience from start to finish and you will just be picking up a fuel rod gun and dancing through it with infinite ammo and grenades while everyone else suffers. And you'd like to unlock the achievement at the expense of everyone who has put in RIDICULOUS time and effort to conquer legendary? For shame.

I sincerely hope someone at 343 sees reason and decides that the Bandana skull should disable the Legendary achievement because you will not have beaten Legendary. You'll have beaten a pseudo-Legendary cakewalk. Just because you struggle with it does not give you the right to take away the just reward that real players deserve.

Phew. Sorry for the rant but I feel this is important. The CEA Legendary achievement was rendered worthless by Bandana and I'll be so disappointed if it happens again.

Pretty ridiculous to get worked up over something that really has no bearing on you or your life no? What difference does it make to you if someone uses the skull to beat Halo 2 Legendary and get the achievement and you didn't use it? Who cares? Or you need the public validation that you did it without it? I mean you'd know you did it without the skull no?

I've beaten the Halo 2 campaign on legendary twice when it was originally out. There is no way in hell I would want to go through it again, I just don't have the patience anymore. If I can do it with some skulls that not only make it easier and more fun, I will. I'd also rather not miss out on an achievement because some random guy I don't know feels it would lessen the achievement to him. As if the millions of times achievements have been hacked, glitched, boosted ever mattered before.

I got most of the ranked lone wolves Halo 3 achievements myself within days of launch and hours of playing, there is no way I'll go for those again either and this time will love to find a way to boost them all.

If I can't turn off achievements altogether, I'd rather boost them or get them as easily as possible.
 

LEMONS

Neo Member
Your friend sounds like a sad, sad person who spends time worrying about how other people are getting achievements.

Tell him we were all laughing at him. :D
Why tell him what to do when you could say it to my metaphorical online face?

I spend time worrying about how the MCC will turn out just like everyone else here. I don't call you sad people. I also care a lot about people getting the recognition they deserve for accomplishing things even in the gaming world, even if it means going against the mainstream entitlement complex held by gamers like Dax01 here.
 

RetroStu

Banned
What is going on in here? Now there is doubt about the games being 1080/60 or something? Haven't they said this on multiple occasions?

Edit: Just read the quote on the last page. Weird...

These should all be 1080p, they'd be facing a shit storm if they aren't.

I know this was the first i had heard of it. I had seen the 343 guys say they ALL were 1080p/60fps, in fact i'm pretty sure one of them says Halo 2 is 1080p in the IGN stream.
 
Why tell him what to do when you could say it to my metaphorical online face?

I spend time worrying about how the MCC will turn out just like everyone else here. I don't call you sad people. I also care a lot about people getting the recognition they deserve for accomplishing things even in the gaming world, even if it means going against the mainstream entitlement complex held by gamers like Dax01 here.

Okay, maybe this should just stop before it turns into a monkey shit fight.
 

LEMONS

Neo Member
Pretty ridiculous to get worked up over something that really has no bearing on you or your life no? What difference does it make to you if someone uses the skull to beat Halo 2 Legendary and get the achievement and you didn't use it? Who cares? Or you need the public validation that you did it without it? I mean you'd know you did it without the skull no?
How is it any more "ridiculous" than being concerned about whether the next Halo game will be 60fps or 1080p or whatever? Last I checked, people like to get rewarded appropriately for the things they do.
What difference does it make? Everyone who worked their ass off to finally conquer Halo 2 Legendary can enjoy getting their well earned achievement safe in the knowledge that others will have to go through the same torment to get it. If your apathetic attitude were applied to this then why not just throw in an invincibility cheat while we're at it and then unlock the Legendary achievement with that too? Why not?
The point you're missing here is that you could still do Legendary with your infinite ammo and whatnot. The official recognition (achievement) would be reserved for those who did it the "real" way for lack of a better term.
Public validation is what achievments are all about. Being able to show your friends that you did some brutally hard stuff in some games.
Who cares? Gamers who don't feel entitled to things they don't deserve care.
 

E92 M3

Member
What's the difference in using a bandana skull to help you beat Halo 2 Legendary and asking someone for help?

Exactly, it's easier to co-op Legendary than soloing with Bandana Skull. I never used it, but it would be rather illogical to allow co-op (easy mode) and not allow the skull.
 

LEMONS

Neo Member
Exactly, it's easier to co-op Legendary than soloing with Bandana Skull.
Except Halo 2 Legendary co-op plays the same way as having the Iron skull on in Halo 3 onwards. One of you dies and it's back to the last checkpoint.

Even still. Just add a Legendary Solo achievement like the recent Halo games have done and this is a non-issue.
 

Sordid

Member
How is it any more "ridiculous" than being concerned about whether the next Halo game will be 60fps or 1080p or whatever?

Framerate directly affects the gameplay experience, it's far more important than your achievement list (which, likely, no-one cares about but you). 1080p isn't essential but higher resolutions are always welcome, a 1080p resolution would mean a perfect fit for 1080p tv's which means no scaling and a sharper image... again imo it's far more important than how legitimate you think certain achievements are.
 
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