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[Tom Penny]

the "super-team" era=the NBA's entire existence

For some reason people think the word parity and NBA go together.

 

[PhoenixDark]

Replace Wade with Melo and the Heat are back on top. Easy.

Not without a PG and young shooters. They don't need one player, they need multiple. Role players. Guys who can shoot, and guys who aren't fucking idiots (Chalmers, who is auditioning for the Smush Parker Liability Award).

 

[Mortemis]

I don't think this series is all that indicative of his whole career. Yeah I doubt people will be saying he's the GOAT after he's done playing but this series doesn't shit on his legacy that much.

He had a pathetic team that couldn't do shit without him facing a team thats playing some of the best ball I've seen in a while.

But I gotta agree, 2 for 5 sounds horrible. Yikes.

 

[TheKaeptain]

Lebron probably wouldn't have a ring if he played in the west.

 

[RoKKeR]

Absolutely not, the dude hardly has a team to work with and the Spurs were dominant this year.

Still the best player of the generation and has turned around his douche-baggery in recent years. (though it's still not great)

 

[benjipwns]

Hope this is the end of the NBA super-team era. Basketball will be a lot more fun to watch if all the top FAs don't flock to one fucking team again.

Yeah, that was some super-team through free agency era...

You had the Heat and...well the Knicks won 54 games a year ago I guess...

 

[HerbertFish]

Absolutely not, the dude hardly has a team to work with and the Spurs were dominant this year.

Still the best player of the generation and has turned around his douche-baggery in recent years. (though it's still not great)

Duncan? Kobe? Or are we saying they're a past gen?

 

[MarauderShields]

People should be celebrating the Spurs not talking about the scrub Heat and how Lebron has no help because he was good for one quarter a game.

 

[agrajag]

Lebron probably wouldn't have a ring if he played in the west.

What does that even mean? Would he be playing by himself in the west? Put him in any playoff team on the west and they're an instant championship contender.

 

[Derwind]

He had a pathetic team that couldn't do shit without him facing a team thats playing some of the best ball I've seen.

We're talking about the Heat right? It reads like a post when he was on the Cavs.

The Heat are a fine enough, in that they took him to the finals every year so far and won 2 chips with him.

Shit happens.

People should be celebrating the Spurs not talking about the scrub Heat and how Lebron has no help because he was good for one quarter a game.

Also this right here.

 

[Lebron]

But I gotta agree, 2 for 5 sounds horrible. Yikes.

Still better than winning 0. Plenty of retired dudes who wish they had at least 1.

*cough* Karl Malone and John Stockton *cough*

 

[No Love]

What does that even mean? Would he be playing by himself in the west? Put him in any playoff team on the west and they're an instant championship contender.

Agreed. Lakers need Lebron. If they had Lebron, they'd come back something fierce.

 

[Lebron]

What does that even mean? Would he be playing by himself in the west? Put him in any playoff team on the west and they're an instant championship contender.

He's coming here to Houston.


Believe.

 

[jakefromstatefarm]

Not without a PG and young shooters. They don't need one player, they need multiple. Role players. Guys who can shoot, and guys who aren't fucking idiots (Chalmers, who is auditioning for the Smush Parker Liability Award).

You gotta love how Spo completely abandoned Chalmers tonight in favor of starting Wade at PG, a guy who himself proved to be a complete liability this series.

 

[Jay Shadow]

I like watching the Heat lose as much as anyone, but the only finals loss I'd put on LeBron was the loss to the Mavericks.

 

[Mortemis]

We're talking about the Heat right? It reads like a post when he was on the Cavs.

The Heat are a fine enough, in that they took him to the finals every year so far and won 2 chips with him.

Shit happens.

Right, went a bit on the hyperbole end there. His team may have gotten him there, but they certainly didn't perform well during the finals. They didn't do much to help him out, especially game 4.

 

[Data West]

People should be celebrating the Spurs not talking about the scrub Heat and how Lebron has no help because he was good for one quarter a game.

Unfortunately, that's not how these kind of exhibitions go when you've got the 'face of the NBA' in them.

 

[Ragingbegal]

Jordan's Bulls didn't have to compete against an all time great coach and three hall of famers. Jordan nostalgia is the worst.

Jerry Salon isn't an all-time great coach?

 

[MagicWithEarvin]

What does that even mean? Would he be playing by himself in the west? Put him in any playoff team on the west and they're an instant championship contender.

Agreed.

The Warriors, Trailblazers and Clippers would be scary if they had Lebron.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

Still better than winning 0. Plenty of retired dudes who wish they had at least 1.

*cough* Karl Malone and John Stockton *cough*

 

[Onemic]

He's 2 - 5 actually....

And just as I thought, LBJ fans saying the dude needs more help. Lets give him Chris Paul as a point guard, Dwight as the center, Jamal Crawford as the sixth man... Maybe he'll have enough help then?

 

[Lambda Pie]

i hear so much hype about this LeBron guy and the Heat team. first time i actually saw them play and they get bodied. finals weren't even close. what a disappointment.

 

[ZoddGutts]

He's coming here to Houston.


Believe.

A mediocre team that couldn't even get past first round. lol

 

[MagicWithEarvin]

He's coming here to Houston.


Believe.

Lebron - Harden - Dwight

They already won

 

[benjipwns]

the "super-team" era=the NBA's entire existence

What are you talking about? The Minneapolis Lakers only had Mikan, Mikkelsen and Martin/Pollard. The 1960's Celtics only had Russell, Sam Jones, Cousy, Havlicek, Heinsohn, Ramsey, Sharman... The 1967 Sixers only had Wilt, Cunningham, Greer, Chet Walker. The 1970's Lakers only had Wilt, West, Baylor and Goodrich. 1970's Bucks had Kareem, Oscar, Dandridge. The 1980's Lakers only had Kareem, Magic, Worthy, Cooper/Scott/Green. The 1980's Celtics only had Bird, McHale, Parish. The 1983 Sixers only had Erving, Malone, Jones, Cheeks, Toney. The 2008 Celtics only had KG, Allen, Pierce, Rondo. 2000/2010's Spurs only had Duncan, Robinson, Manu, Parker, Leonard, Jackie Butler.

None of those lineups can compare to LeBron, Wade, Bosh and Chalmers!

 

[TestMonkey]

Still better than winning 0. Plenty of retired dudes who wish they had at least 1.

*cough* Karl Malone and John Stockton *cough*

Also Charles Barkley and Patrick Ewing.

 

[Mortemis]

Agreed.

The Warriors, Trailblazers and Clippers would be scary if they had Lebron.

A bunch of teams in the west are one all-star away from being monsters.

 

[agrajag]

Agreed.

The Warriors, Trailblazers and Clippers would be scary if they had Lebron.

I think any of these three teams, maybe Portland less so, would be champions with LeBron this year.

 

[B!TCH]

Is this necessary, friend? All I see is rational discussion.

It's rational to presume that the NBA is/was rigged??

Come on, son.

 

[Blablurn]

Hes still the best. Screw the haters. Lebrooooooon.

 

[GoutPatrol]

Lebron just needs help. Playing with 2 of the top 5 players in his draft class/2 of the top 20 players in the league, the greatest shooter of all time/future HOF (who actually won him the ring last year), and several quality bench players custom-picked for/by him was not enough.

He can't do it alone, you know. Wade isn't a generational talent, and Bosh is not an all-star/franchise talent; he's just a stretch forward, and not specifically because of the Heat system.

Lebron needs more all-stars.

No one does it alone. Wade is washed up, and Bosh played medicore.

 

[friskykillface]

:'( T-Mac god

 

[Booshka]

Warriors with Lebron would be unreal. That backcourt with Lebron?

 

[wedward]

Doesn't change my opinion of him at all, he can't win a championship himself.

Who can?

 

[Lebron]

A mediocre team that couldn't even get past first round. lol

Lin is getting dropped, Lebron will enter. Harden is training in the hyperbolic time chamber to master SSJ4. Balance shall be restored.

Lebron - Harden - Dwight

They already won

Clutch City 2.0

Poor T-MAC

 

[Iamwolfthing]

Agreed.

The Warriors, Trailblazers and Clippers would be scary if they had Lebron.

Oh god please make this happen.

 

[Espi]

this should be more about the 5pur5 and less about LeBron.

but of course the same people that cry "ESPN ONLY TALKS ABOUT LEBRON!" are the same ones that talk about LeBron themselves

 

[OriginalNameGuy]

Bron Bron had a top 50 player + the greatest 3-point shooter in history + 7 foot center with a jump shot + solid supporting cast and he still got his ass kicked.

D Wade- 11 points tonight. 3-13 from the floor in game 4
Mario Chalmers- 25% shooting for the series.
Bosh- 13 and 7(0-5 from three)
Ray Allen- 5 points tonight and repeatedly chased off the three point line in the series.
Lebron- 31-10-5

Lebron's fault.

 

[Kurt Angle]

poor bron bron

give him the decision part 2 where he can put together a few more ring chasers and get back to .500 in the finals

 

[ThatCrazyGuy]

Who can?

Only the black mamba can win 1 on 5.

 

[Gigglepoo]

So he's the Peyton Manning of basketball right?

Nope. Peyton played lousy in his two losses and tons of other playoff games. LeBron is incredible in the playoffs.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Jordan's Bulls didn't have to compete against an all time great coach and three hall of famers. Jordan nostalgia is the worst.

Lakers 91 magic, worthy, divac
Suns 93 Barkley, KJ, ainge
Magic 96. Penny, shaq
Pistons 91 Isaiah, rodman, dumars

Jordan scored 63 points against what I consider the 2nd best team of all time. 86 celtics


I hope this spurs win signals a return to old school basketball. I loved the offense these guys ran. Amazing to watch.

 

[MagicWithEarvin]

Oh god please make this happen.

Splash Bros +Motivated Iggy + Prime Lebron + Healthy Bogut

Best backcourt in da lee

They got dis

 

[Fjordson]

Doesn't change my perception. Always knew he was not a top player of all time. Top 10 of course, probably top 5, but no where near Jordan. Anyone who compares the two is batshit insane.

 

[theignoramus]

Kobe wouldnt have skulked on the bench like Lebron. He wouldve jacked up a shot every trip down the floor, but at least he wouldve gone down with a scowl and a fuck you, not a whimper on the bench.

 

[Dali]

The Heat were outclassed plain and simple. The Spurs just had a superior team top to bottom. Not really LeBron's fault.

 

[yogloo]

Basketball is a team game.

 

[RS4-]

Making it to the finals in the East is chump change.

 

[KingKong]

Kobe wouldnt have skulked on the bench like Lebron. He wouldve jacked up a shot every trip down the floor, but at least he wouldve gone down with a scowl and a fuck you, not a whimper on the bench.

With a classic 6/24 performance

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Kobe wouldnt have skulked on the bench like Lebron. He wouldve jacked up a shot every trip down the floor, but at least he wouldve gone down with a scowl and a fuck you, not a whimper on the bench.

Like he did that one time against Phoenix?